There is only so much we can do and let's face it, we're pretty busy people ourselves.
This is why I asked about being a mod before, I have more than enough time on my hands to take over from you if you ever need me to!I think your PM to me about how you really cannot process a large amount of text (really though, i sent you like 2-3 sentences at best) and your general ability to both ignore PMs and trying to making statements that you later do not claim responsibility for would give me some discomfort if you were made a moderator.
This is why I asked about being a mod before, I have more than enough time on my hands to take over from you if you ever need me to!
I think everyone is getting slightly too familiar with everyone else and it's causing threads to become more like extended conversations which is breeding shorter, sometimes terse replies and that's where the rule breaking is happening. being fun.Nope, it's just a select few newbies who for some reason cannot read the rules properly
also if this is the "whatever shall we do with this name master" Star Chambers like honestly??????? he's an eager lad with his heart in the right place but his forum posting slightly hyperactive and scaring him off would be a bit of a shame i guess. i can't say i haven't posted in his topics lately is all and he is basically like a younger me
Can we start talking about rules again? Stop talking about me (unless it's nice things!) I have certain disorders that makes it hard to interact with other people (Lord Raven knows this better than anyone!)
I have recently tried to interact with other people, but it ends up backfiring in my face like Rayquaza's hyper beam.
Can we start talking about rules again? Stop talking about me (unless it's nice things!)Someone asked for examples so I brought it up.
Don't expect a hugbox from me.
But to compare you and him, I highly doubt you tried to be all ~*badass*~ and say that you had an insult in store for me that was so bad that he'd get reported and banned instantly.
Furthermore, you were also pretty good about responding to people in threads and you rarely started threads yourself unless you were gonna properly follow up on people who responded. And truth be told, the issue I have with him isn't too different from the main issue I've felt this forum has always had but it's exacerbated as of late. People (and it's not just him) on this forum don't seem to be interested in some sort of discussion in general and are more interested in these status update threads which is literally all that's keeping this place afloat.
When any attempt at discussion is started (see the stupid questions thread) it's either not followed up on or someone just declares it off-topic (when it's clearly not) and ignores it. See the Paris Attacks thread, where the only person willing to even follow up on things was Turner and somehow our debate was... a vicious argument that needed to stop? No personal insults were made at any point, aside from stuff that was directed towards me (which was irritating either way when someone has and states a preconception of the crap you're about to say).
And somehow Captain Jigglypuff can get away with saying absolutely inane crap that's extremely creepy and he doesn't respond to a single person who calls him out on it - nor does he really improve his posting habits as a result. If people want examples when I state points, then I've provided them here with no intent to personally insult these people, and I'd like to give a shout out to Turner for actually taking time to challenge me on my viewpoints when I brought something up, because I wish people were more open to doing things like that and having things like that done to them.
It's been a problem, and arguably it's been an issue for the entire time I've been here but I've always been too young and immature and most importantly not confident enough to criticize it (or criticize it properly) until now, when I still don't think I'm too great at it.
Now, I'm neither a nice guy nor am I someone trolling someone off a forum unless they're a cancer. As far as I know, as inane as someone like Captain Jigglypuff gets, he's not really a cancer cause the worst is gets is me saying that he makes me extremely uncomfortable because the stuff he posts is off-kilter and borderline disturbing.
Don't expect a hugbox from me.
ADD, ADHD, AS, Bi-Polar, anxiety, depression etc.
?Welp, as far as I know, I've talked to him and he doesn't get it, and Rex just posted something about it so time will tell if he understands it.
im not sure what you mean here exactly
if you're talking about people being Scared Off it usually is a "they keep getting yelled at and dont understand actually why, and they eventually leave cos to them everyone keeps yelling at them for no reason" and im worried The Name Master is gonna go this way cos on a forum like this it's a big activity killer.
puk currently has no real USP or mission statement atm except for the Name Rater Hater (according to the amount of newbies who are like 'why the backlog???? i signed up cos of the name rater but.....') so really the Banter Topics are kind of the natural way and p much the only thing keepin this place afloat. if anyone wants to start up a New Topic for Increased Activity/Variety they're more than welcome, surely?They tend to go nowhere, i've given up on a lot of things here, in some ways I'm really unnecessarily acting entitled here (when I'm just as unentitled as everyone else here) because I've tried and in all honesty I can't do anything but try to facilitate things as opposed to starting things up myself. I am really not great at starting threads, I'm better at responding to things and I'm better at managing things, because I've tried and I didn't get replies (and in some cases I begged for feedback and criticism and got nothing, which ties into something you said later about people being more honest with me.)
