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Title: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on August 28, 2016, 18:06
Pokemon is full of stuff that don't make sense. Can we list them all? Only 1-3 things please!

1) Scyther has wings, but can't learn fly.
2) doduo and dodrio don't have wings, but can learn fly.
3) why can't Latias and latios breed?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Petzbreeder on August 28, 2016, 18:14
3) why can't Latias and latios breed?

One word - Incest!
Though saying that, Nidoking and Nidoqueen can't breed either, and they aren't all related to each other.

There are many mysteries surrounding the Pokemon world. For example, all Nurse Joys look and sound exactly the same, all Officer Jennys too. Are they all clones?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on August 28, 2016, 18:17
6) Nidorina and nidorino can't breed!
7) why bother waking up a Snorlax, when you can just throw a pokeball?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Ya-Yah on August 28, 2016, 20:55
Guys, nidorina and nidoqueen can't breed, for some reason nidoran f loses the ability as it matures.

8) Why are there so many Ditto? They can't breed with each other.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on August 28, 2016, 21:06
Guys, nidorina and nidoqueen can't breed
At first, I thought you meant Nidorina and nidoqueen can't breed together! Lmfao

9) Where's Kangaskhan male?
10) why does Kangaskhan have a baby in it's pouch when it comes out of an egg?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: SirBlaziken on August 28, 2016, 21:38
One word - Incest!

They're also legends. once again, thanks phione and manaphy for screwing that rule up

10) why does Kangaskhan have a baby in it's pouch when it comes out of an egg?

Teen mothers/fathers. That's why


11. HM moves such as Rock Smash and Fly can be used while the pokemon is fainted
12. Yanmega can't learn Fly
13. Xerneas can't learn Earth Power
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Shaymin on August 28, 2016, 23:30
Pokemon is full of stuff that don't make sense. Can we list them all? Only 1-3 things please!

1) Scyther has wings, but can't learn fly.
2) doduo and dodrio don't have wings, but can learn fly.
3) why can't Latias and latios breed?
1) maybe it doesn't want to fly
2) it flies like tails from sonic
3) they're legendaries. manaphy doesn't count as an exception to that rule as it doesn't produce more manaphys
6) Nidorina and nidorino can't breed!
7) why bother waking up a Snorlax, when you can just throw a pokeball?
6) maybe they don't want to
7) cause that's rude
Guys, nidorina and nidoqueen can't breed, for some reason nidoran f loses the ability as it matures.

8) Why are there so many Ditto? They can't breed with each other.
8) ditto are castoffs from the mew experiment
At first, I thought you meant Nidorina and nidoqueen can't breed together! Lmfao

9) Where's Kangaskhan male?
10) why does Kangaskhan have a baby in it's pouch when it comes out of an egg?
9) he's hiding cause he's shy
10) because kanghaskan was made before eggs were a thing
They're also legends. once again, thanks phione and manaphy for screwing that rule up

Teen mothers/fathers. That's why


11. HM moves such as Rock Smash and Fly can be used while the pokemon is fainted
12. Yanmega can't learn Fly
13. Xerneas can't learn Earth Power
11) because they love you
12) it doesn't wanna
13) it's a deer why should it make the earth move
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on August 29, 2016, 10:51
14) Why does Heatran even have genders?

15.) Why can't Inkay and Malamar learn Octozooka? If you read the in-game description for the move you'll see it says that ink is being shot. Well Inkay and Malamar are based on squids and squids can produce ink.

16.) If breeding a Manahy produces Phione eggs then where did the Manaphy egg come from?

17.) In GSC you find Exeggcute and in HGSS you find Cherubi in trees. How did they get up in the trees? They can't climb.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Shaymin on August 29, 2016, 12:26
14) Why does Heatran even have genders?

15.) Why can't Inkay and Malamar learn Octozooka? If you read the in-game description for the move you'll see it says that ink is being shot. Well Inkay and Malamar are based on squids and squids can produce ink.

16.) If breeding a Manahy produces Phione eggs then where did the Manaphy egg come from?

17.) In GSC you find Exeggcute and in HGSS you find Cherubi in trees. How did they get up in the trees? They can't climb.
14) because they want genders
15) they're squids not octopi. it's called octozooka for a reason
16) don't think too hard about it
17) how do you know
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Ya-Yah on August 29, 2016, 18:31
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16.) If breeding a Manahy produces Phione eggs then where did the Manaphy egg come from?

