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Pokémon Animé => TV Series => Topic started by: Captain Jigglypuff on February 21, 2013, 15:11
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With the next gen coming out in October, it is obvious that a new region will appear. What are your predictions? Mine are that Ash will travel with some older Pokemon left at Oak's as well as using the one's left with Juniper. I think Muk, Heracross, Buizel, Gible, Corphish, Glalie, and Torkoal should be regulars. I'd also say Bulbasaur but knowing how it keeps the peace for the wild water and grass Pokemon, it's not very likely. Also, seeing a pattern as to how Ash always has a region's Grass start, he is definitely going to catch a Chespin. I also think Iris and Cilian will continuetravelling with Ash and maybe Ash'll give Iris his Gible since it wants to get stronger and would seem like a good member of her team. What do you think?
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Hehheh, I debated on making such a topic. XD
Ash still being 10 and the main character is a given. I'm certain the current Plasma arc will not build up to Ash's end. I'm also certain Pikachu will be the only Pokemon he'll take to the new region, as his team needs the space to show off new Pokemon. Maybe a one off like Aipom if any of Ash's Pokemon has a new evolution in the 6th gen. With Charizard returning soon, I'm hoping that maybe his training has finished in the Chariwhatchamacallit Valley and at least gets Oaked so we at least see him more (And for that matter, an episode where we see Ash see all his Oaked Pokemon, which was skipped last time).
What I find interesting is if the changes in Unova will continue, evolve or be scrapped. Namely a few things like his traveling buddies, will they be based on 2 Gym Leaders again, go back to using the trainer girl of the generation and if so, have a new Contests thing for her to do, will Cilan go with Ash, or will the writers be desperate to get Brock back? And then there's the TRio, will they continue their more serious attitude or revert back to their comedic ways? Will Giovanni and pals have a new plan in the region, and will they feud over the new region Team, a missed opportunity in Unova? And the anime in general, will it continue the fast pace in Unova where Ash got all his badges in no time and resorted to filler arcs, or will it slow down this time?
And of course the most important question of them all, what the hell is Ash going to crossdress as this time? XD
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I wish that the anime would just let go of Ash. I wish that the star of the show would be the trainer boy/girl in the games, and his or her rival would be in there too, so we could play our games parallel with the anime. Ash may have been the hero of our childhoods, hard for the anime to let go, but oh boy some changes have to be made. The anime just seems so alien to the games... I for one would love a closer story. But this isn't a prediction and it's not very likely. It's a nice direction for the anime to head in, though. Ash, haven't you seen enough?
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Well it looks like they're hyping up the whole Plasma vs Rocket thing so I guess that's on the cards.
Genesect vs Mewtwo, Rocket vs Plasma
I daresay that the whole of the Gen VI franchise so far has a real 'throwback' feeling to it, and I'm not complaining at all.
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Hmm, not quite a prediction, but apparently Brock and Misty are to return in next week's Charizard episode in a flashback cameo (As well as Oak showing up). Could be nothing, but maybe they could be testing the waters to see how audiences react to a Brock and Misty cameo for future real cameos? Maybe some 1st Gen influence in the 6th Gen perhaps (I know the plot of next week's ep is Ash and co attending a Kanto Festival, but you got all this and Mewtwo coming back for movie 16 too, plus all this fuss over Eevee's new evolution, so....)?
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Yeah as I said there seems to be some real 'retro' hints coming in lately. It feels like GameFreak has remembered its roots a little more and is trying to involve more old in the new, as things have changed pretty dramatically since Gen I and II.
I'm pretty hopeful for this, I don't want to see pointless nostalgia pandering ("Woo look, here's some old Pokemon again!") but I'd really like to see them capture the old spirit of Gen I and II and somehow bring that into the future.
Unova has been a very industrial region compared to other regions, I'd like to see them go back to basics somewhat and take a more natural approach. I feel that since Gen III onwards they lost that connected, cooperative spirit that you could feel in I and II.
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Unova has been a very industrial region compared to other regions, I'd like to see them go back to basics somewhat and take a more natural approach. I feel that since Gen III onwards they lost that connected, cooperative spirit that you could feel in I and II.