uh......ok if you're talkin bout the france thread and why i was so "agghghghhuhgh" then that seems weird to bring up but if you want me to be blunt + honest its cos a multipage "is it islams fault or not" discussion was starting up in a topic meant to be for, like, honouring the people who just died. it felt like it was in poor taste and probably shoulda been taken elsewhere, i.e. the debate forum? idk about the religious denomination of the forum here but how do you think actual muslims woulda taken the Discussion going on in that topic?I'm from an Islamic family, but I don't see why discussion on the probable causes of things is in poor taste but that's just me. It was still fairly civil and in my opinion it's unproductive to "honor" things without really understanding why they happened in the first place.
also yes i too am guilty of this in my time but multi-page arguments between two users are kind of a topic-killer and are extremely boring for those except the two involved. on various forums i was on if that sort of thing started happening everyone would just groan and stop posting and the modship would usually knock their heads together like coconuts and go "cut it out you two or take it to the debate forum" cos things would inevitably get out of hand if left long enough. idk maybe its Different Forum Ways but thats usually when the "take it to PMs you two" is meant to come in.Well, I've never been on a forum that's said "take it to PMs" unless it was hostile or something, and as it stands that particular thread was not even hostile. Maybe "Debates" can be changed to like "News and Discussion" so it can encompass stuff like this, or maybe we can get combine some forums together so stuff isn't as spaced out.
so what you're saying is that you want people to be Honest and Frank with each other? or that you want them to be more honest with you? im havin a bit of a r****d time here cos the alternative of what you're saying here is that People Should Challenge Each Other More and thats incredibly risky on The InternetYes to all, and I don't think it's that risky on here if people take things much more in stride.
having Opinions on forums stuff anywhere on the internet is always risky ground tbh universally. there's no worry in feeling vaguely Awkward about itI don't what you're saying at the end of this but having opinions is only really risky if the kind of person who you're talking to has more an interest in winning an argument than actually discussing a topic. I don't think anyone here has the cigaro syndrome anymore. (ok so side note i'm trying to make a system of a down reference there)
honestly im not trying to appear cool here but captain jigglypuff's hate crusade is p tame and easily ignorable?????? just put him on your ignore list, apart from the natalie portman snuff fantasies the dude is kind of harmless and keeps to himself for the most part and if he eventually tries to make a hit on the lady (lmfao) then it wont be cos of this place.That is generally freaky but he has said some really stupid crap and clearly has more an interest in soap boxing than like actively participating on here. Everyone else seems to at least participate especially when the thread calls for it.
this is a fake edit cos it came up when i was typing but uh even for me you're being a little Personally Nasty to the dude rn imoSo "don't talk about me (unless you're nice)" gives me the impression of the kind of guy who won't take much out of any sort of criticism even if it's told to him in a way like how Rex posted. I don't think it's being personal at all, but in general I'm not gonna treat him any different than I treat just about everyone else.
I'm from an Islamic family, but I don't see why discussion on the probable causes of things is in poor taste but that's just me. It was still fairly civil and in my opinion it's unproductive to "honor" things without really understanding why they happened in the first place.
It's not an easy thing to discuss in any way.
Yes to all, and I don't think it's that risky on here if people take things much more in stride.
I mean you're doing that to me now and I'm glad because right now it's helping me say what I'm trying to get at a bit better.
I don't what you're saying at the end of this but having opinions is only really risky if the kind of person who you're talking to has more an interest in winning an argument than actually discussing a topic. I don't think anyone here has the cigaro syndrome anymore. (ok so side note i'm trying to make a system of a down reference there)
That is generally freaky but he has said some really stupid crap and clearly has more an interest in soap boxing than like actively participating on here. Everyone else seems to at least participate especially when the thread calls for it.
tl;dr we are all sinners. some people are more sinner than others. are people born sinners or do they have sin thrust upon them? who knows? certainly not me, but the residents of pee kay emm enn dot net are all sinners and must learn to put up with one another's sin in a civil and learn virtue through the process of other sinners telling them not to be sinful. will it work? who knows? sinners.
we had a shipping topic once n all so we might as well just stop resisting and turn puk into an anime at long last. i'll write the wiki
If we really are turning PUK into an anime, i'd actually be on board with that.*stands with a large board in front of number 10 downing street* PUK ANIME PUK ANIME PUK ANIME PUK ANI
psst outdated terms, its ASD now, AS dont exist anymore as of DSM-V due to Reclassification
To be honest, this place practically romanticizes personality disorders so don't let yours hold you back, the name master.