I'm pretty sure there was an explanation along the lines of the climate/temperature on land makes Manaphy produce Phione eggs instead of Manaphy ones.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: MonsterMon64 on August 29, 2016, 19:21
18) Drowzee and Hypno eat dreams for breakfast, so why come they still need TMs or tutors just to learn the move Dream Eater? (inb5 eating for leisure vs eating for attack-- Sandshrew and Sandslash didn't have to wait long to learn Rollout)

Slightly related: Sometimes I think we forget these things are MONSTERS and thus run on their own system of logic (at least, it's the best explanation I can think of). It's why we can have Magcargo have an impossibly high internal temperature and not decimate life on Earth, or why Wailord only weighs around 800 lbs. while being that huge without also being made of styrofoam. My interest in these factoids lies not in their credibilty when compared to real-world logic, mainly just the "cool factor". Though I do admit it makes me wonder what'd make such things possible, if not plausible, in our own world.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on August 30, 2016, 02:08
15) they're squids not octopi. it's called octozooka for a reason

Horsea and its evolutions get Octozooka and they're based on sea horses so you statement is pretty much invalid. Squids do produce ink and Inkay and Malamar can breed with Octillery.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on August 30, 2016, 17:26
19) Zangoose has claws, but can't learn cut
20) breloom can learn cut, but has short arms. How does it reach the tree to cut it?
21) how can anyone stand next to Magcargo without burning?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on August 31, 2016, 00:36
20.) Breloom's Dex entries say that it can stretch its arms
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The Hooded Trainer on August 31, 2016, 01:31
Slightly related: Sometimes I think we forget these things are MONSTERS and thus run on their own system of logic (at least, it's the best explanation I can think of). It's why we can have Magcargo have an impossibly high internal temperature and not decimate life on Earth, or why Wailord only weighs around 800 lbs. while being that huge without also being made of styrofoam. My interest in these factoids lies not in their credibilty when compared to real-world logic, mainly just the "cool factor". Though I do admit it makes me wonder what'd make such things possible, if not plausible, in our own world.

Or rather, as has been stated before in a webcomic i read somewhere, the only reason the dex entries make no sense is because the professors hired a bunch of hyperactive kids instead of professional researchers.

23) Hawlucha can learn fly (and can therefore carry a ten year old across the country), despite only being able to glide and not being able to participate in sky battles.

24) The gothitelle line in general. And most of gen 5, actually.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on August 31, 2016, 07:31
25.) In the second movie it was never explained why there were Ekans in the water. They are regular Ekans too.

26.) Skitty and Wailord. Enough said.

27.) What did the original Pokemon that split into Reshiram and Zelrom look like complete?

28.) What was the purpose of the Luminose Ghost Girl?

29.) Where did rest of the Seven Sages who weren't seen in BW2 go since it is pretty vlear that they were released from police captivity?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The Hooded Trainer on August 31, 2016, 09:47
30) N made a lot of really good points about the treatment of pokemon, but everyone forgot about them when his dad turned out to be evil.

31) Lysandres plan was to make the world a better place by killing everyone but team flare, which would really just ensure the world would be full of greedy, money-loving a-holes.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on August 31, 2016, 10:56
32.) If N was found living alone in the forest as a child after being driven out from his hometown and lived with a Zorua, where did the Zorua come from since there are no Wild Zorua in Unova? And where did N come from originally?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on September 03, 2016, 13:37
33) skarmory is a flying type and isn't weak to Rock or ice?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The Hooded Trainer on September 03, 2016, 13:58
^Because its also a steel type and steel resists freaking everything.

Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on September 03, 2016, 15:08
But isn't Steel immune to electric?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: the bread dragon on September 03, 2016, 15:57
no its not

type chart (http://wpmedia.o.canada.com/2013/10/screen-shot-2013-10-18-at-2-38-04-pm.png)

Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on September 03, 2016, 23:27
34.) Why isn't the Flabébé line part Grass?

35.) Why isn't the Chansey line Fairy or at least part Fairy? They have every right to be considering Chansey is said to bring good luck and Blissey brings happiness which are two things fairies are well known to do. I'm not considering them to be part Fairy because of the Egg Group they're in since Pikachu is also in the Fairy group and isn't part Fairy. The entire line even looks like Fairy Pokemon and ones you'd think would be Fairy types.

36.) How exactly do you use a TM and HM if they are shaped liked discs? It has never been fully explained and the Teachy TV segment makes it more confusing. I know the manga showed a Pokemon being taught a TM move but it doesn't match up with how the in Bag icon depicts them.

