Topic: The New Eevee May Be A Flying Type

[IceRain]

I speculate that it's going to be a flying type, there's definitely a high possibility of it. I'm about to explain why among some other things in a very very long post.

As of now, I personally believe the two biggest possibilities for Ninfia’s type to be Flying, or New. I would not be surprised if it turned out Normal or Dragon as well but those have a lot of evidence and theories against them. Especially in “Normals” case.

Before I go into what I’m about to get into, let me try to counter some theories. First off, Normal. This one isn’t too far out there however there’s still very little evidence to go off of it. All there is is “It just looks like a Normal type.” and while that indeed is true, when you really break that down. What qualities make it a normal type? It’s pink? So far, I have not heard anything else beyond “It looks like a normal type”. I realize that at this stage going off of looks is the only way to really speculate. But there’s still no basis to it beyond “It just looks like it.” Next is bug. Now, this one I have actually seen more than you’d think. Some people are being silly about it but others seem to legitimately think it might be a bug type. Okay look, first of all, the evidence that it’s name is “Nympheon” and that Nymph’s had something to do with bug er rather. This point is instant rubbish as the name “Nympheon” is unofficial and thus proves squat for anything except that people are gullible. Also, the eyes. People have been saying it’s eyes are insect-like. No, no they are not. They are rounder, and a bit bigger than some of the other eevee’s, however they follow a similar colouring pattern as Leaf, Glace, and Esp. That is to say, a coloured sclera (Sclera is the white part of your eye, in Ninfia’s case it is light blue) and white pupils. Finally, just going off of how Ken and the rest of those guys on the Pokémon development team design Pokémon, I do not think this is how they would design a bug type at all. Even a mammalian one.

Okay, now onwards to this Flying type hypothesis. For starters, consider the following.

    [2/11/2013 8:42:39 PM] Erufuuuun: Ninon is a sheer fabric of silk, rayon, or nylon made in a variety of tight smooth weaves or open lacy patterns and/or open mesh-like appearance. It is described as very delicate or lightweight and is sometimes referred to as “French tergal”. Available in a variety of solid colors and tone-on-tone woven vertical stripes. Some ninon fabrics have embroidered borders. Pronounced “nee-no”. Because the fabric is made with high twist filament yarns, it has a crisp hand. End uses include evening wear and curtains.

My good friend over at Ask-Fennekin brought this up to me yesterday. He pointed out Ninfia’s name may have a possible link to this. There are things to consider in this bit of very detrimental evidence. First off, Ninfia and Ninon both start with “Nin”. When one looks at Ninfia’s full name and compares it to another eeveelution they would find it shares the same ending suffix (The eeveelution in question being Leafeon, who’s Japanese name is Leafia). This show’s the the entire ending suffix “fia” is merley there to link it to the other eeveelutions or at least give it some sort of original sounding name. It does NOT mix in with the meaning of “Nin” at all. Nin and Fia should be treated as two different words here.

Now, moving on to what NINfia’s relation to the french fabric NINon means. I am taking it as huge evidence to it being a flying type. To start, lets verify the authenticity of how true this name meaning is. We can do so by analyzing the facts present in the short description of Ninon. The two things to note about Ninon here are. “It is french” We already know, or at least are on a very strong lead, that the new region is set in france. It is highly suspicious that the name meaning also happens to relate to a certain FRENCH fabric. Next, Ninon is described as “Very lightweight”. Did you guys catch on to the fact that Ninfia is the lightest eeveelution? There’s too many coincidences, and like Commissioner Gordon said to Blake in The Dark Knight Rises “You’re a detective now, son. You’re not allowed to believe in coincidence anymore.”

So, alright, Ninfia’s name comes from a very light french cloth. But what exactly does this prove in it being a flying type? To be honest with you, the direction it points to flying type is still barely and it is still very subjective. However, the point of it is, the cloth is very light, and thus it would flow easily in the wind, Ninfia itself is a very lightweight Pokémon. Perhaps it doesn’t NEED wings to fly. We already know this is true with other Pokémon such as Gyarados (pbbbtth), Shaymin (Do NOT bring up the fact that it’s antler things make it fly because it can be seen using it’s legs to propel through the air), Drifloon/Drifblim (who actually use their weight to fly, much in the same way Ninfia will most likely fly), and the Hoppip line.

Furthermore, the counter argument “It doesn’t look like a flying type cause its colours are not derivative of one” is moot. If one were to look at a list of flying types they would find only very very few Flying types are and furthermore the only pure flying type (which would make Ninfia the second pure flying), Tornadus, does not have any visible light blue on him. The fact that Ninfia has very visible colours of light blue heightens the fact, not to mention. There’s the counter counter argument that if Ninfia were to be all light blue, it would be too similar to Glaceon who is already light blue.