Not from what i've seen, no it doesn't. He shouldn't let them hold him back, however the site doesn't really romanticize personality disorders, otherwise I need that new pair of glasses more than I thought.
Well I've learned something here today. I bet the forums would have been a blast back in 2006 if the Autism spectrum was the trendy thing, people would have been bragging about being at a higher quotient than everyone else.
They should definitely read and understand the rules but it's indicative of a bigger problem here that we're not going to solve by hammering the rules into people. I'd go as far as to say this site needs to radically change as a priority if we want to stop this happening. This wouldn't be as big of a deal if the site and community was bigger and stronger.
Not from what i've seen, no it doesn't. He shouldn't let them hold him back, however the site doesn't really romanticize personality disorders, otherwise I need that new pair of glasses more than I thought.
I always feel a little awkward when people use mental illness as an excuse for being rowdy but I suppose that's my own internalised ableism or what have you. I have ASD and a few personality disorders that made me pretty goddamn terrible around here for years. Like Liz said I'd break rules like it was my job; I still talk to mods now who outright go "yeah man you were one of the worst members for a long time" and I can't take offence to it because yeah I was a mess. I think the thing is I grew up? And also people learned how to deal with me. I have an odd way of joking around and I'm generally pretty abrasive and I guess "intimidating" but the thing is like...
Even though I am a massive autist and I do have hella personality disorders and generally I am still A Big Mess, I still try to be accommodating so I'm easier to deal with? I don't expect everyone to have a degree in Dealing With The Mentally Ill Jerks Online. I dunno what I'm trying to say here I am tired.
Just try? To work with people? Using mental illness as a reason to break rules is all fine and good but honestly you'd have an easier time not using it as a reason to be weird about everything. Work with people and have people work with you so we know how to make things easier for you and you don't frustrate people and end up getting a bad rep.
*stands with a large board in front of number 10 downing street* PUK ANIME PUK ANIME PUK ANIME PUK ANI
in all seriousness, what about the kind of points system you sometimes see on forums thats like... 1 point for breaking the three word rule, dual posting that escalates etc and then u get to like 10 points for a 48 hour ban, 20 for a week long ban, 30 for a month, 40 a year and 50 lifetime (i think we'd shrink that down someone committing that many offences probably shouldn't be about past the 30 point idk)
i also remember back when i was Wee And Worse At Reading Comprehension (i literally had no idea abt the three word rule like?? three word rule??? i should be able to make posts with three words then??? but no it was four words) and the thing that really helped was when iceduck dropped me a wee correcting message and because he'd initiated and it was private and amicable i felt like i was able to go 'what does that actually mean???' and get some clarification. i think there's something to be said for everyone kind of being split a little like good cop bad cop so like u have a few people being harsh and showing u how it's done and another few being welcoming and indulgent bc in my case that was really helpful for integrating me.
They eventually leave cos to them everyone keeps yelling at them for no reason" and im worried The Name Master is gonna go this way.Maybe I might.... I wouldn't have to rate terrible nicknames anymore....
how do you go about changing this, logistically though? this is the Unspoken Problem im hedging around.
This site needs to be completely re-hauled and restructured so that the community actually drives the content of the site instead of generating it FOR the site.
Or are you going to post it on Reddit where you have a likelihood it will end up on a well-visted subreddit's wiki, viewed by thousands, maintained by others and referenced all over related subreddits in future threads where you can be quickly and properly credited for your work directly to your Reddit account?
Joeno has said before that if users want the site to change then they should do the work creating the content, but who's site is this really?
Elect a handful of active individuals to approve inbound content and let the community generate the rest, get a familiar, well-documented CMS in place so the moderators don't need to think about what's happening in the background;
do we really need users to waste time manually scraping together datasheets of stats and hold items just so it officially belongs to whoever is in charge of PKMN.NET?
Forget about the content. Do away with it.
Never going to happen. If we were to do that, we might as well close up shop. Why come here for just forums when there's plenty of others out there? Without the Name Rater (and I acknowledge that needs to be taken care of) we probably wouldn't have gotten any new members for years. This is probably going to sound pathetic to most of you, but I'd also feel I'd be betraying everyone who'd put the work into the site, not to mention throwing away their work. At best, it'd be the situation you're saying now - having it archived for people to do whatever they want to do with it.