37.) Whatever happened to Todd/Snap? As a photographer he could have been used in future series for major events such as the Wallace Cup or Pokemon World Tournament.

38.) On that note, what ever became of Harrison, Tobias, Paul, and Trip? You'd think Ash would encounter one of them again at least once.

39.) Why isn't there a sequel to Pokemon Snap? They could put it on the 3DS and use augmented reality like Go and have you take actual pictures of Pokemon. There would be interest in the game.

40.) Why doesn't Absol learn Psychic? It seems like a move it could learn.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The Hooded Trainer on September 04, 2016, 01:12
41) Whose idea was it to remove brock from the anime and why werent they immediately fired?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on September 04, 2016, 11:37
42.) Why was AZ's Floette programmed into XY of it will never be released now that Sun and Moon are coming out?

43.) Why is it that Water and Electric attacks do neutral damage to Steel types? Water makes certain metals oxide which weakens them and metal also conducts electricity.

44.) Why the heck did it take GF twenty years to give us a Fire/Poison type???? The Dex entries of many Fire Pokemon mentioned toxins and other Poison attacks, Fire Pokemon could learn Smog, and many Poidon Pokemon could learn Fire attacks like Flamethrower and Fire Blast.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Ya-Yah on February 08, 2017, 14:57
Why is Toucannon not part fire type? Every reference to it is about its beak heating up. Yet it's normal/flying. :|
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on February 11, 2017, 10:56
46) Why can't you throw pokeballs at fainted pokemon?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Petzbreeder on March 30, 2017, 17:11
10) why does Kangaskhan have a baby in it's pouch when it comes out of an egg?

When the egg hatches, it makes you wonder if Kangaskhan's baby is holding a baby holding a baby holding a baby holding a...... I'm sure you get it already!
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: lets all go out for some frosty chocolate milkshakes on March 30, 2017, 19:24
46 (47? im dumb sry) ) why isn't steel type super effective against grass.

42.) Why was AZ's Floette programmed into XY of it will never be released now that Sun and Moon are coming out?

small hot gossip: az's floette is in the sun/moon data too (but cosplay pikachu ain't cos no-one cares about pikachu lmao)

hot prediction on the ground is that they're going to do a black2/white2 and because so much of kalos lore was unfinished (especially my love zygarde) the next pokemon games are likely to be x/y sequels

gonna have to wait for my sinnoh remakes until gen 8 cos game freak wanna follow rby/rse/frlg/diaper/hgss/bwb2w2 etc etc tradition SIGHS LOUDLY

31) Lysandres plan was to make the world a better place by killing everyone but team flare, which would really just ensure the world would be full of greedy, money-loving a-holes.

he was probably sick of everyone in kalos begging him for tips all the time (playin Neo X and goddamn i forgot how annoying that was, some guy starts open mic nighting at you and you're like oh boy its gonna say 'give him a tip?' and im gonna be like 'no')

honestly if he just killed the owner of parfum palace maybe that'd do cos i forgot how much i hated him as well. "im so rich my froufrou ran away of intense ennui please help me enslave it in a life of gilded truffles"
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: SaRo|Rapidash on March 31, 2017, 14:45
48) Carrying on from above, Steel in general is dumb type advantage wise lmao;

Sure, fire melts steel if it's hot enough, but it also melts like everything by it gets to that heat (okay not everything, but it'd definitely like evaporate water??). Plus fighting makes no sense - like if you're strong enough to break steel you should probably be breaking plants? If Fire is justified by the heat conduction reasoning, then surely electric should be SE as steel conducts electricity? Like should either be weak to both or neither, I vote both for balance reasons. Plus why does Steel resist Ice - Steel becomes much more fragile when exposed to cool temperatures, and surely given water rusts steel, steel should be weak to Water?

