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Title: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: Wolstenholme on September 14, 2013, 20:22
So I had this idea (I'm not sure how well it will go down but really want this to catch on because I've been thinking about posting this for weeks.) - Each month I will post a new topic for a debate, the topic will be a historical question and everyone must argue their opinion.


I thought it would be fun and interesting and I'm a huge History fan (academically).

14/09/2013: This month's the debate will be: "Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?"


Edit: Future debates will include; Slimy British Monarchs, European Dictators, The Princes in the Tower, Anglo-Scottish Relations, Modern History (1950 -), Ancient Rome/Greece & The World Wars! (I'll also throw in American History some more if there is demand for it!)
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: quack98 on September 14, 2013, 20:48
I don't know a huge amount about this, but from what I gather it seems to have been rather successful, although I don't tend to like the narrow scope of 'success or failure' as it is very rare something is purely either.

Edit: got it mixed up... Deleted the bit that was wrong
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: lets all go out for some frosty chocolate milkshakes on September 15, 2013, 18:23
are you trying to get puk to do your history homework/revision for you
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: Wolstenholme on September 15, 2013, 18:24
Nope. This has absolutely nothing to do with my History course, I just love History loads and loads  ^.^
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: quack98 on September 15, 2013, 18:28
are you trying to get puk to do your history homework/revision for you

I had this thought too... But then I remembered she's said she loved history before xD
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: That Girl in the 'Roo Suit on September 15, 2013, 18:32
Modern history is not defined as the last sixty years... Its more from the 19th century until last night. Maybe even the 18th century. I'd class Jacobean as early modern, for example. They're pretty hazy terms, especially to an Egyptologist or ancient historian. Just saying....
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: Wolstenholme on September 15, 2013, 18:33
I was defining it as that particular part of Modern History...
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: SirBlaziken on September 15, 2013, 18:35
This is turning into a debate of what part of history it's from.
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: Wolstenholme on September 15, 2013, 18:36
This is not how imagined this would go down   v_v
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: SirBlaziken on September 15, 2013, 21:33
Well, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: Liam on September 15, 2013, 21:36
Sure, it boosted morale but it was hardly going to impact the economy particularly in the long term. Industrialisation following the beginning of WW2 is to thank for that.

That's what I was told.
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: quack98 on September 15, 2013, 21:38
I find its hard to determine its success, mainly because the Second World War kind of got in the way a bit...
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: Wolstenholme on September 15, 2013, 21:43
I had to do this big long essay on it way back in year 10...we were supposed to determine whether it was the New Deal or WW2 that got them out of the Great Depression - The thing is, a lot of the terms of the New Deal weren't all that helpful whereas World War 2 got loads of the factories to re open, thus creating millions of jobs & fueling their economy.
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: quack98 on September 15, 2013, 21:45
The New Deal didn't factor in the possibility of a war, as is clear by its blatant lack of budget, so I think it would have been quite successful, but the WW deteriorated its need.
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: Lord Raven on September 15, 2013, 22:39
Personally the fact that I am alive right now may or may not be somewhat of a splash damage result of the New Deal

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Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: quack98 on September 15, 2013, 22:43
^Actually, this is kind of a point (if I've understood it right...). It can't have failed that badly if america is still one of (if not the) most powerful countries.
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: Lord Raven on September 15, 2013, 23:47
It was meant to be a tongue in cheek comment referencing the butterfly effect
Title: Re: History Debates [Was President Roosevelt's 'New Deal' a success or a failure?]
Post by: Milsap on September 27, 2013, 22:14
I think WWII fixed the economy better than the New Deal did. The war pushed people into manufacturing jobs and stuff got sold to the allied forces.