For me then - to be honest, first of all, when these topics come up and the arguments occur about sometimes the flimsier things, and the tendency of the discussion usually feels like "throw away everything you've done and worked on", my instinct is to close the forums. It's a hassle to keep up, most of what comes out of it is a problem and when I need to deal with it, it's mostly a headache. I'd hand it over, but I can't say that's an option. I am, at least, considering having a stripped down forums mostly to serve the site bits that need it. After all, there are plenty of other places online to talk about these things, most more active than others.
Cards could work, but that's something where I think we need to think of a bigger redesign to make that work. Having that be discoverable is tough, but it's the one unique edge we've got.
Can you explain what you mean by this? Content of the site is what goes up on the site, it seems like semantics.
For what it's worth, most of the tools are there, but nobody has ever really come to me with a reasonable attempt to learn how things work and what to do.
But with that argument, there's no point putting anything on the site in the first place, so why go on about content on here?
Get me the right people (and excuse me for having doubts about some due to past experiences) and this is a matter of me changing some numbers around.
The CMS is all handwritten (and the database near-impossible to port) and support most of these things already. Otherwise I can edit them in, I'd be happy to.
And Wordpress? Biggest security hole on the internet at the moment. Absolute, complete no way to that, ever.
Never going to happen. If we were to do that, we might as well close up shop. Why come here for just forums when there's plenty of others out there? Without the Name Rater (and I acknowledge that needs to be taken care of) we probably wouldn't have gotten any new members for years.
This is probably going to sound pathetic to most of you, but I'd also feel I'd be betraying everyone who'd put the work into the site, not to mention throwing away their work. At best, it'd be the situation you're saying now - having it archived for people to do whatever they want to do with it.
For me then - to be honest, first of all, when these topics come up and the arguments occur about sometimes the flimsier things, and the tendency of the discussion usually feels like "throw away everything you've done and worked on", my instinct is to close the forums. It's a hassle to keep up, most of what comes out of it is a problem and when I need to deal with it, it's mostly a headache. I'd hand it over, but I can't say that's an option. I am, at least, considering having a stripped down forums mostly to serve the site bits that need it. After all, there are plenty of other places online to talk about these things, most more active than others.
The fun part for me is in the tech work - getting things running and fixing things. I probably should do a layout overhaul at some point (but without a decent UX designer, it's difficult to get that right). Saying it's a 2007 layout... sort of doesn't match the feeling I get from every other site out there, but there's some changes we can make for mobile friendliness. I have to balance multiple needs there, though, so it's not as easily done.
Beyond that, this is a small portfolio piece for me, and something I want to expand. We have our own Pokedex because that's where a lot of the interest is for me, tracking data and expanding it.
You're acting like the site that YOU made is someone else's responsibility to maintain. It's your job to engage users, not for the users to have to learn how you do things and take time out of their day to keep your website running.
With all due respect to your coding skill, is your handwritten CMS something that people will actually want to use to publish content to the site after a hard day at work/schoo?
Are you able to detail these plans at all?
Can I ask why you can't hand it over to someone else?
I've seen videogame fansites with working forums pop up overnight days after a game is announced on places like Reddit and 4chan. These sites are normally deployed using some kind of new, experimental JavaScript framework on top of an LAMP stack hosted on AWS or something with the admin only having a marginal technical skills; but because it's new, flashy and built with web 2.0 design principles in mind, people flock to it and use it until something else comes along.
I'm not saying that this is a good idea at all for a number of reasons (Security and stability first and foremost), but this is basically our competition. The users of these sites don't care about the backend stuff; they see a flashy, minimally designed site with the bare minimum of content and functionality they need and flock to it because it's the first and looks the best.
On top of this Joeno, I'd like to know what you think the future of this place is or what plans you have. If you share your vision for the site then maybe we can work with it.
You're saying these things need to happen. I don't feel that way. I'm speaking from your position that this should happen. I'm happy for things to stay the way they are.
yes
So what would it do. It's all very nice to go 'flashy' and 'Javascript' and web 2.0, but what would you do with it?
It's really, really easy to say "This is wrong", but it would be far more constructive to give some actual ideas that can be worked with. I've not seen anything concrete from you, and that makes it really difficult to say anything about.
im not letting this site be closed until we see the puk anime reach fruition
What you suggest is already there. People don't use it.
The forum not being active enough goes back a lot further, and comes from a toxic and argumentative group that was very active. That caused a number of notable contributors to be driven away. And on some level, that same attitude is still there. It's why I'm not inclined to do more here. Too much of a negative cycle to make the community work for the group that has been doing that work.