Now here’s just one very last point. This one’s very small, and is the most subjective thing on this whole explanation but I’ll bother you with it anyways since I’ve already taken so much time explaining this stuff. You could take Ninfia’s Bows and Ribbon’s and attribute those also to Kite’s! There placements definetly make them appear to be bows, however, this does not mean they only need to symbolize one thing. They appear to be bows, and I do not dispute this at all. It’s very clear from their placement they are bows. Along with that, their connections to the ribbons also make them sort of appear like a kind of kite as well. It’s just something to consider.

You may want to merge this topic with the "eevee?" topic. I wasn't sure if a post this big was allowed in a non-RP topic.

[sylar]

tl;dr its probably fire/fighting

[Alpha Fenrir]

@Cororon:
I like your points. However, I do not think that it only supports the idea of Ninfia being flying type. A large number of your points also support the idea of a light or cosmic type.

Although I personally dislike the idea of the introduction of these types, so far I am seeing some startling hints towards them. Firstly, it is the lightest eevee-lution, as you pointed out. I'm fairly certain this is self-explanatory as to why it could support either of these types.

Second, if you look at the corocoro image you can see sparkles that look like stars as well as flecks reminiscent of when you look up towards the sun.

Finally, although this is somewhat tenuous evidence, we did see in the initial trailer what appeared to be a Gym where when the walls folded away we saw a space background. The pathways, if I remember correctly, were transparent ribbon-like structures, like the rings of Saturn. 
I agree though that we have too little to go on for a conclusive claim. Oh well, lets just play with our thumbs for another month.

[Beckoner]

I think flying is the best explanation if we look at existing types, but I think it would make more sense if it was a new type.

[XK|X Litwick]

I completely agree. The flying type seems like a good possibility. I would love the idea of introducing another pure flying type.

[lets all go out for some frosty chocolate milkshakes]

tl;dr its probably fire/fighting

john i love you

[Turner]

The 'nymph' idea isn't all rubbish. The Japanese name is ニンフィア (Ninfia) the first part is ニンフ (Ninfu) which is the Japanese phonetic spelling of Nymph. This is the same as Leafeon (Leafia) and Glaceon (Glacia), it's not the 'nin' which is linked to 'fia', it's actually a contraction of 'ninfu' and 'ia'. Just like leafeon is 'leafu' and 'ia'. The 'ia' is what's appended. I also don't think there's any chance they would have gone that far to look into the name.

The only thing that makes me think it might be flying is simply the scarves and colours which remind me of Skyla.

[Spriter]

I personally think that pretty much all of what you said actually hints to it being a Normal type more. It's not the colours, I'm picking at that you said about it being based off of Ninon.

[The biscquiat dragon]

I'm not using any evidence or basis, just speculation.

[IceRain]

The 'nymph' idea isn't all rubbish. The Japanese name is ニンフィア (Ninfia) the first part is ニンフ (Ninfu) which is the Japanese phonetic spelling of Nymph. This is the same as Leafeon (Leafia) and Glaceon (Glacia), it's not the 'nin' which is linked to 'fia', it's actually a contraction of 'ninfu' and 'ia'. Just like leafeon is 'leafu' and 'ia'. The 'ia' is what's appended. I also don't think there's any chance they would have gone that far to look into the name.

The only thing that makes me think it might be flying is simply the scarves and colours which remind me of Skyla.

The "Nymph" idea is complete rubbish. They wouldn't go that far with a name? Do you actually believe that? GameFreaks gone pretty far with some Pokémon names in the past. Cinccino is a combination of Chinchilla and Chino cloth. So that's almost the exact same thing.

"Ninfia" is the lightest eeveelution by weight "Ninon" is a very light fabric. Ninon is french, Gen 6's region is arguably very french in appearance, Ninfia is a Gen 6 Poké. The correlation between the two is so strong I don't see how one could see the other way after realizing that.

Maybe it's supposed to be "Nymph" while at the same time also supposed to relate to "Ninon"

[Turner]

The "Nymph" idea is complete rubbish. They wouldn't go that far with a name? Do you actually believe that? GameFreaks gone pretty far with some Pokémon names in the past. Cinccino is a combination of Chinchilla and Chino cloth. So that's almost the exact same thing.

"Ninfia" is the lightest eeveelution by weight "Ninon" is a very light fabric. Ninon is french, Gen 6's region is arguably very french in appearance, Ninfia is a Gen 6 Poké. The correlation between the two is so strong I don't see how one could see the other way after realizing that.

Maybe it's supposed to be "Nymph" while at the same time also supposed to relate to "Ninon"

So the idea nymph is complete rubbish despite the fact that ニンフ　IS the Japanese word for Nymph?

Cinccino is a combination of Chinchilla and Chino cloth.

[citation needed] PS Bulbapedia's speculation is not an official source.

Japanese names for Pokemon have to be slightly understandable for kids, 'nin' in Japanese is ニン or 人 (person/human being) The fabric Ninon uses the Japanese phonetics 'ni', 'no' and 'n' 二・ノ・ン which means it only has one phonetic character in common with ニンフィア. Maybe if it was ニノンフィア it would make more sense, but it really doesn't.