I have a feeling that's what X and Y are going to be about. Introducing a lot of old Pokemon, they started it with Black and White 2 (am I right? Not played that game). But with Sylveon, the Pokemon in the trailer and the fact it's all released on pretty much the same day globally.
What I like about the anime in Unova is the increase in battling. I wasn't too keen on the constant filler all about one Pokemon episodes and have definitely felt and increase in the number of episodes that are purely battling episodes. This did make the series go a lot faster than usual though.
However, I dislike the massive increase in rivals. I like the idea of all the rivals coming together, but I definitely want Gary back. I would also like the older ones to come back; Richie and Harrison (is it?) My favorite episodes are the match in the Johto Conference between Gary and Ash.
I'd keep Ash, but I do think he should win the league. Ash's constant "I WANT TO EXPLORE AND MEET NEW FRIENDS" theme will stay with him even if he becomes champion of the new region (The UK speculated -.-.). Plus, I can picture him running into 7th region being all cocky and losing to a new trainer with Pikachu. Yeah, I watched Pikachu vs Snivy in the first episode today.
There's been too many female characters. I think they've had enough time to play around with them by now. I think it should definitely be May or Dawn, since they don't stick to just one type of Pokemon. Preferably Dawn since May comes with Max -.-. Plus with Dawn even the newer viewers will be quite familiar with her.
I think Brock's better than Cilan. Cilan's fancy words get irritating and I can imagine kids being like "lol wut did he just say?". While Brock would just openly say something.
Team Rocket? I like their darker way and the fact they don't show up failing to catch Pikachu every episode. Gives them more the evil look they were given in the first few episodes of Pokemon.
I like the nostalgia coming back, I just don't want them to overdo it and make sure they balance it out. Hoenn seems ages ago now. I watched Advanced Battle and was like; "omg the theme tuneee".
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I have a feeling that's what X and Y are going to be about. Introducing a lot of old Pokemon, they started it with Black and White 2 (am I right? Not played that game). But with Sylveon, the Pokemon in the trailer and the fact it's all released on pretty much the same day globally.
What I like about the anime in Unova is the increase in battling. I wasn't too keen on the constant filler all about one Pokemon episodes and have definitely felt and increase in the number of episodes that are purely battling episodes. This did make the series go a lot faster than usual though.
However, I dislike the massive increase in rivals. I like the idea of all the rivals coming together, but I definitely want Gary back. I would also like the older ones to come back; Richie and Harrison (is it?) My favorite episodes are the match in the Johto Conference between Gary and Ash.
BW2 had older Pokemon from the start to freshen it up I guess, since BW only had Unova Pokemon until you beat the Elite 4. Bit too samey if you have the same team as your BW team I think (Though it was samey being the same region, but yeah).
I'd like to see Rivals like Richie back, but I'd like them to keep having new ones too. Hoenn was missing a rival for Ash, so I don't want them to repeat that mistake.
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Ritchie, Harrison, and Paul most definitely should make a return. Trip is most likely to appear in the next series as he DID say next time he and Ash met, he (Trip) would win and Trip wants to become stronger. Trip was a good rival and my favorite because he had a similar attitude that Paul has but more personable and helpful.
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Speaking of returns, it looks like Clair will be making an appearance (http://25.media.tumblr.com/a50861c58b997e9425d930297c495460/tumblr_mk3s8zG0vj1rsrk2xo1_500.jpg) in the upcoming filler arc after Episode N, while Ash is pictured with a Butterfree. Hmmm...
Well, guess whatever the shipping for IrisXClair is will explode further soon. XD
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I speculate that there will be massive deconstruction of the anime series. I'll give you a couple of speculations:
- Ash will realise that he will not be able to catch them all, and that he will never become Pokemon master.
- His Pokemon will be kidnapped by worse people than Team Rocket, and will be abused to the point that Ash breaks into tears. Ash will do anything to get his Pokemon back, even risking his own life.
- His partners will be from not just single moms, but also in poverty. One of them is an orphan. Each has their own backstory. They can't afford to even buy food for their Pokemon.
Yeah, I want Pokemon to be grittier and darker. Game Freak will return to their roots. Game Freak will deconstruct their games too.
I also hope he'll meet Misty again.
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I speculate that there will be massive deconstruction of the anime series. I'll give you a couple of speculations:
- Ash will realise that he will not be able to catch them all, and that he will never become Pokemon master.
