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Pokémon Games => Team Building => Topic started by: Petzbreeder on March 27, 2016, 17:31
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I can't remember who it was, but someone else on this forum came up with this idea the other day. I've slightly expanded on it.
This is for when Sun/Moon are released.
Pokemon: Machamp
Ability: No Guard
Moves: Fissure (must have 6 PP)
'Nuff said!
Everyone should have a flying type on their team at all times to counter it, just in case one shows up in a competitive battle.
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That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard. NEXT!
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I can't remember who it was, but someone else on this forum came up with this idea the other day. I've slightly expanded on it.
This is for when Sun/Moon are released.
Pokemon: Machamp
Ability: No Guard
Moves: Fissure (must have 6 PP)
'Nuff said!
Everyone should have a flying type on their team at all times to counter it, just in case one shows up in a competitive battle.
I'm a bit confused... could you explain what this is about?
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Basically, No Guard is an ability which makes all moves hit with perfect accuracy.
Combine that with a one-hit KO move like Fissure and you can't lose!
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That Machamp needs speed and bulk to deal with Fairy types. Also Pressure Wailord with its marginally better base 60 speed outlasting 6 PP Fissure using Protect and Substitute. Then again Wailord doesn't usually get speed EV's, so you might be in luck there.
Okay then maybe Dugtrio with Arena Trap and Protect + Substitute could do something about Machamp. Or Mega Gengar can use Destiny Bond anticipating Fissure/Knock Off. I know little about competitive play, I'm just playing devil's advocate. Anyway smogon might just go ahead and ban Machamp if a single Pokémon manipulates every team to have a flying type at all times
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I have a way to stop it short here: OHKO moves are banned in competitive play.
Also if you're of lower lever you're out of luck.
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I have a way to stop it short here: OHKO moves are banned in competitive play.
Oh, that's right! Oh well, it's still fun to imagine Fissure Machamp wrecking everything if that weren't the case.
I guess Machamp can still destroy almost everything in the ingame or VGC or battles that don't follow smogon rules.
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I did a little experiment with my Diamond version since I have many action replay codes for it that I could use, and it seems that a No Guard Machop with Fissure can hit every time, unless I'm fighting a flying type or a Pokemon of a higher level.
Some people have said on other sites that No Guard doesn't work with one-hit KO moves, I've proved them wrong.
I'm going to slaughter the entirety of Sun/Moon when it comes out!
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You're still an idiot. do you realize how many people have a flying type on their teams anyway just for fly? ANYBODY can counter that.
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calm down let him have his fun, gimmicks like no guard machop are pretty cool for ingame
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gimmicks like no guard machop are pretty cool for ingame
I like using gimmick moves like Tri-Attack on Fearow too, the status effects the move inflicts can be useful.
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I Know something that'll stop you! Eelektross. it has levitate. and acrobatics
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Since noone has mentioned it, I will explain how to get the move. Gen 1 games for Virtual Console are compatible with Pokémon Bank, so we can use the Fissure TM from those games. We can't use Bank with Sun/Moon yet though, so the move is still not legal.
Getting good IVs may be a problem as well if you're using the real games and not a simulator, since Gen 1 does not have breeding. Glitches have remained intact though apparently, so it might be possible to get good IVs through glitching.