To be honest, Turner, looking at what you want out of the site, it seems like what you are looking for is simply not what PKMN.NET will ever offer or was ever going to. That's fine, I think part of the point here is that we can't be everything for everyone. But maybe it would help everyone if we can accept this.
The internet has changed. The way this website is run is slow and clumsy. If it doesn't make sense to me and many other people here, you can bet it won't make sense to the under-13s who've grown up on phones and tablets without desktop PCs and forums.
im not letting this site be closed until we see the puk anime reach fruition
- spriting resource???? we had a p deece spriting community and idk if any other websites teach u much about thatthese are cool ideas too, I dunno if we have many active spriters left at this point though? might be worth looking at.
- pokemon crafts, even if its just a kind of Pinterest affair in the end, prefaced with knitting/sewing/crochet tutorials n support. i roll around on ravelry quite a lot so if nothing else it'd make a good 10 minutes of wasting time
The vision mentioned before is one where I admit we won't have the latest content, because there is no way to win there at this point. User submitted content is too slow for that. The focus, for us, would be more community and interactivity based features. Again, the Name Rater is the big one there. Focusing on content is missing the point.
And if you want that honesty - your posts feel as aggressive as ever and are making me wonder why I bother. You have your own ideas, nothing posted here is changing them and O feel you would be better off implementing them on a site of your own.
snipThe issue is, I like all of these ideas, but nobody's stepped up and made anything consistent. I feel like people have been either passive or some of these streams and things like this don't get the attention, care, or support for the organizer to keep on going. I dunno, it's just an uphill battle to implement some of these.
None beyond possibly having only a handful of forums left, possibly mostly focus on site questions.You mean like consolidating a bunch of forums then having a few left for site questions? Or something else?
Is the site news ever going to be updated or is that basically out of the question now? Should we bother thinking about ways to improve the site news or can we consider that completely out of bounds?
How much are you willing to work with us or give us permission in creating PKMN.NET presences over the internet?
I'd like two things: First, a plan. What are you going to do with it and how are you going to do it.
Second, the right person. I don't really want to hand it over to the first person who comes along and I'd want to make sure some cohesion can be maintained. We'd ideally form a new team around it (we have the custom CMS, my permission management can be insanely granular), but it needs the right people to do it who'll keep them up.
I hope IRC is a decent enough example of that. Muhed stepped up to register it and keep that running, we had a conversation about it and it has been running fine ever since. It hasn't happened for these others though.Quotean official tumblr or subreddit?
On these two:
Tumblr looks easy enough to integrate, so could be worthwhile to add if there's a further plan for it (what, why etc)
A subreddit is one I am less sure about. To be honest - I'm not sure what the point is. It seems to me that a second discussion forum is redundant and possibly damaging when you're trying to grow it. If there are good reasons the other way I'm willing to listen to them.Quotea PKMN.NET twitch or YouTube stream. Is this doable?
I don't see an issue with these.
For some of these, if you're not sure what to do with them quite yet, try making an unofficial <thing> and we can switch it to be official when it becomes clearer. Not to say it can't be official straight away, but it might help ramp things up.The issue is, I like all of these ideas, but nobody's stepped up and made anything consistent.
This is, by the way, the main reason 'more content' (in whatever way) doesn't feel like the best way to go, and feature that can bypass some of that (crowd sourced without needing moderation) is a better direction to look into.QuoteYou mean like consolidating a bunch of forums then having a few left for site questions? Or something else?
Possibly. I haven't decided on anything yet. At least reduce the number. Perhaps a set of three (Pokemon - site - other stuff). Perhaps a few more (Pokemon games - anime - other pokemon - site - other stuff). The nuclear option would be site questions/updates only, without any community support.
And make the name rater thing a sub board that allows users to rate the nicknames without getting too crazy.That's exactly what I'm doing now I rate loads of terrible nicknames and say they're terrible
without getting too crazy.That's impossible when I'm around!
As for the aggressive tone; I really don't see how Turner was being aggressive, just disagreeing about certain things and questioning things here and there.
Then that's your entire reason the site died.
I don't think I need to say much to remind you of the long discussions/debates/arguments/flame wars we've had here before. I think you know just as well that you and Turner were on the other side to us on a lot of the issues there.
That caused a lot of struggle. We care enough about the site that it affected us personally and got into other things. Even now, when Mulholland saw Turner posting, he sighed and wished I just ignored everything. I don't want to, because it won't make things better, but I'm certainly still getting anxious about it. Even now, seeing those posts brings back the attacks.