- His Pokemon will be kidnapped by worse people than Team Rocket, and will be abused to the point that Ash breaks into tears. Ash will do anything to get his Pokemon back, even risking his own life.
- His partners will be from not just single moms, but also in poverty. One of them is an orphan. Each has their own backstory. They can't afford to even buy food for their Pokemon.
Yeah, I want Pokemon to be grittier and darker. Game Freak will return to their roots. Game Freak will deconstruct their games too.
I also hope he'll meet Misty again.
What is wrong with you? lol It's like you have this unhealthy obsession with being 'dark and gritty'. If GameFreak returned to their roots they would be publishing zines about arcade games.
Just watch Dexter or something. This is Pokemon, not Saw.
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What is wrong with you? lol It's like you have this unhealthy obsession with being 'dark and gritty'.
The sixth gen anime should be like Episode N transposed to an entire season. Do you think Episode N is "dark and gritty" by your standards?
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The sixth gen anime should be like Episode N transposed to an entire season. Do you think Episode N is "dark and gritty" by your standards?
No, dark and gritty by my standards probably wouldn't get televised, which I definitely would not want to see. Pokemon is fine how it is, it doesn't need to be more 'gritty'.
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Well today's Japanese ep was certainly interesting. Looks like TR is back to their comedic ways, even "blasting off again" once again. Whether they keep at it or go back to being "serious" remains to be seen.
The new ending theme is worth looking out. Plenty of fanservice in that one (Many characters like Dawn, May, Misty Max, Brock, even rivals like Gary, Paul, etc. are in it. ;) Oh, and our new Eeveelution too....)
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Oh, and our new Eeveelution too....
Damn, I heard about the news but didn't bother to check it out as I'm unusually following the dub. ^ That made me look though, too bad there are no hints of it's type (Damn!) but I liked the very end, looks like it was inspired by the Pokemon-gl site with the Pokeballs flying around.
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Damn, I heard about the news but didn't bother to check it out as I'm unusually following the dub. ^ That made me look though, too bad there are no hints of it's type (Damn!) but I liked the very end, looks like it was inspired by the Pokemon-gl site with the Pokeballs flying around.
Yeah, I looked this morning (well 3pm when I got up) and it gave no hints away. It was still pretty cool to watch.
What do you guys think they'll do with the starters this time? Will Ash catch all of them or be spread out like in Hoenn and D/P
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Again, depends on what Ash's new BFFs are. If its the female trainer of X and Y, then I'm sure she'll have one of the starters, being a beginner trainer herself like May and Dawn before her. Cilan could end up with the grass starter if he sticks around, don't see Brock getting a starter if he comes back, considering he rarely gets any new Pokemon, and if its a new guy, then depends on his backstory/likes/dislikes/whatever.
Just as long as Ash's Pokemon get more development this time, as his Unova Pokemon barely got any...
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I hope cilan isnt there.... he was just weird :P
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If Cilan leaves, I will automatically hate whoever replaces him, like when Misty left and I found May insufferable for most of the Hoenn series.
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If Cilan leaves, I will automatically hate whoever replaces him, like when Misty left and I found May insufferable for most of the Hoenn series.
Even if Brock came back?
What's it you like about Cilan? I don't connect with him really..
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If its back to misty brock and ash ill watch it
i just can't stand cilan and iris
sappy sniped me T_T
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Even if Brock came back?
What's it you like about Cilan? I don't connect with him really..
Brock was boring. And did nothing, ever. Cilan started off as a competent battler, at least, entering tournaments and even beating Ash's rival before he did himself. I just found him interesting as a personality more than anything. He's a little whimsical, his quirks are more interesting and less overdone than Brock's, and he has genuine flaws that make him even more interesting, whereas Brock had no flaws at all to give depth to his character.
Cilan was handled really badly during the series, which is why I don't want him to leave yet. He's been neglected for a lot of battles and captures in favour of Iris, his progression as a Pokémon Connoisseur has been nonexistent, there was very little resolution involved between him and Burgundy because they battled once, and he has lacked significant focus episodes that Iris seems to be drowning in for no reason. And he's still far more interesting than Brock and Iris. I'm more than happy to see Iris leave, but Cilan has been shafted so much that I feel like him leaving would be making the writer's handling of Cilan even worse.