'Nymph' in Japan is more commonly associated with bugs and a nymph is a type of insect/fairy, people say that the 'bowtie' on Ninfia is actually a butterfly. I'm not sure I believe that either, but it seems a much better idea when you consider that the poster of the new Pikachu & Eevee movie used coloured Japanese characters to indicate the type of each eeveelution (Flareon being an orange 「イ」 character etc.) and what did they use for Ninfia? Its pink butterfly/bow. If it really is a butterfly it would fit in with the other characters representing types as the butterfly represents bug type. Its eyes also look quite bug-like.

When Ninfia was announced most Japanese people on twitter were mentioning 'Nymphs' when discussing the origin of its name. I wouldn't be suprised if we end up with a Nymfeon or Nympheon or something when the english name is announced.

[The biscquiat dragon]

I think this is a bit farfetch'd, but Oh!
I like WMG. Turner's got a fun point. Butterfly bug would be rather neat.

[IceRain]

So the idea nymph is complete rubbish despite the fact that ニンフ　IS the Japanese word for Nymph?

[citation needed] PS Bulbapedia's speculation is not an official source.

Japanese names for Pokemon have to be slightly understandable for kids, 'nin' in Japanese is ニン or 人 (person/human being) The fabric Ninon uses the Japanese phonetics 'ni', 'no' and 'n' 二・ノ・ン which means it only has one phonetic character in common with ニンフィア. Maybe if it was ニノンフィア it would make more sense, but it really doesn't.

'Nymph' in Japan is more commonly associated with bugs and a nymph is a type of insect/fairy, people say that the 'bowtie' on Ninfia is actually a butterfly. I'm not sure I believe that either, but it seems a much better idea when you consider that the poster of the new Pikachu & Eevee movie used coloured Japanese characters to indicate the type of each eeveelution (Flareon being an orange 「イ」 character etc.) and what did they use for Ninfia? Its pink butterfly/bow. If it really is a butterfly it would fit in with the other characters representing types as the butterfly represents bug type. Its eyes also look quite bug-like.

When Ninfia was announced most Japanese people on twitter were mentioning 'Nymphs' when discussing the origin of its name. I wouldn't be suprised if we end up with a Nymfeon or Nympheon or something when the english name is announced.

Okay, so we'll say Nympheon is a understandable and passable name. However, aren't Fairies often associated with flying as well? Fairies can often fly. The bows representing Butterfly wings could count as evidence for flying as much as it would bug.

I have to say, the eyes do not look bug like at all they are round, and slightly bigger, but I think all together if GameFreak were to make a Bug-type eevee evolution it would be a bit more obvious based on it's appearance that it's a bug type. Bug types are very easily distinguishable.

Bulbapedia may not be a credible source but the point it offers is still a very strong one in that Cinccino is a combination of Chinchilla and Chino Cloth. Since Cinccino is a chin chilla and and has a very soft white kinda thingies on it. Chino Cloth, might I add, is cotton, and cotton is the material used on the official Poké Doll of Cinccino's white parts specifically.

[Turner]

Cotton is the material used on every Pokedoll...it's hardly a good argument. Chino isn't really a fabric that looks anything like that. To be honest, the original Japanese names rarely have much thought put into them, I've always thought that the english translations seem to be more intent on making them convoluted contractions when the Japanese is a single word with an arbitrary catchy ending.

I agree that it doesn't seem very bug, but if you look up the Japanese wikipedia disambiguation page for Nymph the first thing it mentions is bugs and if you were to say the word Nymph to Japanese people it would be the first thing they think of.

Every speculation has some kind of drawback IMO.

Ninfia being a 'new type' is plausible but also unlikely at the same time just because nobody is expecting a new type.

Ninfia being flying is plausible because of Skyla, but I can't help but think it looks too pink to be a flying type and that they'd probably redesign it as something else.

Dragon type is plausible based on the colouring and the fact that the screenshot in the corner looks like it's using dragon rage or something but once again I think they'd make it look a lot more dragon-ish if they were to do that.

IMO Bug type has the most amount of evidence in its favour but I can't help but think that it seems pointless to somehow make a 4 legged fox/dog-like Pokemon a bug. Just seems bizzare to me.

Then of course there's the chance it's just normal, but there's so much emphasis on the corocoro page about the mystery of it's type that I don't think they'd hype it up this much for it just end up being normal. They specifically mention Eevee being normal and then Ninfia being a complete mystery type, so it wouldn't make much sense to just make it Normal type.

I'd say fighting is a good possibility too. 

[IceRain]

Dragon makes sense and wouldnt be too surprising but I agree they'd have made it look more Dragony.

Same thing with bug. I'd think if they wanted to make a bug eevee they'd make it more bug like. I mean look at Leafeon. It's pretty leafy. I'll be severley disappointed if it's bug. They would have wasted a lot of cool possibilities

I really think it's odd people think it's going to be a normal type. Not only would they have not hyped it up as much and kept it's type a secret. But isn't eevee supposed to evolve by adapting to it's environment? So how exactly would that work?