I guess Steel should be like:
Weakness: Water / Electric / Ice / Fire (/ Ground? I mean I get they're going for Earthquake > Steel beams in buildings but that's questionable?)
Resists: Grass / Psychic (Or maybe should be weak to because spoons?)/ Fairy / Steel / Normal / Rock (/ Fighting to show brute force can't break steel, or maybe neutral?)
Super-Effective Against: Grass / Rock / Fairy / Ice
NFE Against: Water / Electric / Fire / Steel

If Psychic were moved to weakness, would then be 5 weaknesses, 5/6 resists, 4 SE and 4 NFE which is pretty balanced and /actually makes some sense/.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: SirBlaziken on March 31, 2017, 14:54
^I think they meant for Steel to be a defensive type in general. The fighting ig I could see they meant metal overall and you can dent some metals by punching them hard enough. However, actual steel, you're not punching through.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on April 01, 2017, 12:44
49) Almost wrote that as a word! Zangoose and Vigoroth look similar (espcially with those claws) Why? And to make it worse, they were in the same gen as each other!
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: the bread dragon on April 05, 2017, 02:36
cvfwfjiugh
I agree wholeheartedly
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on May 18, 2017, 13:34
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/AAaDf.png)
Is that Latias?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on May 18, 2017, 14:34
I've always wondered why all Poison attacks fail to do damage to Steel Pokémon. Acid should be one of those rare moves that can do damage to any type of Pokémon regardless of resistance and immunity. You can do some serious damage to steel and other metals if you toss certain acids onto them.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Barry B. Benson on May 18, 2017, 21:14
Palkia is the ruler of space, but it can't fly.

Growlithe can't use Growl.

And Kecleon can't use Camoflauge.

Wooper can Ice Punch with no hands.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on May 19, 2017, 01:03
Palkia is the ruler of space, but it can't fly.

Growlithe can't use Growl.

And Kecleon can't use Camoflauge.

Wooper can Ice Punch with no hands.

Keckleon CAN use Camouflage since Gen 6.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Barry B. Benson on May 24, 2017, 02:28
Haven't used Kecleon since RSE, thx for pointing that out
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Petzbreeder on May 24, 2017, 09:03
Growlithe can't use Growl.

Strange, considering It's name is Growlithe!

Stranger still, it can use Roar on a Kyogre or Palkia and make it run away, despite the type disadvantage.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: lets all go out for some frosty chocolate milkshakes on May 24, 2017, 12:26
speaking of growlithe, im sure someone else has said this but why is arcanine a Legendary when it clearly isn't

its like rly early on in the Frieza arc in DBZ when vegeta was all "guess what. im a super saiyan." to frieza and his hair was still black as anything and its like. er. ok we dont know what a super saiyan is yet. but. and then when whe actually see a super saiyan its like ok vegeta why were you lying about it. vegeta finally actually goes ssj after he stares at a picture of KAKKAROT for long enough or w/e but still,

arcanine isn't a super saiyan legendary so why is it lying. it might be an essential part of the "oh this again. sigh." AFK team, but it aint no legendary!!!
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on May 24, 2017, 13:57
Strange, considering It's name is Growlithe!

Stranger still, it can use Roar on a Kyogre or Palkia and make it run away, despite the type disadvantage.
I'm so making that into a video!

Trainer: I challenge you!
Kyogre (voice clip from Alladin Return Of Jafar): You! You're a fool to challenge me! I am all powerful!
Trainer: Growlithe! Use roar!
(Growlithe roars and Kyogre runs away)
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: Barry B. Benson on May 25, 2017, 21:05
Strange, considering It's name is Growlithe!

Stranger still, it can use Roar on a Kyogre or Palkia and make it run away, despite the type disadvantage.

That's one deadly Kyogre. And I can't run away because I only have a weak Growlithe.
It only knows Roar. So go, Growlithe, use Roar like a wuss.

(Growlithe roars like a wuss)
(Kyogre cries and flees)

THANK YOU JESUS

not to copy The name masters work in any way
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on May 25, 2017, 21:24
^Copyright and Trademark infringement detected!

Kangaskhan female + Kangaskhan female = another Kangaskhan female?
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: togetick on May 26, 2017, 22:07
There are many mysteries surrounding the Pokemon world. For example, all Nurse Joys look and sound exactly the same, all Officer Jennys too. Are they all clones?

Nurse Joy isn't their first name, but rather their surname. They are all similar-looking relatives. However, Nurse Joy is not to be confused with the Pokemon Center Nurses, characters in the games that Nurse Joy are based off of, just like the Ash's travelling companions have game counterparts. In Pokemon Origins, which unlike the main series, is based around the Gen I games' events, and all the the Pokemon Center Nurses are different.
Title: Re: Things in pokemon that don't make sense!
Post by: The name master on June 05, 2017, 16:43
Strange, considering It's name is Growlithe!

Stranger still, it can use Roar on a Kyogre or Palkia and make it run away, despite the type disadvantage.
I'm so making that into a video!
I actually did it! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKq6op4ldD8) Any comments? At least comment on the new intro!