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Title: 120x120 Mega scratch sprites!
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on September 19, 2014, 06:21: With the advent of X/Y came Mega Evolutions, but it also brought about 3D models for every Pokemon. While I love the 3D models, I'm also a big fan of sprite art, so I've begun making Mega Evolutions sprites with a 120x120 pixel limit, which is what they might have used if the series had continued with sprite based art!

Mega Blaziken: (http://orig12.deviantart.net/7e12/f/2016/012/a/6/mega_blaziken_scratch_sprite_by_richardblaziken-d7zp5na.png)

Mega Lucario: (http://orig08.deviantart.net/a873/f/2016/012/b/9/mega_lucario_scratch_sprite_by_richardblaziken-d9noyrc.png)
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Kerou 犠牲 on September 20, 2014, 00:41: Hmm, the fire doesn't really look fire-y enough to me and the lack of outline shading (full black outlines are a personal pet peeve of mine re: spriting) doesn't really bring it out as well as it could be?

The contrasts are great though, the shading makes sense and the lineart (despite the pure black) is great so yeah, it's definitely a good effort =] I prefer the colours on yours to the actual sprite, as well as the pose (which is also another good thing, it looks very authentic and ready for battle without looking too obvious). I think it's right arm (the left from the viewer's perspective) looks a little funny too, I mean it makes sense biologically (if that's the right word?) but to fit in with the pose I'd maybe adjust it personally. I like the fact yours looks a little more bulky too, again it looks more natural which is great!

All things considered though, it's a very good effort and you should be proud of it =]
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on September 20, 2014, 03:49: Thanks, Alex! I had black outlines on the flames, but it didn't look right. I also didn't shade the flames because fire is all light, so it didn't make sense in my head, but maybe I should? I'll give it a go later and see how different it looks.

The right hand gave me trouble like you wouldn't believe, it has driven me to the brink of insanity. I fully concede that I just can't make it how I want. xD

Seriously though, thanks for the critiques, they're all things I will keep in mind for future projects. I am rather proud of this, given it's my first scratch of this size. Hopefully Sceptile comes out well too! ^_^
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Bulbakip on September 20, 2014, 10:00: I don't really know how this should look but it's really nice and it looks a bit better than the actuall one
And really it's pose is awesome

BTW How do you make those scratches?
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on September 20, 2014, 10:02: Quote from: Bulbakip on September 20, 2014, 10:00
I don't really know how this should look but it's really nice and it looks a bit better than the actuall one
And really it's pose is awesome

BTW How do you make those scratches?

Thank you! A scratch means that it's made from scratch, as in, pixel-by-pixel . I used some artwork as a reference and just sort of... made it! It takes some practice, and I'm hardly an expert, but that's all there is to it. :)
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Kerou 犠牲 on September 20, 2014, 13:26: Quote from: Richard and Blaziken on September 20, 2014, 03:49
Thanks, Alex! I had black outlines on the flames, but it didn't look right. I also didn't shade the flames because fire is all light, so it didn't make sense in my head, but maybe I should? I'll give it a go later and see how different it looks.

I don't think it necessarily needs an outline; I think the problem is that with the original sprite it gets away with that style of fire because it sorta represents it's movement whereas yours is somewhat static so it needs to look more fire-y? I dunno, I always found fire hard too so just play around with the patterns to see whether you can make it look more natural ^^;

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The right hand gave me trouble like you wouldn't believe, it has driven me to the brink of insanity. I fully concede that I just can't make it how I want. xD

oh I know, scratching is a very difficult and long process so I can understand the pain completely xD

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Seriously though, thanks for the critiques, they're all things I will keep in mind for future projects. I am rather proud of this, given it's my first scratch of this size. Hopefully Sceptile comes out well too! ^_^

You should be, overall it's great! I know I wouldn't be able to scratch anything that good right now =P
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: E.C.A.M.B.S. on September 21, 2014, 07:02: Not bad really, but something's off with Blaziken's snout. I thought Blaziken's nose area was more like a beak, not like a snout that protrudes from his face. The Blaziken reminds me a bit of Suicune actually. That just seems a little off to me, but other than that it's pretty cool and a lot better than what I could do

