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Misc => Media => Music => Topic started by: SirBlaziken on July 23, 2013, 16:48
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It seems that everyone is in a fan war either hating him or being madly obsessed with him. So what are your thoughts on this? Is he a great guy with an incredible talent, or overhyped media trash? Honestly, I don't hate him, his music just stinks.
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overhyped media trash
his music just stinks.
You've got your answer.
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Well, that killed it.
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He's not that great, he can sing in tune which is for some reason considered to be a genuine reason as to why we should give him the time of day despite being able to sing being something of a requirement of pop singers in the past.
His YouTube views, Twitter followers and Facebook likes were revealed to be largely inflated artificially by his label in order to give the illusion of popularity (and therefore, quality). If you like his music you shouldn't feel guilty for it, but it's really nothing special and he is just the overhyped flavour of the month/year/half a decade popstar to market to the widest teenage girl demographic.
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I don't hate him, just his music
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Although I don't particularly like his music, I don't really dislike it either. I think it's a lot better than most give credit for, everyone's too busy jumping on the bandwagon of hating on him to actually listen to his music before they hate it. Imo he's not all that bad, fairly average pop star, who gets a particularly bad rap.
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Although I don't particularly like his music, I don't really dislike it either. I think it's a lot better than most give credit for, everyone's too busy jumping on the bandwagon of hating on him to actually listen to his music before they hate it. Imo he's not all that bad, fairly average pop star, who gets a particularly bad rap.
I'm sort of like this; he's not bad I just feel he's average. Nothing really special about him, many pop artists are much better than him, and that's the problem. I know quite a few people who sing better than him, they just don't have the confidence to do something about it.
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his music is okay. the kid himself is a little questionable. hes done some pretty problematic stuff. usually i try and give him a bit of leeway or something, but hes umm.
hes sort of an ass lol
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Whilst I do agree his music sucks, what I don't agree with is people saying 'we need to kill him now he's an idiotic abomination'. OK, he is questionable, but there isn't much justification for that. He hasn't murdered hundreds of people, so there isn't much evidence for why he should be killed. Otherwise, i don't like him or his music, but I couldn't care less about popstars to be honest.
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Justin Bieber is to pop music in 2013 that the Beatles were in 1963. Teenage girls love him, he is selling millions and millions of records and is an icon for that particular generation. Same way Elvis was for my parents and Kurt Cobain for my generation.
While I find Bieber's music to be mediocre at best, I think that the amount of people b***hing about him are either A) Metalheads who believe that there's only one kind of music in the world or B) People who can't accept that different people like different things and will constantly moan at the fact that people with 'more talent' than him are getting nowhere. Fact is this: Bieber is popular music for the masses. Megadeth is more niche.
I don't like his music, so I stay the hell away from it. People hate him because it's the 'in' thing to do. It's the same way it's 'cool' to hate on Nickelback and Coldplay.
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It's the same way it's 'cool' to hate on Nickelback and Coldplay.
no no hating on nickleback isnt cool its just justified because they suck
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Justin Bieber is to pop music in 2013 that the Beatles were in 1963. Teenage girls love him, he is selling millions and millions of records and is an icon for that particular generation. Same way Elvis was for my parents and Kurt Cobain for my generation.
While I find Bieber's music to be mediocre at best, I think that the amount of people b***hing about him are either A) Metalheads who believe that there's only one kind of music in the world or B) People who can't accept that different people like different things and will constantly moan at the fact that people with 'more talent' than him are getting nowhere. Fact is this: Bieber is popular music for the masses. Megadeth is more niche.
I don't like his music, so I stay the hell away from it. People hate him because it's the 'in' thing to do. It's the same way it's 'cool' to hate on Nickelback and Coldplay.
The Beatles actually changed pop music though and they also changed society. In case you didn't know, before 'She Loves Me Yeah Yeah Yeah' came around, people didn't say the word 'Yeah', they said 'Yes'. The Popularity of The Beatles wasn't as simple as 'Massively popular pop act who girls throw themselves at' they actively changed Britain's youth from rejecting the traditional stiff upper lip society imposed on by their parents, they represented cutting loose from society and embracing youth culture, something that had never been done before in such a magnitude and still has massive implications on society today, both here and in other countries. Beatles shaped the post-war western world and their fans were not just kids with money, they were teenagers - something which was never a part of British culture beforehand - you went from school to work and that was that, there were no 'teen fashions' or 'teenage culture' as we know them now and you can thank The Beatles for using their massive popularity to make that the standard worldwide, Bieber hasn't touched upon anything near that.
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While I find Bieber's music to be mediocre at best, I think that the amount of people b***hing about him are either A) Metalheads who believe that there's only one kind of music in the world or B) People who can't accept that different people like different things and will constantly moan at the fact that people with 'more talent' than him are getting nowhere. Fact is this: Bieber is popular music for the masses. Megadeth is more niche.
I am C) People who genuinely dislike his music and attitude and pretty much everything else too.
his music is okay. the kid himself is a little questionable. hes done some pretty problematic stuff. usually i try and give him a bit of leeway or something, but hes umm.
hes sort of an ass lol
This but I do't even like his music. Dang.
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He made tattoos seem less edgy and cool. Didn't think it could be possible but somehow he ruined it....
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I read somewhere that he gobbed on a whole load of people off a balcony the other day.
