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Pokémon Games => X and Y/OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire => Topic started by: Lord Raven on January 10, 2013, 20:42
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posting this elsewhere but what type do you think these new critters will be
calling it now!!!
Xerneas is Psychic/??? I really want to say Dragon
Yveltal is Psychic/Flying
Chespin's line will be Grass/Electric (some people say Grass/Dark)
Fennekin's line will be Fire/Ground or Fire/Psychic
Froakie will be Water/Fighting or Water/Ice
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The grass thing looks like it might be grass/ground or grass/fighting or something like that.
The fire one is giving me fire/psychic vibes.
Froakie's back has this fluffy stuff on it... maybe water/flying? water/fighting would be cool.
The legendaries look psychic type or dark type. Something all mystical and stuff.
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The fire one is giving me fire/psychic vibes.
I'd like that! Beats the usual fire/fighting stuff we've had since gen 3 although I have this feeling it's just gonna be plain fire.
Which would be okay I guess but..
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I'm all for Water/Fighting type for the starter. The Firefighter puns are getting old.
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Predicting Grass/Dark,Fire/Psychic, Water/Fighting starters
Xerneas Psychic/Ground
Yveltal Dark/Flying
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I think it's grass/fighting, fire/psychic and water/dark. To me Froakie looks like he's using faint attack. That and a reversed type advantage circle seems like a really interesting idea.
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Chespin-Grass/Ground
Fennekin-Fire
Froakie-Water/Flying (Frogs like to bounce right :U)
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Xerneas Psychic/Ground
Yveltal Dark/Flying
lol that'll be the most one sided legendary matchup ever
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According to the trailer, look slike Fennelkin will end up being fire/psychic. Which means if we're going by the typing It would probably: be
Fire/Psychic
Grass/Dark
Water/Fighting
(Be aware that some fighting types can easily use faint attack.)
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^ Even if it is psychic doesn't necessary or even probably mean GameFreak are going to add a 'secondary type tringle'.
Couldn't that frog turn out to be Water/Poison..? Though I'd love Water Fighting.
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Water/Fighting froggy would make Poliwrath feel sad.
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I wouldn't read too much into the moves that've been used by the Pokémon themselves, look at Sharpedo and Duskull using moves that arguably haven't even been released (or can't learn), I'd look far closer at the actual design of the Pokémon themselves. Look no further than Glalie anyway, learns literally any Dark move you'd want it to do so, and yet, pure Ice type. Without Levitate.
Chespin looks like another Grass/Ground line to me, just the colouring of him. Fennekin I'm undecided on, I love her design but.. I can't see them making a Fire/Psychic type out of her. Just doesn't feel like something Gamefreak would do. Froakie looks like Water/Ground too.. actually.. I'm not that fond of Froakie actually so I'm not too fussed what he turns out to be..
Xerneas looks like a Steel/Psychic type to me, whilst I don't actually think Yveltal will have the Flying type, just a gut feeling but I think it'll be Fire/Psychic actually, or even.. even Fire/Dragon, possibly with Levitate. Just something about it. Yveltal is easily my most favourite thing released since I first saw Hydreigon, so.. I'm very interested to see what they do with him.
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I'm all for Water/Fighting type for the starter. The Firefighter puns are getting old.
After reading that only know it's ever occurred to me to think of them in that way. Wow haha.
Water/Fighting would be refreshing.
I hope they mix new types up for a change or even a laugh.
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I think the main theory is that the starter's types were hinted at by the moves they used in the trailer. That would make Chespin Grass/Dark, Fennekin Fire/Psychic, and Froakie Water/Fighting. I think that that would be great because those aren't really common typing. Lots of fans actually complain about so many fire/fighting starters, so maybe they decided to break some trends.
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But the reverse triangle thing sort of irks me in a way...
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The deer thing strongly looks psychic with it's antlers doing that mystic glowing thing which is at times accoistated with psychic Pokemon.. I want to say part steel because of it's colouring, but it seems a bit too slick to be steel type, but even so there are some slick steel type builds. Though it'd be good becaues Psychic/Steel is an excellent type, as anyone who's ever fought/used Metagross knows.