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You know, with all these 1st Gen throwbacks, I recently thought wouldnt it be great if the X and Y opening theme was a new version of Aim to be a Pokemon? :3 If they continue the throwbacks into the next season of course, but I think that would be pretty neat. :3
Oh, and the X and Y series is confirmed for October in Japan, so maybe hopefully we'll start getting some info/teasers soon. :)
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If Cilan leaves, I will automatically hate whoever replaces him, like when Misty left and I found May insufferable for most of the Hoenn series.
LOL, you thought May was insufferable? She was probably the most popular female lead in the anime for a long time, and she totally made up for how boring, stale and useless Misty was in the Johto arc. Pretty much the whole reason the writers decided to abandon Misty's character was because of how popular May and the Contests were.
As for Misty and Brock, I definitely don't see them returning. As mentioned, Misty was fairly disliked over the course of the Johto arc 10 years ago. People may not remember this anymore, but she was poorly received over that entire arc and that's why everyone knew right from the beginning of Hoenn that she wasn't going to return. The only reason the dislike towards Misty died down in the fandom is because she's now been gone for so long it doesn't really matter anymore. Likewise Brock got really boring in DP, so 'nuff said.
It was actually the mistake of using Misty/Brock as leads that made people hate the Johto arc, which is why the writers pretty much gave up on them after that point. Misty was dropped permanently, and even though Brock stayed, he was largely treated like a background character.
So I suspect new characters like Iris and Cilan.
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Cilan will probably be replaced by Shauna from X/Y I'd imagine, she's basically May 2.0 by the looks of things. Apparently the reason Ash is normally paired with a young girl is because Ken Sugimori really enjoys drawing them, especially in swimsuits. Take that as you will.
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Its official, the series will be called Pokemon XY, and will star a certain never aging boy and his fellow mouse friend as he continues his never ending quest to be a Pokemon Master.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c267/lapras_king/ashxy_zpse20cf340.jpg)
Ah well, the red cap looks nice.
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May (in both the game and Anime) and Max were the only main characters in Pokémon to actually have a mom AND dad that are shown on screen. Think about it. Brock's dad had a second wife which really wasn't his mom, Misty's family that were shown are her sisters, Delia is single as well as Johanna, we never see Iris' family or even heard about them, and Cilian only has his brothers. What's with the absence of a dad in both the game AND Anime?!!!
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Didnt 4Kids bugger up Brock's mom by saying she was dead when she wasnt in the Japanese version of episode 5, only for her to reappear later on? ;P
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I thought the same thing but Lola is his STEP-mom.
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Bulbapedia seems to list Lola as his mother...
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Misty is probably never going to appear in the anime again, not counting flashbacks or stuff like Japanese endings showing the older cast or whatever.
Her last appearance was when the Hoenn saga ended, and that's now 3 gens ago in 2005. They purposely chose not to have her appear in DP at all despite that saga being over 190 episodes, and she hasn't appeared in Best Wishes either. Its obvious the writers are done with her.
We didn't know it at the time, but those small handful of episodes Misty got during the Hoenn era turned out to be her final episodes of the series. Back in 2005 we didn't even know that May was going to leave and get replaced only 1 year later....let alone that it would be Misty's final episodes for the next decade.
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First Footage Is Up. (http://youtu.be/9NJaOaS-UR8)
Dunno if its just me not watching BW often and only seeing weekly screencaps, but the animation looks like its taken a step up unless they just made it look like that for the trailer....
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Misty is probably never going to appear in the anime again, not counting flashbacks or stuff like Japanese endings showing the older cast or whatever.
Her last appearance was when the Hoenn saga ended, and that's now 3 gens ago in 2005. They purposely chose not to have her appear in DP at all despite that saga being over 190 episodes, and she hasn't appeared in Best Wishes either. Its obvious the writers are done with her.
We didn't know it at the time, but those small handful of episodes Misty got during the Hoenn era turned out to be her final episodes of the series. Back in 2005 we didn't even know that May was going to leave and get replaced only 1 year later....let alone that it would be Misty's final episodes for the next decade.
