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Title: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 19, 2014, 23:08
Aww jeez, Maybe it isn't a good idea for me to say this, but I'm going to anyway, but first, I'd like to say this is my opinion, but I'd be glad to hear yours as well. Now, I'm also going to say that although the original R/B/Y were buggy pieces of garbage, they were the very first generation, and the generation redeemed itself in its GBA remake, even if gen 1 had several questionable designs. So, if I'm not going to be choosing Gen 1, which generation will it be? Lets see, Gen 2: added genders, added steel and dark type, several cool pokemon and the ability to go to both johto and kanto. Gen 3: Many awesome new pokemon, added abilities, added weather. Gen 4: cool evolutions for old pokemon boosting their usefulness, several vital battle items, added special/physical moves for each type. Gen 6: Added fairy type, added mega evolutions. And I thi... OH, wait, Gen 5. Now, let me get this straight, I don't hate generation 5, I simply dislike it compared to the other generations. Now, although I wasn't a fan of a lot of the pokemon it added, my biggest concern with gen 5 was its lack of adding anything big to the game. It just felt like I was playing generation 4 again but with more pokemon and a much easier elite four. Sure, it added new abilities, but every generation adds new abilities and its not like this is a brand new idea. Sure, they added triple battles. Too bad there were only two times it actually happened in black and white, nor are they used very often in competitive battling. There wasn't even any triple battles in gen 6 due to the lag it would create on the 3D engine. The dreamworld abilities it added completely changed the usefulness of many pokemon(torchic, first uber starter) I'll admit, but compared to what the other games added, this is small. The abundance of several questionable designs overshadowed the good ones and partly ruined the experience for me. So yes, my least favourite generation is gen 5. I don't hate it, but I don't like it either. Please, I would very much like to hear what you guys think about this. Oh, and sorry to anyone who does like generation 5, this is just my opinion.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Meowstic Royalty on January 19, 2014, 23:13
Ugh, its the first two for me.

Generation 1
• Bad Pokemon designs
• Pathetic graphics
• Hardly any features
• BUGS BUGS BUGS EVERYWHERE

Generation 2
• Hated the starters
• Hated the Pokemon
• A few more features, but still missing a LOT
• BUGS
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: SirBlaziken on January 20, 2014, 00:06
It's gen 2 for me.

Although the grass and fire starters were cute and fun to use (try chikorita, I dare you!), it just couldn't stay on par with the rest of them for me.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on January 20, 2014, 06:35
Gen 2 for me. Generation 2's Pokemon were boring and awful in battle for the most part. GSC's Johto felt boring for the most part, with exception to Goldenrod and Ecruteak, and Kanto was destroyed when they could have just made a better, more expansive and interesting Johto.

Overall, generation 2 seemed to suffer from what I can only conceive as an attempt to lower the overall power of Pokemon. While gen 1 had a really offense oriented metagame, gen 2 brought in bulky Pokemon like Umbreon, Skarmory, Blissey, Suicune, and Raikou, which took over the metagame. Know what's not fun? Battles that last over 200 turns where neither opponent has lost a Pokemon or done much of anything at all.

I guess this is all just personal opinions though, since most people seem to praise gen 2 as if it was the best point in the franchise, which I find laughable. It took place at the best time in the franchise, because Pokemon had hit it's peak popularity around that time, but that had little to do with gen 2, as generation 1 had taken the world by storm. So when the franchise had hit it's peak popularity, G/S happened to come out next and because everyone's friends were into it, good times were had. Nostalgia tends to blind people to this, and that's okay because having a good time with friends always makes times better, but if you look at GSC objectively... they're really not that good.

And sure, you and a friend can just battle with whatever you've raised in-game and it can be fun and strategic, but if either of you has any ambition to get better, a little research is all that person will need to begin using defensive Pokemon like Forretress, Skarmory, Blissey, Umbreon, Misdreavus and Suicune, and if you hope to compete, you have to use them too because nothing viable in GSC has high enough damage output to break the best walls the metagame has to offer.

Okay, rant over. I'm sorry/congratulations for reading all of that, but there's my thoughts on the worst generation. If only they'd remake R/S/E in glorious 3D...
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: SaRo|Rapidash on January 20, 2014, 07:44
Gen IV

The region was the most boring in existence, it brought about Chimchar, it has MOUNTAINS >_<

(Also not impressed with all the gen II hate! I'll have to go and get Chloe to sort you out xD)
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: JSM on January 20, 2014, 10:25
Generation 2 for me as well. I just feel like I haven't connected with the region very well. I think Johto feels a bit empty idk just something about it I don't like too much.
I think my order would be something like:
3>4>6>1>5>2
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Wolstenholme on January 20, 2014, 15:00
(Also not impressed with all the gen II hate! I'll have to go and get Chloe to sort you out xD)

The wild Chloe used Outrage!
It's super effective!

obviously, to counter anyone's hate of gen 2 would be off topic and counter productive in terms of making friends and having fun. Just let it be said that I worship Gen II, I don't find any of it's Pokemon, Cities or characters etc. boring.

The worst for me is Gen IV,  I still don't know my way around the region and I think they were uninventive with the new starters/gym leaders/evolutions. Most of my least favourite pokemon come from Sinnoh e.g. Lucario, Garchomp, Toxicroak. I never really felt that I connected with it.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: the bread dragon on January 20, 2014, 15:48
gen 5 for me. i know its been said too many times but garbodor is an abomination. gym leaders werent very memorable,  not really a fan of the starters (serperior is cool but it really isnt great). team plasma wasnt as cool as the others (just bring rocket back for gods sake!)

scrafty was cool tho i wont hate on him
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 20, 2014, 20:56
Okay, rant over. I'm sorry/congratulations for reading all of that, but there's my thoughts on the worst generation. If only they'd remake R/S/E in glorious 3D...
Now, as much as I would like a R/S/E remake, I honestly doubt that it will happen. First, in my opinion, the reason they made a gen 1 & 2 remakes were for two reasons: 1. To bring back old fans who felt nostalgia as well as the fact that they were the best selling pokemon games at the time. 2. To allow johto and kanto pokemon to be more easier to access as pokemon from Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal could not be transferred to Generation 3. Not to mention the fact that-although it surprises me-R/S/E were the lowest grossing pokemon games. Because of this, as much as it saddens me to say, I really doubt nintendo will make a remake of their lowest grossing main series pokemon generation.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: SirBlaziken on January 23, 2014, 01:38
^Objection!

They may have another go, fans may raise enough of a stink for Game Freak to actually do it. If they do, I'm getting it first chance I get.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 08, 2014, 23:59
^Objection!

They may have another go, fans may raise enough of a stink for Game Freak to actually do it. If they do, I'm getting it first chance I get.
I'm quite happy to say that you proved me wrong. Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire!!!! Im getting Alpha Sapphire as soon as it releases!
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Mew King on May 09, 2014, 12:18
I just disliked Gen III.  I know I might get a lot of flak for saying that especially with OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire coming out but listen here...

I didn't dislike Gen III because of the actual story or the Pokemon in it.  I hated it for other reasons

I disliked Ruby and Sapphire because of how it seemed to have made all the work we did in Gen II essentially worthless.  I understood that there's no way they could have physically worked out.  The GB couldn't interact with the GBA and the Pokemon structures changed completely.  But it still felt bad...especially to a 13 year old me that had all 251 Pokemon...someone who convinced my parents to drive 40+ miles to get to a Six Flags where Celebi was being given out and who (and 15 miles to get to the mall where they gave out Mew, but Celebi is more impressive because none of us really cared for Six Flags and we had to pay hella lot of money for that).

Then when I got used to Ruby and Sapphire, FireRed and LeafGreen came out.  Both games felt like several steps back from Ruby and Sapphire.  For one, the bike LITERALLY moved only as fast as the running shoes.  And the R and L buttons did something downright stupid.  I couldn't get the happiness evolutions until after beating the game.  The whole game felt ridiculously slow.

Also, the time systems for all 5 games were (http://pkmn.net/sprites/crystal/165.gif) (especially FireRed and LeafGreen's lack of it).  I couldn't really get my favorite Eevee-evolutions.

Of course, on the other hand, Gen III had THE best side-games (aside from the Pokemon Rumble games) period.  I loved Colosseum and XD.



If they only make improvements like they did in HeartGold and SoulSilver and not deprovements like they did in FireRed and LeafGreen, then I'm certain I will love the remakes.

Ledyba edit: Please don't swear, even 'censored' swears is something we'd like to avoid.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: IceRain on May 09, 2014, 19:15
I have been saying Gen III was my least favorite for the longest time but honestly it's probably Gen I. A lot of the Pokémon bored me and Kanto is eh. You can hate me for it but idc so :P
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: kindtocrows on May 09, 2014, 20:03
It's kind of funny reading this thread now, with OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire being announced.

For me, it's either Gen I or Gen IV. Though, I've got a good amount of nostalgia for Gen IV, so it's probably Gen I. The original games were really buggy, and when I first played Yellow, it took me forever to get past the first gym (though that was mostly my fault...), and when I played the remakes I found them really boring compared to R/S/E.

As for Gen IV, I'm honestly a little mixed... I mean, there are a lot of things I liked, but the things I didn't were just... ughhh. Most of Gen IV's pokemon were pretty boring, I didn't like any of the starters (sorry people who like piplup), the fact that there were only two fire types in D/P forced me to usually pick Chimchar, so I never really used the others, and Mount Coronet. The games just didn't feel complete to me. Though Platinum fixed a few of those issues, adding more fire types, making the game feel more complete and polished, but I still didn't like many of the Gen IV pokemon, I still didn't like the starters, and Mount Coronet still existed. On the other hand, DPPt had a pretty decent plot (for the time), and though Team Galactic was full of idiots, Cyrus was pretty threatening, which I liked, the boss battles were usually pretty fun, I loved the music, and Gen IV introduced a lot of new legendaries, all of which I loved.

And my rant on why I love and hate Gen IV is done. Sorry for that.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Delicious_Scout on May 09, 2014, 20:36
Well, I am one of the few who liked Generation Four the most, for the same reasons you did.

But the one I dislike the most is, quite probably, Generation One.

As a kid, it was quite tedious to walk without the bike, and getting the bike was not so easy if one did not check all houses. There were few indications how to advance, although that was not completely necessary once one reached Lavander Town's famous Earth-Type Ghost (freedom to choose gym battle, or even before as some have said). Heck, you even had to BUY a soda for the keepers as a BRIBE! TEAM ROCKET HOSTAGES ARE AS CHEAP AS BLOODY HELL! SOME ROCKS LOOKED LIKE FAT MEN!

(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130919170715/es.pokemon/images/5/55/Mazmorra_Rara_PB_RAAm.png)

Look at the entrance! These two rocks look like a fat(ter) Mario holding a pint of beer; a fat, bald, white guy from GSC, or even a tiny Snorlax!

As an adult, I could understand what was going on (it was not Takeshi's Challenge, after all), but leveling Pokémon up is a PAIN. Heck, one can just have a team made out of six Pokémon because training any other wild Pokémon (bar legendaries, even lvl 7 Mew) was plain impossible due to the fact that capturing one required you not to have a full box in use, do not miss with the Pokéball, not being hit by Wrap AND having enough good moves to teach them... if they could learn any. Only Mimic and Hyper Beam were and are real options! And Hyper Beam has the problem of needing a turn for recharging purposes if one happened not to KO the rival with the move! And to have good moves one has to transfer them to GSC, and that means not messing with the Time Capsule!
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: MonsterMon64 on May 09, 2014, 22:34
Probably Gen IV, not counting my experience with SoulSilver, which was pretty sweet.* Even then, I do have fond memories of my time in Pearl. I just feel it's the weakest in the series by association. My biggest problems were:

1. going through the same mountain like a million times
2. how unorganized Galactic was as a team

...which I guess dragoncat already kind of pointed out.