That bird.. it really gives out Groundon type vibes to me, so I'm tempted to say ground/flying, I don't think it'd be fire type as there's nothing obvious fire-y about it besides it colour.
That starters could end up being pure types - that'd be cool, haven't had all pure starters since gsc. I just hope they'll be more competitive this time, the starters of BW were cool, I loved them, but they were a bit disappointing in battles.
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I think the X Pokemon (still haven't learned its name yet lol) looks like a mix between grass/psychic/steel/normal, but we can't have that in a game lol. I'm half expecting grass/psychic, though the grass is only really because it was in a foresty setting and normal is because it's a deer. I think I'm comparing it too much to Deerling/Sawsbuck xD It doesn't really look that steel to me either, but only because of its legs and colour scheme. Steel/Psychic would be nice though o:
I'm not too sure about Yveital, either. the way it glows reminds me of fire, and it's a bird so fire/flying's pretty obvious (based on my thoughts anyways xD). It won't happen, but I can imagine it being part fighting because it can use its wings and tail to smack somebody and turn them into those pin thingies that people use for keeping golf balls still on a golf course xD But yeah, I think it would be part fire. The colour scheme in Pokemon generally show what type they are, so...
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Since I don't have much to say regarding the Legends other then I think it'll be a Ground/Flying war or something, Imma just post my thoughts on the starters, if you don't mind.
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Take a look at this:
http://17f0418678386b4e6860-e4f9fcd924b589d19bf6ccc2802ea9aa.r66.cf1.rackcdn.com/7e1a18ccc0d7978b5cb77c000889ec2daaa2f74f.jpg__576x480_q85.jpg
From left to right, the Pokemon using the moves are Chespin, Froakie, and Fennekin. Let's take a look at Chespin first.
By the color scheme of this move, it appears to be a Dark move. However, if you noticed, it also looks similar to Aerial Ace, as seen on the following:
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/f/f1/Aerial_Ace_IV.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/2/23/Aerial_Ace_BW.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/f/fb/Aerial_Ace.png
Although Aerial Ace is a move commonly used by many types, it DOES have a significant hint toward a Grass/Flying. Again, it may be some sort of Dark move. If anyone can find a Dark move similar to that, do tell.
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Next, let us take a look at Froakie. Whatever move it's using is clearly a physical move. There aren't many flashy effects, so it could possibly be a fighting move. It has blue sparks popping out from the impact and motion-lines. It looks similar to Circle Throw and/or Counter, as you can see here, respectively:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Circle_Throw.png
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Counter.png
It could be electric, since it's rather speedy-looking.
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Lastly, Fennekin. It's using a move coming from it's mouth, and the magenta/purple as well as it's swirling pattern makes it look psychic. Very similar to Psywave, may I add... It's rather self-explanatory.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/2/27/Psywave.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/d7/Psywave_IV.png
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Just my two cents. (Or two Poké.) IT'd be extremely interesting if they were secondary Dark/Fighting/Psychic, as it would add an odd match up.
A Grass/Dark VS a Fire/Psychic VS a Water/Fighting? What do ya'll think?
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Those typings would definitely be interesting, as it'd give each pokemon both a weakness and a resistance to one another.
Legendary typings I'm unsure of at the moment...I'm thinking Xerneas is a grass type, if only because of it's surroundings, although dualtyping is difficult to say. Yveltal is obviously a flying type, although again I couldn't take a guess what dualtype it might be.
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Xerneas - Grass/Ice or Grass/Psychic
Yveltal line - Fighting/Flying
Chespin line - Grass/Dark or Grass/Normal
Fennekin line - Fire/Psychic
Froakie line - Water/Fighting
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A new Bug-type legendary, and a Poison-type legendary. Why didn't I mention that before?
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Xerneas looks like a Psychic type
Yveltal looks like Dark Type
Zweljada looks like a Fighting type
jk but seriously i think yveltal is a pure dark type with levitate or probably dark flying if they don't want to give it levitate.
xerneas looks more of a normal type to me but could be a generic psychic type which leads me to think zweljada is a fighting type. Though xerneas does looks like a steel type but deffo not a grass type
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There's been some talk over a new type, z 'Light' type. I always wondered if Xerneas would be this type. I don't think there are many combinations they have left to make the legendaries interesting otherwise.
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^ Light type? I hope not. But a new type would be interesting. For some reason though I'm inclined to say that it won't happen...
In my opinion:
- Chespin is Grass/Dark. Chipmunks are evil. Reasoning complete. However, the second attack it makes looks suspiciously like shadow claw. Now that would be interesting, a Grass/Ghost starter;
- Froakie... Water/Fighting. It just screams to me, "Hey! I'm that really annoying starter which, although my design has no artistic merit, is the strongest of this region!", and we all know how fighting is the favorite to make starters strong;
- Fennekin is the first starter I've actually liked straight from release since Gen 3. If the moves performed in the trailer are anything to go by then it's Fire/Psychic. Finally, not a FireFighter!;
- Xerneas is an interesting subject... I'm going to say Psychic/Ground. Providing that these creatures really are based off Norse mythology, that is. Didn't Norse superstition assign gemstones with mystical properties? Of course, I may be wrong. It's antlers are littered with gemstones;
- And, last but certainly not least, Yveltal. I'll be really disappointed if it isn't a Dark/Dragon. Although I have no real reason to suggest that type, other than I want it to be. Oh, and the patterning on it's body seems to pulse oddly.
Well, there you go. I'll almost certainly be proven wrong, but hey, I can dream can't I?
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The reasoning behind light type is that 'Dark' type in Japan is actually 'evil type', so it makes sense that there should be a light type.
Also I just can't figure out what else Xernias would be.
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Xerneas, Psychic/Grass. Yveltal, Fighting/Flying. Don't ask me where that came from. :o
There should be a Cosmic type and an Oil type. Don't ask me where that came from.
Light type? And Fighting is the Japanese 'holy' type if Dark is the Japanese 'evil' type.
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Xerneas, Psychic/Grass. Yveltal, Fighting/Flying. Don't ask me where that came from. :o
There should be a Cosmic type and an Oil type. Don't ask me where that came from.
Light type? And Fighting is the Japanese 'holy' type if Dark is the Japanese 'evil' type.
Fighting type is かくとうタイプ (Scuffling type) in Japanese.
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Then we may just need a Light type.
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I can't see this grass type connection with Xerneas. :s
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probably because it looks kind of like a dialga-sawsbuck
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It is a forest-roaming creature? Making a connection with Virizion. In the video Xerneas is in the forest. That's where the Grass type came from. My lord, it does look like the sum of Dialga and Sawsbuck. :nowink: :yeswink:
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I see no connection, as looks can be deceiving. I mean, Gyarados is a Water/Flying-type, not Water/Dragon-type, let alone a Dragon-type.
But in my opinion I think Xerneas is a Grass/Poison-type.
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On the official Pokemon website it now says that the starters are pure types. Still nothing on Xerneas and Yveltal's types.
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^Here's hoping they don't suck as bad as the Unova starters did then. Without DW abilities, Serperior and Emboar suck, and Samurott is garbage either way. I really don't know why they're unwilling to step outside of the norm with starters recently, it has gotten really boring. Hopefully the final evos will have fun, less standardized typing than what we're used to.
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Hopefully the final evos will have fun, less standardized typing than what we're used to.
Yeah, I agree. Hopefully the second moves used in the trailer are hints for second types they gain through evolution.
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The base forms are pure-types from what's been confirmed so far.
EDIT: There's rumors floating around of Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic, Water/Fighting, Yveltal is Fire/??? and Xerneas is Grass/???. From a leak. Google it, I'm too lazy to find the link.
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EDIT: There's rumors floating around of Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic, Water/Fighting, Yveltal is Fire/??? and Xerneas is Grass/???. From a leak. Google it, I'm too lazy to find the link.
