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General Pokémon Discussion / Re: Terrible Pokemon ideas

« on: June 24, 2013, 23:52 »

I've always found it kind of annoying when people say "STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT GEN V, GEN I ALSO HAD UNORIGINAL POKEMON, LOOK THERE WAS A PILE OF TRASH BACK THEN TOO". First of all, a pile of trash isn't a bad idea, I don't think simplistic == bad. Second of all, if Muk is such a bad idea, then how does that excuse Garbador? Surely you're undermining your own argument because you're telling people to stop complaining about Pokemon which are copies of 'badly designed' Pokemon, doesn't that make them even worse?

My only problem with Gen V was that they totally copied the Gen I design formula, I know it was meant to be a reboot but it still felt cheap and like a repeated experience.

Anyway, as for terrible Pokemon ideas I'd have to admit that Exeggcute is just well...eggs with eyes. I'm not sure if it's a terrible idea but it wasn't until a few generations on that I realized how out of place it seems. I think the Vanilluxe line looks awful and I'll never like the idea behind it, I've had people tell me it was icicles but Ken Sugimori said in an interview that James Turner intended for it to be a double scoop ice cream, I think that's a sloppy idea and not even cleverly executed.

I do agree on Lickililly too but I've always managed to avoid it so it doesn't really bother me. Pineco is a favorite of mine and Illumise...I've never had a problem with but it's never been a favorite.

Baby Pokemon are fine, I think they at least provide some solid background for the Pokemon we know, they might be useless but they serve as a reminder that not every Pokemon is born strong, it'd be too boring if that were the case.

Stunfisk I really dislike, though it's not because of it's design...it's that smarmy face laughing at me while I EV train HP, constantly getting paralyzed and missing attacks due to Muddy Water.

I never said I was excusing garbodor, he still is terrible and I probably hate him more then muk. And really? I don't see many people saying that generation one had lazy and bad pokemon designs. I agree with you with exeggucute, I actually completely forgot about him to be completely honest

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X and Y/OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire / Re: Do you want a fairy type?

« on: June 24, 2013, 18:06 »

I think to balance out some of the types, fairy should maybe be good against dark, dragon, and fighting to balance things out a bit. And maybe, poison and steel types can be super effective as poison is only good against grass and steel is only good against rock and ice

& > Fairy > &&

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X and Y/OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire / Re: Favourite Starter?

« on: June 24, 2013, 17:58 »

Yesss you read my mind, I was going to start a topic like this.

General consensus seems to be Froakie and Fennekin as favorites with no love for the grass type. Froakie wins out for me, if it's going to be water/fighting type as speculated then that'll be awesome. I can't wait to see their evos.

I'm surprised by that. I really like Chespin. Would be cool if he evolved into a grass fighting or maybe grass dark.

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General Pokémon Discussion / Terrible Pokemon ideas

« on: June 24, 2013, 14:42 »

Now, I know right away that some person is going to be like, "there are no terrible pokemon, they're all awesome". Well, this is my opinion, so if you don't like it, too bad. Any ways, I see a lot of people saying there were a lot of lazy and bad pokemon designs in the fifth gen, but there were plenty in the older gens as well. I decided to make a list of the top 5 worst pokemon ideas. Again, this is my opinion and some of these pokemon I actually like, but I cant ignore the fact that they were either really lazy, or just have terrible designs.

#5. These three pokemon are just pure lazy. Magneton is just three magnemites stuck together, and dugtrio's the exact same thing. When I thought they couldn't get any lazier, they made klinklank. Not only does it look bad, but it was  so lazily made, they couldn't even bother to even slightly alter the sprite like magneton and dugtrio did. Don't give me any of that "its part of their design crap" either, its completely lazy and theres no excuse for it. I kinda like magneton though, which is the reason this isn't lower.

#4. Baby pokemon. Do I really need to say more? Sure, they have the "cute factor", but still, not only are they completely useless, but the time spent on these abominations could have been spent on cooler pokemon designs. Gen 4 was especially notorious for making these baby pokemon. Although gen 2 did it, their designs were actually half decent for the most part. These baby pokemon are pointless, and they didn't even make them for cool pokemon. Mr mime? Sudowoodo?? (Gen 4 did redeem themselves with some awesome evolutions though like Magmortar, Gliscor, and Magnezone).

#3. Stunfisk. What an absolutely, disgraceful, unbelievable, and horrible pokemon. This pathetic and useless fish was probably one of the worst designs in pokemon history ever! I have no clue what nintendo was thinking when they slammed together this abomination. How stupid is it too that its a fish and it lives in water, oh, but guess what? Its weak to water! It's also probably the derpiest looking pokemon, even more derpy looking then whiscash. This pitiful excuse for a pokemon will never be used, and it will never be loved. Poor old stunfisk will always be stepped on, and will soon be long forgotten as soon as gen 6 arrives. It will never be loved.

#2. Voltorb and Electrode, ...... how.... creative. Seriously, for the people who thought gen 5 had really bad designs, stop being a nostalgic ass and look at the generation that started it all. Voltorb is a pokeball with eyes. Really nintendo? A pokeball with eyes? not only that, but its evolution, Electrode. Electrode is just voltorb, but flipped upside down. Wow. Couldn't I just catch a voltorb, and then flip it. Would I get an electrode? Again, I actually semi-like voltorb and electrode, but still, the pure laziness involved with this creation cannot be excused simply because it was the first generation.

#1. Was there really any surprise about these two? This is another example of where everyone says Garbodor was a terrible idea, it's a pile of trash, which I agree, but there's another as well, Muk. Muk and Garbodor are just terrible ideas, and by far the worse. Muk is nothing more then a pile of swearing removed with eyes and Garbodor is literally a pile of garbage. Their stats match their appearances as well, being near useless. But this isn't about stats, this is about terrible designs. I'm not sure what nintendo was thinking when they thought up  these designs, and not only once did they do this, but twice. Garbodor AND Muk are by far the worst pokemon designs in my opinion. These pokemon belong in the trash can, FOR GOOD!

Well, there's my list. You are welcome to make your own lists or give your opinion on mine. Again, this is all my own opinion and if you don't like it, well, there's not much I can do about it. By the way, this is also my first post, so yeah. Oh, and just a few honourable mentions: