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Title: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on March 01, 2015, 20:36
These are just my opinions and suggestions:

Add the following characters- Twin Rova, Mr. Shine and Mr. Bright, Yoshi and Baby/Younger Version Character you choose, Machamp, Clefairy, Zoroark, Goku (non-Super Sayian just to keep things fair), Sora, Riku, Cloud, Sephiroth, Onox, Veran, Frog Suit Luigi, Tanooki Suit Mario, Cat Suit Peach, Fierce Deity Link, Majora's Mask, Yuga, Lolo(lo)/Lala(la) [Adventures of Lolo version], Wart (Super Mario Bros 2 antagonist), King Bob-omb, King Boo, Paper Mario, Deoxys, Dixie Kong, Captain Syrup, Riddley, Jill (Drill Dozer), and Shadow the Hedgehog

Stages: Tetris, Pokemon Pinball RS, Mossdeep City Space Center, Hoenn Safari Zone, Lolo(lo)'s Castle Maze, Mt. Moon, Meteor Falls, Onox's Castle, Veran's Tower, Casino Nights, Clock Town, the Mountain where the Wind Fish Egg is located, Woods of Mystery, Donut Plains, Castle Oblivion

What would you like to see?
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Lord Raven on March 01, 2015, 22:03
Looks like you want FF7 vs Zelda.

Paging CitizenGeek.



Also, DHD.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Del on March 01, 2015, 22:07
I think Duck Hunt Dog was a great addition to the series so I'd like to see him return. Otherwise I don't think I mind what happens with the rest of the roster. Good job Sakurai.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on March 02, 2015, 00:17
I think a Pokemon Pinball RS stage would be fun. The flippers could throw fighters into the air and the Pokeball on the table is gigantic and capable of causing damage. A ring out would be located where losing the ball would be and the Hatched and Wild Pokemon appear randomly and act as the pokemon assists of the stage.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Lord Raven on March 02, 2015, 02:10
But what do you think about duck hunt?

btw, I'll go into more detail if you wish, but the majority of those characters could either be alternate costumes like this:

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EBFsSPqSeMY/maxresdefault.jpg)

Or assist trophies or something.  They're nowhere near the face of certain video games or franchises, or even icons, like what you see in smash right now.  It honestly sounds like something a person who has only played like 3-4 video game series would suggest, because all I see there are Mario, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, and Zelda, and maybe only like one outside of it.  And it doesn't get any better with your stages.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: the bread dragon on March 02, 2015, 02:31
i would like an entire overhaul of the roster. sure, keep a few characters as there are some you can't be without as they're such huge hits, but some really just need to go. this would make it a smaller less interesting game, but maybe it could result in a shorter time between games being made.
overall, i feel duck hunt should be the only character available in the game to use. just my opinion no hate
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: The Macintosh Ninja: SOH CAH TOA on March 02, 2015, 02:57
I'd like to see Simon Belmont make an appearance as either a fighter or an Assist. Castlevania did debut on NES after all. If any other Sonic characters make it into Smash, I'd prefer Tails or Knuckles over Shadow: way less likely to be clones. Maybe Maxwell from Scribblenauts could join the fray. He'd attack kinda like Mr. Game & Watch: pulls random objects out and hits the opponent with them.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on March 02, 2015, 10:00
I'd like to see Simon Belmont make an appearance as either a fighter or an Assist. Castlevania did debut on NES after all. If any other Sonic characters make it into Smash, I'd prefer Tails or Knuckles over Shadow: way less likely to be clones. Maybe Maxwell from Scribblenauts could join the fray. He'd attack kinda like Mr. Game & Watch: pulls random objects out and hits the opponent with them.

I was actually thinking of Simon before. I just couldn't remember his name. Also think the playable characters from River City Ransom would be interesting to see. There are so many other Nintendo characters out there that it is hard to keep track of them all. How about adding Lara Croft, Soda Popinski, Shantae, and maybe Spyro to the mix?
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Lord Raven on March 02, 2015, 11:01
None of those are nintendo mascots and I've never ever heard of a Spyro game on nintendo.  Are you even reading a single thing I'm posting or are you shut off to all contrary opinions?

I'd like to see Simon Belmont make an appearance as either a fighter or an Assist. Castlevania did debut on NES after all. If any other Sonic characters make it into Smash, I'd prefer Tails or Knuckles over Shadow: way less likely to be clones. Maybe Maxwell from Scribblenauts could join the fray. He'd attack kinda like Mr. Game & Watch: pulls random objects out and hits the opponent with them.
Given the average age of Smash gamers, Simon Belmont would be a bit awkward given his bondage gear...  I'd think Soma Cruz would be the most likely CV character since I'm pretty sure the Sorrow games were popular.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on March 02, 2015, 11:47
Spyro has had some games on the GBA and DS systems. Not to mention the Skylanders franchise. And who said that all the Smash Bros had to be Nintendo mascots? Snake was in Brawl and HE isn't a Nintendo mascot. I'm just stating who I think would be interesting to see in the mix here. These are just my opinions. Crash Bandicoot also had one game released on the GBA. Spyro and Crash's GBA games are lesser known to most gamers but they exist.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: The Macintosh Ninja: SOH CAH TOA on March 02, 2015, 16:24
Given the average age of Smash gamers, Simon Belmont would be a bit awkward given his bondage gear...  I'd think Soma Cruz would be the most likely CV character since I'm pretty sure the Sorrow games were popular.
True, though they could also go with Simon's design in the "…of Sorrow" games (brown trench coat, red vest, etc.) or from the "Lords of Shadow" series (fancy red coat, no shirt). The only problem I now realize is that a good number of Simon's signature attacks have some religious themes to them (Holy Water, Grand Cruz). I can see them figuring a way around the Holy Water, but the last one would be tough to do without completely changing it. I wouldn't mind Soma being in it: he could have a "copy" ability like Kirby given his [Soma's] power to absorb demon souls.

Hm…maybe a Monster Hunter character? It'd be hard to implement given the number of weapons/armor in that series. Though I'd like the Final Smash to be a Deviljho appearing and turning everything to hell.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Lord Raven on March 02, 2015, 17:07
Simon wasn't in any of the portable CVs...  Also, Lords of Shadow was PS3-exclusive whereas the portable CVs and CV1-4 were all on the NES or SNES.

Spyro has had some games on the GBA and DS systems. Not to mention the Skylanders franchise. And who said that all the Smash Bros had to be Nintendo mascots? Snake was in Brawl and HE isn't a Nintendo mascot. I'm just stating who I think would be interesting to see in the mix here. These are just my opinions. Crash Bandicoot also had one game released on the GBA. Spyro and Crash's GBA games are lesser known to most gamers but they exist.
Difference is that Snake had some roots on the NES and MGS1 was remade for the Gamecube, and having MGS3DS made much more sense (in retrospect).  Snake is also much more iconic than Spyro and Crash Bandicoot, and part of the reason for his inclusion has to do with the fact that MGS4 was coming out or was already out - Kojima clearly pulled some strings to get some advertisement.

Point is that they had to have some very active involvement with nintendo aside from a couple DS/GBA games that almost nobody has heard of.  The Twin Snakes and the 90s Metal Gear games were definitely well known among gamers.

Granted, Snake is still a bit of a head scratcher, but he makes way more sense than Crash and Spyro.  Snake was also considered more of a guest character than a mascot.  Given that every Skylanders game was on every modern platform, Skylanders isn't going to be a thing either.



By the way, neither is FF7, KH, or Goku.  Goku is primarily an anime character, not a video game character.  Most mainline KH games are on Playstation consoles and in general KH's roots are in Sony (whereas MGS' weren't).  FF7 has never, ever been associated with a Nintendo console.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on March 02, 2015, 18:04
One of Goku's earliest appearances was on the NES. I mostly want him for that reason and also because Bandikai is in charge of Smash Bros.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Lord Raven on March 02, 2015, 19:36
The majority of DBZ games as well as the most popular ones were on the PS2/PS3.  If you ask someone about a DBZ video game, they'll either respond Legacy of Goku or the Budokai series, and not some random NES game that very few people have heard of.

To add onto that, DBZ is primarily a Shonen Anime/Manga series.  There are zero anime characters on the current roster.  Everyone on the roster was a video game first and anime/manga series later.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Rooks on March 02, 2015, 19:44
I think they should bring in a golden labrador called Lucky. Nintendogs.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on March 02, 2015, 20:10
Nintendogs as a fighter would be neat. I could see a lab pup playfully tackling another fighter.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: The Macintosh Ninja: SOH CAH TOA on March 02, 2015, 23:36
Simon wasn't in any of the portable CVs…
Oh, right. That was Julius *thunks self on head*.
Also, Lords of Shadow was PS3-exclusive…
True, though Lords of Shadow: Mirror of Fate was a 3DS game up until the HD release.

Snake is also much more iconic than Spyro and Crash Bandicoot, and part of the reason for his inclusion has to do with the fact that MGS4 was coming out or was already out - Kojima clearly pulled some strings to get some advertisement.
If I recall correctly, Kojima wanted Snake in Melee, but that game was too far into development. Snake got into Brawl because Kojima asked Sakurai to include him. Advertisement, pulling strings, and MGS4 played some role too though.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Dorchadas on March 03, 2015, 20:57
I'd like to see Simon Belmont make an appearance as either a fighter or an Assist.

I'd personally prefer Juste or Alucard, and definitely Maxim as an assist. Maxim was amazing. 0^0 Also Isaac from Golden Sun and Shovel Knight. And Queen Metroid would make a good Master Hand-esque boss.

Also, we could use Shigeru Miyamoto and Reggie Fils-Amie.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: SaRo|Rapidash on March 03, 2015, 21:36
Would kind of like to see Volga in a new one tbh, if only for the perfect final smash oppurtunities xD I mean, it'd be pretty cool to have him basically do his C5 from Hyrule Warriors (turn into a massive dragon thing and dive into the enemies, exploding into flames)

Edit: Also, FD Link would possibly be better as a final smash than a new character, maybe if they added custom Final Smashes like they have for specials that could be one of them.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Rooks on March 03, 2015, 21:43
Professor Layton




that is all
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Mockery for One on March 06, 2015, 00:29
And...