Let's weigh in on this....
http://leviathyn.com/games-2/opinion/2013/01/11/pokemon-x-and-y-starters-may-include-psychic-ice-and-dark-types/ (http://leviathyn.com/games-2/opinion/2013/01/11/pokemon-x-and-y-starters-may-include-psychic-ice-and-dark-types/)
Is this reliable? I am really unsure now....
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Chespin: Grass/Rock.
Fennekin: Fire/Psychic or Fire/Dark.
Froakie: Water/Ice.
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I'd love for froakie to be water/ice but an ice frog? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me and would remove it's resistance to fire.
It definitely looks like fennekin will be fire/psychic though, which is cool. I'd be pretty bummed out if it was fire/fighting again. As for chespin...as much as I want to believe Grass/Dark I somehow can't see it happening as it'd potentially lose it's resistance to water.
But then again, if in the last stage it was Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark and Water/Fighting it'd make them all lose their resistance to each other with those moves...which would be pretty interesting.
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most water types can learn ice moves though so i don't think its evolution is an ice type
I think froakie is Water/Flying due to the cloud around its neck, frogs like jumping right? It means that chespin would be rock or electric though and i don't see nintendo doing that.
Water/flying
Grass/Rock
Fire/Fight lol
Fire looses against flying (and water but shhh)
Grass looses against fight
Water looses against rock
so they are all weak to the secondary typing like the dark,psychic and fight circle
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- Froakie... Water/Fighting. It just screams to me, "Hey! I'm that really annoying starter which, although my design has no artistic merit, is the strongest of this region!", and we all know how fighting is the favorite to make starters strong;
I thought the lack of design award went to chespin for basically being emolga, pachirisu, pikachu, and oshawott combined but a grass type.
Still hoping for a Fire/psychic Fennelkin though...
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most water types can learn ice moves though so i don't think its evolution is an ice type
I think froakie is Water/Flying due to the cloud around its neck, frogs like jumping right? It means that chespin would be rock or electric though and i don't see nintendo doing that.
Water/flying
Grass/Rock
Fire/Fight lol
Fire looses against flying (and water but shhh)
Grass looses against fight
Water looses against rock
so they are all weak to the secondary typing like the dark,psychic and fight circle
I think the 'cloud' is supposed to be foam/bubbles/frogspawn kinda stuff.
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I think the game would be interesting with more Bug/Water and Water/Steel types. Covers the major weakness of Fire to the Steel and Bug sides. A metallic lobster would be cool. Also needs a Poison.Fire type since so many Fire Pokemon can learn Poison attacks or even have poisonous attributes mentioned in their Pokedex entries.
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I think this new game will have a Grass/Dark Pokemon for no reason. Maybe they'll call it Vilet, which is Vile + Violet.
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I honestly an Water/Ice starter out of all the choices of types.
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I'd love for froakie to be water/ice but an ice frog? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me and would remove it's resistance to fire.
Empoleon lost its resistance to fire
Torterra lost its resistance to grass and water D:
but yeah looking at it now it does look more like bubbles.
I am surprised it is not a tadpole
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Empoleon lost its resistance to fire
Torterra lost its resistance to grass and water D:
but yeah looking at it now it does look more like bubbles.
I am surprised it is not a tadpole
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Torterra was a tank to begin with but I do get what your saying.
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Froakie looks like Water/Ground too.. actually.. I'm not that fond of Froakie actually so I'm not too fussed what he turns out to be..
I think you're the first person I've seen who hasn't fallen instantly in love with Froakie. I thought it was the out and out most popular starter this gen.
I think the starters are likely gonna be pure typed this gen. I mean, I can't spot any obvious second type hints from the first form. I doubt Grass/Ground for Chespin, despite its colouring. I'm actually tempted to say it'll develop Normal as a second type, if anything.
I heard rumours that Froakie's line would be 'wizard' based, so Water/Psychic?