Can't wait to see Sceptile
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on September 21, 2014, 07:19: Huh... you're totally right! I didn't notice, but it was jutting out too much! Thank you, I've made an edit that I feel works better than before! ^_^
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: E.C.A.M.B.S. on September 21, 2014, 07:22: Huh. Well that sure was fast

edit: I just noticed that you could draw Blaziken's pupil in too. That could also make it even better
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on September 21, 2014, 07:30: I actually had a version that had a pupil, but it didn't look right at all. The sprite is too small for one, unfortunately. ^^;
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Neotenens on November 16, 2014, 01:25: That looks awesome! I can't do scratches at all. I always have to edit and cut older sprites, like I did with my profile.
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Sizacu on December 06, 2014, 16:05: It's a bit of a long time since the last post, but I was wondering if this might benefit your current and future scratches: the body has a bit of pillow shading going on, which looks odd. The tuft of feathers in the lower half also has the pillow shading effect going on, which blurs it out. imo, you shouldn't use any shades in that area and maybe instead make the outline a little lighter to denote shading there.
There's also the hair... things (?) on our left behind Blaziken's head which doesn't follow the light source, which I believe is from the top left corner. If that were the case, you should actually reverse the shading so that the lighter area is in the top left and the darker closer to the head. This also applies to an extent the right hair piece, but it isn't as noticeable I think.
Following Kerou's advice, I think the right arm looks off because it's placed too low. If you unbend that arm, it'll turn out longer than the left.

So what I think you just need to be careful about is light and being wary of outlines, as all black would make the sprites look like they were just stuck on to the background. Everything else looks fine so far, and I'm particularly impressed with how you sprited Blaziken's chest feathers!
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on December 07, 2014, 03:25: Thanks for the advice, Sizacu! I haven't had much free time to sprite and I need to buy a new mouse so I can actually do that. Once I get that though, I will try to employ some of these changes and see how it comes out!
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Sizacu on December 21, 2014, 12:16: Ah, okay & you're welcome. I'll be looking forward to see what else you can make once you get a new mouse c: Good luck!
Title: Re: Mega Blaziken scratch!
Post by: Gusparce on January 07, 2015, 02:39: This is amazing! I love the pose and the facial expression. I don't have much advice to give you, as I haven't sprited myself in ages, but keep up the awesome work! ^.^
Title: Re: 120x120 Mega scratch sprites!
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on January 29, 2016, 14:59: Update! This topic is now an art dump for all Mega Evolution sprites I will be doing in this style. Added to the collection - Mega Lucario!

(http://orig08.deviantart.net/a873/f/2016/012/b/9/mega_lucario_scratch_sprite_by_richardblaziken-d9noyrc.png)

After redoing my Mega Blaziken scratch sprite (in the first post!), I was struck with an urge to continue making scratch sprites. This time I chose Mega Lucario. This sprite took a few weeks to go from start to finish, and I'm very proud of the end result.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: 120x120 Mega scratch sprites!
Post by: Enigma on January 30, 2016, 18:35: They're awesome dude. They look proper professional, like they're from a spin off game - are you secretly an artist for Pokemon Go..? =P

Love the Mega-ken. Looks proper determined. 8]
Title: Re: 120x120 Mega scratch sprites!
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on January 31, 2016, 02:11: Thanks, Tim! Didn't know you were around! I'm working on a third now, should be done relatively soon. I appreciate the kind comments. :)
Title: Re: 120x120 Mega scratch sprites!
Post by: Enigma on January 31, 2016, 11:01: Eh, I'm back to look into this Kanto competition in feb. Cracking out the macho brace, getting back into training.

I was always reassured of the small size of sprites when spriting, as it meant you could dodge detail - so it's intimidating to try a 120x120. You've done it awesomely. I'd love to see a Salamence join the roster!