Gen 6 is probably my second-least favorite so far; I won't say it's the one game that killed off my enthusiasm for the main games (there are a lot more external reasons than there were issues I had with the game itself) but if I'm going to get burnt out on a series, I'd like to at least end on a stellar note. White was so good it actually had me HYPED for the next installment, and White 2 was great too. The series could have ended there and I'd be happy. But nah, Y happened, and now I don't even feel inclined to shell out for Alpha Sapphire (though I'm happy we're getting remakes, definitely)

*which is the opposite of how it was for me in Gen III. Loved Sapphire, but LeafGreen was kind of... okay. Idk what they were thinking with most of the music in Fr/Lg, though.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Laprasking on May 10, 2014, 01:34
-Rant Mode Activated!-
Gen 5, straight up gen five. but before the flame wars start, I don't mind Trubbish/Garbadore, and the Vanillite family, and it had decent guys Lampent, Bisharp, and some others. But this gen has more than TEN Legendaries, TEN, and that's INCLUDING  Black/White 2.  And don't forget the latest mystery dungeon in which I'll pretend it doesn't exsist along Mario, Zelda CD-I, Bajo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts, and Action 51. It's just no, Nintendo, how can you screw up Mystery Dungeon by throwing out most gen one and up to make room for Gen 5..just no....
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Ledyba on May 10, 2014, 15:33
For me it's easily Gen 4.

I like the Pokémon but I found nearly everything else so dreadfully dull, it didn't help that it's now sandwiched between my two favourite generations.

Firstly, the game was just so slooooooooooow, especially coming after the slick and responsiveness that Gen 3 boasted, selecting a command had a delay in it and moving through the overworld just seemed so jerky and sluggish.   There were some very interesting myths in Shinnoh but overall the region just  felt a little uninspired.

And the story is overblown and bordering on silly, it was almost like a parody of a Pokemon story.  As much as I like Palkia based on looks alone, it felt like GameFreak wanted to top the power that Kyroge and Grondon had and not only  created the Pokemon with the power of TIME and SPACE but had the GOD of Pokemon available for you through events.  It made the world of Pokemon seemed a lot shallower for what seems to sake of escalating story concepts and now two generations later and Arcues, which by it's concept alone should be the ultimate Pokemon and absolute sits awkwardly in the middle of the Pokedex.

Black and White handled it much better, by having two Pokemon with a more localised and deeper story.

That said I do love the Pokemon of that generation.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Spriter on May 10, 2014, 15:48
smh at Gen 4 being hated on so bad D:

I genuinely don't have a generation that I utterly despise, but I'd say there's part of me that says Generation 3. Only because FR/LG were genuinely slow games. The plot was average at best, but the worst thing has to be the leveling up. It's incredibly slow to level up after you've beaten the Elite Four, and you still have Sevii Islands to explore afterwards. That said, I did love the Sevii Islands.

R/S/E were fantastic games though, so it kind of counteracts how I dislike FR/LG
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Ledyba on May 10, 2014, 15:51
Gen 4 did however, did a lot of things right, it's highlight is the physical special split, which was the best thing to happen the battling side imo.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Turner on May 10, 2014, 19:29
Gen 4 was always a solid favorite of mine just below Gen 2...if anything I feel like it was massively underrated.