The other admins lost interest and didn't want to deal with the redacted that's this part of the community anymore - the part that sometimes feels like it's dominating now. My thought was to redacted it all, ignore the community and leave it to do whatever - die or become one I don't want to engage with too much - and focus on my own things. It seems like I've become the only one to persevere and step in occasionally.
This isn't just admins, by the way. A more recent-ish (few years ago) popular feature ended as well because the person doing it thought the community had gotten toxic and didn't want anything to do with it anymore.
tag or something to tell forum games from the roleplaying threads.By making it its own forum as opposed to a subforum? It's pretty straightforward.
Turner, I could play some games like Smash (DS only here), XY, and ORAS over streams with people, I just can't actually show my face because I don't have the equipment to do so. Say Muhed wanted to fight people in Smash (DS) and stream the battle(s), I could fight and be a part of that, I just can't actually be on the stream i.e. talking and showing my face and stuff like that.
honestly i'm not massive on the idea of a pkmn dot net tumblr. if i'm understanding right we're trying to promote the site as a community as opposed to a content hub and i just don't think anyone on tumblr would care if that makes any sense?? like, sure, we could post fanart and be funny and add a link to pkmn dot net at the bottom of every post but i just don't think we could do anything with it; other people already have news etc covered and what could we do as a community?? pick on people's posts and make fun of them??? i mean sure i'd be up for doing that but i don't think too many other people would love it.
twitter feels like it could do everything we'd use tumblr for without all the excess baggage and certainly more professionally and succinctly
I would say it's probably better to avoid streaming ROM hacks though, as the forums prohibit their discussion and it could give new people the wrong idea.ROM hacks specifically, or all emulation? Again, without emulation altogether I expect there to be very little Pokémon content. But I understand and agree with what you've said. It's up to Joeno at the end of the day I guess.
Not that I think anyone would do it, but don't stream any kind of video either. No anime streams and especially no Pokemon episodes for obvious copyright reasons.This is against Twitch terms of service anyway I'm pretty sure so the channel would just end up closed if people did this, so yeah, please don't do this.
im a bit iffy on the "showcase a post" cos "funy post" may cause a bit of awkwardness specially if its at the expense of a kind of vunerable user emotionally/socially due to how you can't undelete someone elses reblog once its done. idk im just bein hippy counsellor here a bit i guess and also given people brought up Past Beefs as a reason for why stuff has gone a bit stale its probably best to steer away from progenitors of that sort of thing??? idk i might be blowing it out of proportion but i think its just a bit Risky is all. just me 2 centimos
ROM hacks specifically, or all emulation? Again, without emulation altogether I expect there to be very little Pokémon content.
Twitch works basically on the same principle but you can dish out stream keys (Authentication strings) for other people to stream to the same channel. If you have any questions or scenarios you think might be problematic, we'll look into them and tell you what would happen (Say for example, if 1 person tried streaming while another person was already streaming).In this example, the second person to go live would become the current streamer, and the first would be taken offline. To work around this we'd have to either establish a set schedule, or streamers would make sure to check the channel before going live to ensure there wasn't a current stream they would be interrupting.
Also, regarding tumblr, you could theoretically have months worth of posts ready to post - a queue holds up to about 300 at a time, and you can set it to post once a day or up to 24 or so per day. it lets you schedule posts as well, which is helpful for important dates (eg christmas or a anniversary of a game release). The tumblr blog needs to be a secondary blog, though, to access additional features that wouldn't be accessible otherwise. So if Joeno wanted to have it on his account, he'd have to have a primary for himself first, and then one for Pkmn.net, to get to admin position.
However, the way tumblr works is that to get into the inbox and for some posts, the people chosen to run the blog also need admin. I don't think they can close the blog or kick admins out, but it's been a while since I've ran a secondary blog (my homestuck blog is a primary) so, uh. Yeah.
Yeah, it's actually ideal having it set up that way too as it means Joeno still maintains control over the primary and we don't have to throw around passwords too much and end up with a situation where someone tries to lock down the whole account.yup, that was the general idea i was getting at. as long as the primary's taken care of and isn't deleted, it should be even more secure. the problem arises if the primary gets taken out/hacked into or if anyone who is set as admin starts messing with the settings, i think. i'd have to look more into the settings before i can confirm if anyone set as admin cal delete the blog. i know admins can demote the mods at least, it's mostly just needed to answer messages in the askbox i think.