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I think you're the first person I've seen who hasn't fallen instantly in love with Froakie. I thought it was the out and out most popular starter this gen.
I think the starters are likely gonna be pure typed this gen. I mean, I can't spot any obvious second type hints from the first form. I doubt Grass/Ground for Chespin, despite its colouring. I'm actually tempted to say it'll develop Normal as a second type, if anything.
I heard rumours that Froakie's line would be 'wizard' based, so Water/Psychic?
I heard it was going to be wizard based but Water/Electric type. Neither holds much weight though.
Most people think Fennekin is going to be Fire/Psychic because of some ambiguous move it does and also because it kinda looks like it could be.
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Froak's using Ice Beam.
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Froak's using Ice Beam.
Nah that's water gun. There's no way they'd have a first stage evolution starter learn Ice Beam. We already know Froakie himself is pure water type.
Maybe it'll be ice/water in its 3rd stage but I'm doubtful to be honest. I'm expecting Water/Fighting. It has that kind of jumpy kicky look about it. And I'm happy about that.
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I'm kind of hoping for the reverse triangle rumour to be true so:
Froakie: Water/Fighting
Chespin: Grass/Dark
Fennekin: Fire/Psychic
But I can't say I would complain if they kept the starters pure all the way through their evolution lines.
As for the legendaries I'm hoping for something along the lines of:
Xerneas: Ground/Psychic
Yveltal: Flying/Dark
And, finally, as for Sylveon I have high hopes for it to be Normal.
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That looks like a snowflake. It could pass as a crude water gun but it's almost too jagged to even consider that.
It is too powerful for a first stage starter. However, in before "we don't yet know the moveset for this Pokemon" Sylveon's Trump Card is learned by an Eevee at level 57. It's not actually implying that you will evolve Sylveon at level 57 as most people don't, and because nothing much could be gleaned from it, it might have been put in as a teaser. Ice move could be put in as a teaser.
Froak's colors match that of an ice type. Bubble collar could be a warm wool coat.
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o509/Sheepilitia/froakiebattle2_zps7843ab31.jpg)
Several flakes literally ringing the attack? Or is it just me.
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That just looks like 'splash' shapes rotated.
Froakie himself is Water-type only though. Go check the official website
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(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o509/Sheepilitia/fokres_zps3df79a1e.png)
It looks like "just splash shapes" rotated, but it also looks distinctly like a pattern. Not to mention the aqua colored rings that can be described as energy. And if it were, it could have been featured just to insinuate something.
Whatever with the typeage really, if you're going that way then there's no point in ever speculating a second type at all. Azurill was the same way, as was Piplup.
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If you listen to the trailer it sounds like water gun and sounds like it hits super-effective on pansear which ice beam certainly wouldn't. Also the other starters use fire/grass moves so it would make no sense for froakie to use an ice move.
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I think you're the first person I've seen who hasn't fallen instantly in love with Froakie. I thought it was the out and out most popular starter this gen.
A-hem, I think you're forgetting someone. Froakie is my least favorite too. I mean, another frog?
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A-hem, I think you're forgetting someone. Froakie is my least favorite too. I mean, another frog?
I thought Froakie was all right and pehaps it'll get a Poison type evolution. I think that if it evolved into a poison dart type frog, that'll be cool as it'll be immune to the Poison and Toxic statuses and resistance to other Poison types.
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^Poison would make sense but again, that type has been done to death. Perhaps I should amend my previous post: another frog/toad?
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Poliwag, Tympole and now, Froakie. Please, be more original.
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To be fair, Poison/Water isn't THAT common.
Tentacool/Tentacruel, Qwilfish...and that's it (Tentacruel is actually a good pokemon too. Qwilfish is...okay).
Froakie is a difficult one to make an opinion on to be honest. It mean, it COULD be Ice/Water with those colourings, but there again it could be pure Water typing. Not sure on Water/Fighting so much. Water/Poison is plausible, but there's no real sign of that typing in its appearance.
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I think it's grass/fighting, fire/psychic and water/dark. To me Froakie looks like he's using faint attack. That and a reversed type advantage circle seems like a really interesting idea.