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Eh, he's a bit of a dick. I just tend to ignore people like this. His music isn't too bad I guess, not what I listen to but I guess I can understand the hate to a certain degree.
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Justin Bieber was spoiled by fame. He thinks he's cool, and about him spitting over the balcony onto his own fans, he does it because he thinks he can and that nobody can do anything about it. He thinks the entire world revolves around him. But he will never be a cool, hip, or badass. Because I remembered him as this sweet kid and that's what he should be. It's too late for him to change that. What happened to this sweet little kid?:
(http://www.wallibs.com/gudang/justin-bieber-photos.jpg)
As for his music, it's nothing special. Some of it may not be his fault. Mixers butchered a bunch of moaning electronic crap next to his voice. Listen from 1:15 - 1:29. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISV4LviSSMQ)
Has this been happening with more than one of his songs? Or am I just mixing something up?
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Well Draghost, you have me there.
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he used to be ok, but he turned into a loser
he's sagging his pants soo low it looks like he's crapped his pants
and he doesn't piss in the bathroom, just on an american flag.
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pop superstar in spoilt brat shock terror
more at 10
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I saw a newspaper headline yesterday that said "Bieber's spit hits the fan!" I laughed for at least 20 minutes... He just seems to be a really horrible person, he's famous and he knows it so he thinks that he's better than everyone else... He's like one of those people in school who you never understand because they're a disgusting horrible car crash of a person but they have friends.
I also despise his music because every single Bieber song is about love... but not love, just having a girlfriend they're also poorly written and produced.
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He'll be appearing on Buzzcocks in the Identity Parade in about 20 years.
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Meh.
In my opinion, mediocre singing, below average music and obnoxious personality.
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I heard Justin won't talk to his grandparents or even give them some money after his grandpa got laid off and they are struggling. The grandma said it herself not the magazine where I read it. He is a bad person for not putting family first especially since these two HELPED the guy when his mom was single and needed help.
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I think the media put him in a bad light because he's young and an easy target. I reckon he's actually a pretty sound guy. From what I understand, the whole story about him spitting on his fans is a lie. He was spitting off a building...and later tweeted a picture of his fans. The media just put the two together to come up with a story. :p
I think his music isn't bad. There's a lot better around, but he's only 19 so he's still pretty young.
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I heard Justin won't talk to his grandparents or even give them some money after his grandpa got laid off and they are struggling. The grandma said it herself not the magazine where I read it. He is a bad person for not putting family first especially since these two HELPED the guy when his mom was single and needed help.
Normally I don't buy into that stuff but if it is true that's horrific.
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^I read it in a People magazine, one of the few celeb magazines that actually print true things.
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^I read it in a People magazine, one of the few celeb magazines that actually print true things.
oh child youve got a lot to learn about media magazines
I think the media put him in a bad light because he's young and an easy target. I reckon he's actually a pretty sound guy. From what I understand, the whole story about him spitting on his fans is a lie.
but thats, like, one incident out of around 20 that have actually turned out to be false. lets not forget all the other things hes done, such as the time he ordered a specially made vegan steak and spat it out in front of the chef, or met the prime minister of canada in a pair of overalls, or visited the blackhawks locker room and stood on their logo, or wrote that he wished anne frank was a belieber in her guest diary, or punched out goofy at disneyland, or the fact he said rape happens for a reason, or all the other times he was an overall brat.
hes 19 and acts like a spoiled 10 year old, and even then im sure a majority of 10 year olds are a lot less awful than him
i used to give him the benefit of the doubt, but hes just not worth it any more, hes overall pretty terrible and bratty.
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I'm pretty sure he also said 'Everything happens for a reason' on the topic of rape.
He's really not a nice kid, he's a brat. I was more apologetic about him 3 years ago when all this stuff hadn't gone down but since then he's become a pop diva.
But yeah, nothing new here really. It's pretty much the standard course of action for a teen-pop megastar.
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Justin Beiber has tons of fans, makes music loved by many (but not me -_-) and has huge internet fame.
And what do I have?
BALLS.
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Music lost all originality when Nicki Minaj and THIS guy came along. The only well known kid under 10 worse than Bieber is Honey Boo Boo. I mean she THROWS things at adults and gets away with it!
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Music lost all originality when Nicki Minaj
badmouth nicki minaj one more time see what happens u scrub
also honey boo boo is doing nothing wrong. her parents are giving their money to charities (lgbt mostly iirc?) and trust funds for their children. theyre doing literally nothing wrong except maybe living a little differently than you do and spending the money they get for it on helping others and securing their futures. dont talk bad about them either lmao.
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i just remember hearing that he frequently turns up late to gigs to play video games instead or something, idk.
which is kind of saddening that he can afford to do that because he knows that his fans will all coddle him and make excuses and keep buying his stuff.
and i hear other stuff about him here and there... obviously SOME of it is going to be entirely fabricated because thats what happens with popular celebrity people, but all of it being false seems less and less likely.
also.
i remember hearing about the "rape happens for a reason" quote though sighs loudly.
hes a teenager, id be surprised if he wasnt a dickwad.
doesnt change the fact that he has a huge young fanbase who hang onto his every word and excuse all of his bad actions though.
He made tattoos seem less edgy and cool. Didn't think it could be possible but somehow he ruined it....
oh man if you think that then you havent seen pictures of some* of the tattoos that people have gotten.
*most