Given that one Kirby baddie (specifically Kirby's Adventure) is already an Assist Trophy in this game, then how about some more Kirby Baddies? Like, k'now, Dark Matter, Marx, DRAWCIA...
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on March 07, 2015, 01:46
I'd actually love to see Marx as a playable character. His Final Smash could be the Black Hole move he uses in his boss battle. K.Rool also needs to be playable. I'd also say Conkers and Banjo-Kazooie if they weren't owned by Microsoft now. I had some cool moves for Banjo and Kazooie too, namely Kazooie popping out of the bag and lifting the bear into the air and then swooping down for a swipe of the paw and a counter attack from behind where if you try to attack Banjo from behind, Kazooie will pop out and peck at you repeatedly for awhile. This would also be long ranged.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: RyleeXylph on March 13, 2015, 16:35
Give Ganondorf a gosh darn sword, and introduce F-Zero's Black Shadow as the new slow/heavy Captain Falcon clone
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: SirBlaziken on March 14, 2015, 19:24
I think Duck Hunt Dog was a great addition to the series so I'd like to see him return.

He is a lot of fun to spam projectiles as, but his only physical b move is an alt move, so that's kind of a shame.

Meanwhile, i'm still waiting on blaziken Chrom as a playable or for Roy to be retooled and return.

Also Custom final smashes would be fun and Ganon getting to use his sword in something other than a custom.

As it turns out, my science teacher used to play competitive smash.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Dorchadas on March 14, 2015, 20:46
He is a lot of fun to spam projectiles as, but his only physical b move is an alt move, so that's kind of a shame.
DHD was never really that good imo. I've taken down experienced players that main DHD with Marth, Ike, and Captain Falcon, all of which lack projectiles.

Meanwhile, i'm still waiting on blaziken Chrom as a playable or for Roy to be retooled and return.
I'd personally prefer Eliwood or Lyn from FE7, but that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Lord Raven on March 14, 2015, 22:21
You guys want the most bland lords.  I'm still waiting on Sigurd.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on March 14, 2015, 23:11
I would like Blaziken in the game but I'm thinking it's be a Lucario clone that shot fireballs instead of Aura Spheres and do we REALLY need another Mega Evolution for a Final Smash? I would prefer Blaziken to start a Final Smash using Burn Blast and then jumping up into the air to use Flare Blitz for the finish. THAT would be so much cooler than Mega Evolution.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Kerou 犠牲 on March 15, 2015, 03:32
Just bring back Roy
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Lord Raven on March 15, 2015, 09:08
no no NO

no more basic ass lords

we need sigurd
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Dorchadas on March 15, 2015, 16:33
Personally, I think we should have a myrmidon or a general or something. Screw the lords.

And Sigurd is meh.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: Lord Raven on March 15, 2015, 20:50
Do you even know who Sigurd is or are you talkin out your ass?  You guys do know he is the single best FE unit in the history of the series right?  On top of that, the Jugdral FEs have had probably one of the best storylines in a nintendo series.

EDIT:  Myrmidons and Generals have been so generic.  I most certainly dont care for someone like Oswin/Wallace, Gilliam, Kellam, Bors/Wendy/Barth, Gatrie/Brom/Meg or on the other hand, Joshua, Rutger/Fir/Karel/Karla/Guy, Lon'qu/Say'ri, Mia/Zihark/Edward/Stefan.  Well, I like Gatrie and Stefan, but I don't care for them in a smash game.
Title: Re: My ideas of what should be done in the next Smash Bros game
Post by: SirBlaziken on March 16, 2015, 00:27
Personally, I think we should have a myrmidon or a general or something. Screw the lords.

Lon'qu anyone?

I would like Blaziken in the game but I'm thinking it's be a Lucario clone that shot fireballs instead of Aura Spheres and do we REALLY need another Mega Evolution for a Final Smash? I would prefer Blaziken to start a Final Smash using Burn Blast and then jumping up into the air to use Flare Blitz for the finish. THAT would be so much cooler than Mega Evolution.

Well, the move is blast burn iirc, and that seems a bit like a palutena final smash, and what about us fanboys people who actually kind of like Blaziken's mega? While I agree we don't need another mega, I wouldn't mind this one. So i'd be cool either way. Plus, do you really think that they would give Blaziken a bunch of aura moves (kinda a no brainer) and an attack boost as damage increases? I don't think so, and its standard special would be something more like blaze kick imo, plus HJK would be something for recovery (and it damages when it hits instead of misses) or maybe sky uppercut (doesn't damage user). Down would be something like WFT, but it doesn't lower damage, but increases attack a little more (SD anyone), and the side could be Speed Boost (like Ike's Quick Draw, but a little faster). That's what i'd make the specials, the jump would be above average, the attack power be high, but the weight be below average (Blaziken is kinda frail in the actual games, so this would help make it more believable).

Also Dick is right, Volga would be awesome to have in Smash.