Misty could have a brief appearance, for one episode perhaps. May appeared in DP to enter a contest and ended up challenging Dawn. I don't see why Misty can't make an appearance when May had one sooner. But if Misty is completely gone, which is also possible, as well as May and the others, then let's feel good knowing that they can move on with their lives and grow older, hopefully, unlike Ash, unless the anime decides to bring them back for much longer and curse them once again.
Since many special things have happened with the games, and surely the anime can't fall short, hopefully there will be an Ash's Birthday episode, or something April Fools. A special occasion of some sort that has to do with one of the characters. Not just "special," because an Ash's Birthday episode would be more than that for the entire anime.
I'm hoping that the Pokémon franchise can cover up its dropping creativity with something like that, like they had done with adding fun features as a possible ulterior motive for the games and their not-so-special Pokémon, well most in my opinion.
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Give it about 3-4 years and they'll be celebrating the 20th Anniversary. Maybe then they'll do a big get together to celebrate like the Mirage Pokemon special (Even if it was made outside of Japan).
Still, interesting how secret Ash's newest BFFs has still be kept secret...
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Ash's new buddies will probably be one of the games' rival characters as well as a Gym Leader or some special figure at least. There's always something unique about a character. There has to be more of it now, since Pokémon has dropped its creativity in Pokémon basis but has increased its creativity in other aspects.
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Give it about 3-4 years and they'll be celebrating the 20th Anniversary. Maybe then they'll do a big get together to celebrate like the Mirage Pokemon special (Even if it was made outside of Japan).
The difference is the main cast was a lot smaller back during the 10th anniversary. The only older characters at the time were Misty and Tracey, and May/Max/Brock were the current cast.
By the time the 20th anniversary hits, you have like 8 older main characters off the show, plus whoever Ash travels with in XY. I don't see them bringing back over 10 characters for one special, its just too much.
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The difference is the main cast was a lot smaller back during the 10th anniversary. The only older characters at the time were Misty and Tracey, and May/Max/Brock were the current cast.
By the time the 20th anniversary hits, you have like 8 older main characters off the show, plus whoever Ash travels with in XY. I don't see them bringing back over 10 characters for one special, its just too much.
Tell that to Super Sentai who brought back 199 Rangers for 1 movie.....then again and all the Kamen Riders for another the year after. XD And yup, looks like Power Rangers will be doing something similar as well (It being its own 20th Anniversary this year).
Its more then possible, specially if its another hour long special, but we'll see...
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A poster in CoroCoro has the X and Y trainer girl. Looks like we're back to trainer girls this generation as Ash's female BFF.
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A poster in CoroCoro has the X and Y trainer girl. Looks like we're back to trainer girls this generation as Ash's female BFF.
First blonde.
Also, I really hope Clemont isn't the Cilan replacement. Bring back brock pls.
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(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c267/lapras_king/corocoro91313_zps56dde751.jpg)
Quite a bit to go from the larger more visible poster. So trainer girl, Clemont and a little girl as well. Possible the 1st four people group since AG or just the odd cameo?
Also confirmed VAs.
Rica Matsumoto (松本梨香): voice of Satoshi
Ikue Ohtani (大谷育江): voice of Pikachu
Megumi Hayashibara (林原めぐみ): voice of Musashi
Shinichiro Miki (三木眞一郎): voice of Kojiro
Inuko Inuyama (犬山イヌコ): voice of Nyarth
Yuji Ueda (うえだ ゆうじ): voice of Sonansu
Unsho Ishizuka (石塚運昇): voice of the Narrator
Mayuki Makiguchi (牧口真幸): (Prior voice of Yaoki and Taka)
Yuki Kaji (梶裕貴): (Prior voice of Virgil)
Mariya Ise (伊瀬 茉莉也)
Which kinda confirms what I spotted in the poster with Meowth, Wobbuffet's probably coming back.
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Also, I really hope Clemont isn't the Cilan replacement. Bring back brock pls.
Brock's not coming back. And considering few people liked him in Sinnoh, that's a good thing.
As for the XY group, I don't mind a group of 4 again. Its just that Bonnie (the little girl), is going to run into the same problems as Max. After a while the writers ran out of things to do with Max and he was just there, so I don't see what they can do with Bonnie that's any different.
Serena is probably going to be another May or Dawn type character I guess.