Maybe not the best time to say it but Gen 3 has always been my least favorite. I would be tempted to say Gen V but I think B/W2 improved things dramatically. Gen 3 seemed to feel nothing like the Pokemon world that Gen 1 and 2 had established. None of the characters really stuck with me and I wasn't really taken with many Gen 3 Pokemon either. Hoenn itself was a fairly decent region but the sheer amount of water did get annoying. I wonder if AS/OR will execute Gen 3 in a different way. I always felt that Ruby and Sapphire had a completely different atmosphere because Pokemon had just declined massively in popularity and Satoshi Tajiri stopped having as much influence on the games.

Gold/Silver was supposed to be the last Pokemon games in the series, I wonder if R/S seemed so different because they hadn't planned on where to go from here, then by the time we got to Diamond and Pearl it felt like the original Pokemon feeling had returned.

Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Shaymin on May 13, 2014, 11:02
unfortunately i've never been too fond of gen five - although i love some of the designs from that era, ie, oshawott, zoroark, axtinguish, i wasn't fond of the storyline - having to go through the e4 TWICE just to become champion?! the stuff after you ran through the e4 first time and weren't made champion, your mons were HIDEOUSLY underlevelled for? and THREE unobtainable Pokémon that only just NOW I've even been able to get one of?

Plus, Team whatever they were called were just ridiculous - oh we're gonna free all pokemon but still use some to force you to free yours? nah, that's lame son
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: OpalRhea on May 13, 2014, 11:56
I have to agree with Lauren. Gen five felt horrible in my opinion. Although that might be because there was more emphasis on online play.
 It also felt too... Quick for my liking. And it didn't have the replayability that I had with other gens. Also, despite derpape, gen four was pretty good (...especially eqing derpape if you chose turtwig). Wasn't my favourite but... The other reason I dislike gen five is because of MD:GtI. It was crap.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: SpinnelSun on May 14, 2014, 04:02
I used to dislike Gen 4 but looking back now it actually wasn't too bad, just a bit forgettable. Least favourite would be Gen 5. Wasn't a fan of the region and although it brought in some pokemon I love (Vanillite <3) most of them were just... average.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Mistral on May 18, 2014, 19:58
Gen 3 definitely. I dunno why, just looking back, I feel like it wasn't super enjoyable. I thought Fortree City was cool & all, & I liked Flannery & Team Magma, but other than that, there wasn't a whole lot to appeal to me there.

Also gen 5, but that may have been because I missed all of the hype for it & didn't get the games until months before XY launched. I probably wouldn't have minded it as much had I been around for the hype and whatnot.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on July 02, 2014, 22:48
I don't really have a least favorite  Gen but the story portion of XY disappointed me slightly and I defeated it in less than six hours my first run through. And that was almost nonstop except to use the bathroom and to eat. Plus the Post game was pretty disappointing but I still liked the game itself.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Raphetty on July 02, 2014, 22:50
I would say Generation 5, mainly because of the Dream World (which since ceased to exist). It was just a major grindfest, having to log on every day just to have a chance of getting a decent Dream World ability (now Hidden Ability). I lost interest because of this, and only came back because of Generation 6.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: RocketMember002 on July 03, 2014, 23:21
Gen 3 easily. Half the bloody region is sea routes for god's sake, add on to that a massive chunk of the pokemon were completely unobtainable for a year while Gamefreak pretended the older generations didn't exist and RS was some glorious fresh start.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Wrath of Zuruggu on July 05, 2014, 20:20
Have to say V as well... not really into it for all this competitive battling malarkey, so just judging by whether I had a good time playing it or not. Which I didn't, and I haven't even made it all the way through the story in either B/W or B2/W2 (I couldn't even tell you which I bought, and it's the only gen that I haven't bought ALL the versions for).

That's not to say I disliked the Pokemon themselves... I just found the game slow and boring. I expected much more than was delivered in terms of cool places to explore and fun things to do. Plus what everyone else had said, pretty much.