That would be awesome. I'm actually really hoping it will be this now. Awwh, you got me all excited, I was trying not to get excited!!! Seriously though, this would be awesome :) :) :)
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I don't know about you guys but I'm excited to hear about the new eveelution ::)
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That would be awesome. I'm actually really hoping it will be this now. Awwh, you got me all excited, I was trying not to get excited!!! Seriously though, this would be awesome :) :) :)
Although even I am a big fan of that idea, this Mr. XY from 4chan says that it will be a Grass/Flying, Fire/Psychic & Water trio.
But in the trailer, it does look like Chespin is using a Dark-type move and Froakie a Fighting-type. In Fennekin's case though, it's quite clear (for me at least).
I hope this reverse trio is true, cause the idea of you starter being able to beat your rival's, with a STAB move is pretty cool. We should have two rivals like in B/W.
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^ 'Mr.XY' is just an attention seeking, rumor spreading dreamer. I'm sorry, but that's what I think. Actually, I would be inclined to substitute dreamer for something else, but I might get into trouble for that. Those names... They sound like the kind of names I used to invent when I was 7. Houndoomed? Seriously?
As for the idea of the reverse triangle, I am in two minds. The secondary moves shown in the trailer certainly suggest it, but I think that they will have to make it work a little better than it did in Sinnoh. I remember it was rather boring in those games when you fought your rival.
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Snomanitan, Bubbaboom, Gyrove. Sheesh. But some of his rumours seem plausible. Due to which I'm inclined to think there maybe some lucky guesses among the nonsense.
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Plausible, or just in line with common hopes and opinions? Such as the common prevolution for Pinsir and Heracross maybe? No, his only 'plausibility' is in claiming things which would make a sort of sense to be true. Hope is what gives these kinds of people a lever to open the lid of support.
In any case, so far it appears that his 'evidence' of his authenticity (the hera/pinsir prevo) is not going to appear when he said it would. What a terrible shame.
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In any case, so far it appears that his 'evidence' of his authenticity (the hera/pinsir prevo) is not going to appear when he said it would. What a terrible shame.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, you know.
I don't think that there would be much of a point to the Pinsir/Hera prevolution, to be quite honest. Who would choose Heracross over Pinsir? >:D
But really, there's no link between the two.
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Wait, what? You like Pinsir more than Heracross?!
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Heracross is definently better. But you could easily think that there connected somehow
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Well, yeah, they're parallel version exclusives.
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Well well, it is definitely a false rumour. It's the 16th and no Pinsir/Heracross evos!
Water/Dark, Water/Fighting or Water/Poison for Froakie please...
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^Thankfully. Pity that we didn't get any actual information though. Oh well, we will just have to wait another month.
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The guys at Game Freak love to hide stuff until the last minute.
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Poliwag, Tympole and now, Froakie. Please, be more original.
They all have extremely different design, and Poliwag/Tympole have different types too. I guess it's unoriginal lol
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They all have extremely different design, and Poliwag/Tympole have different times too. I guess it's unoriginal lol
Extremely different designs? They're all based on frogs and toads!
We should bring in some more original ideas, like, say, a monkey! (sarcasm)
Anyway, bring in the garbage bag Pokemon!
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All of them are still derived from tadpoles/frogs.
Froakie is kinda similar to the Seismitoad.
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Nope they don't look anything alike... Based on the same thing doesn't mean the design is the same. My point is that the implementation is different.
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We all know the original Fire-Water-Grass trio, but alas, there waits another, the Psychic-Dark-Fighting trio. If the starters were Grass-Dark, Fire-Psychic, and Water-Fighting, then that would take care of each of them by countering each other with their primary AND secondary typings, and the Fire-Fighting issue! ^.^
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water ground
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I really want Chespin to be Grass/Steel like some kind of leaf wolverine that would be awesome :)
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That would mean Chespin would be totally dominated by the fire type Fennekin, and it's steel stab would only do half damage to Froakie...