Tbh, I expected more from VI as well and had that, "oh, is that it?" feeling towards the end but at least it was fun to play through (overlooking Lumiose city and all those camera angles that made me dizzy @_@).
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on July 05, 2014, 21:02
Gen 3 easily. Half the bloody region is sea routes for god's sake, add on to that a massive chunk of the pokemon were completely unobtainable for a year while Gamefreak pretended the older generations didn't exist and RS was some glorious fresh start.

I think they "pretended" to surprise everyone with the announcement that the first gen games were being remade. I mean up until that point, who expected GameFreak to remake a game?
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Liam on July 07, 2014, 15:53
I think I'll go for gen 5
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Joe_Pokemon2015- MEGA RAYQUAZA! on July 22, 2014, 10:43
I am torn over whether Gen 6 is the worst or not. Gen 6 had almost no new Pokémon. Sure there are some good new features they put in, like Mega Evolutions (which in my opinion sounded more like that this was copied off another Mon franchise). Plus, the legendaries are too easy to catch compared to the normal Pokémon you find in grass, at sea, etc.

I don't know why people don't like Gen 3 or Gen 5, I think they're really good generations.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Bulbakip on September 15, 2014, 21:07
It was Gen 4 for me:

1.Starters were kind of bad   :mellow:
2.All Pokémon were too... "tacky"...  :-/
-I mean... Take the final starter evolutions: Tortera - had too much stuff: a tree, spikes and stuff just TOO MUCH DETAILS; Empoleon - the trident on its head and the finns and the white thing on it's belly!; The    monkey that I don't jnow the name of - the burning head, and those armour-like things... Did you get what I mean - it was TOO MUCH!  :wacko:
3. There were a lot of bad Pokémon (my opinion)  :dry:
-Examples: The cat that has UGLY in it's name, the oven/landmower/fan/washing machine/fridge (I like rotom but not its evolutions), the ballon, the duck with hoola-hoops (Sorry but i just don't like Cresselia)

And: The anime episodes were full of fillers - more than usual  :o ...

Although, there were some good Pokémon that came in Gen 4 - Shinx, Riolu and a couple more + some evolutions  :yeswink:
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Neotenens on November 08, 2014, 22:34
I dislike gen II. Starters sucked, designs were weird, story was boring. Hoh-oh is cool, though...
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: E.C.A.M.B.S. on November 08, 2014, 22:53
Gen 6 is so overrated. It has the worst music of all the pokemon games. I also dislike how everything looks so new. The more human-looking sprite (not the overworld sprite) of the player character has a face that is so plain. They try to make the player character more beautiful and detailed by giving it a human portrait, but it ends up being completely smooth and featureless. Everything just looks so glossy and new but it lacks real detail. The 3D is also pretty bad. The 3D animated Pokemon's body parts overlap sometimes when they move. I had a Zigzagoon whose backsprite literally had the fur on its back sliding into and out of its tail like a ghost.
Title: Re: Least favourite Generation
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on February 01, 2015, 06:57
I think all the Gens had their own strengths and weaknesses. I can find something little about each game that I didn't like but it doesn't ruin the region for me. In Gen 1 it was how vastly different many of the Pokemon looked in the games and on the TCG artwork and anime. In Gen 2 it was needing a second Game Boy to use the Time Capsule and to use Mystery Gift. Gen 3 it was some of the Move Tutors. Gen 4 it was that in order to use the Underground to its fullest extent and to get Spiritomb, you needed friends with the games in the same room which I did not have. In HGSS I was disappointed that you HAD to use Mystery Gift to get the Routes with some of the best Pokemon to get at the time such as Iron Head Beldum or Surf Pikachu. Gen 5 I was annoyed that I did not have a computer at the time to use the Dream World to it's fullest extent. Gen 6 it was how short the story and post story were in XY and that in ORAS Looker seems to be so randomly inserted with no real purpose other than to give you Audinite. I mean he played somewhat significant roles in every game he appeared in.