That's right, Pokemon's official Facebook page (And Pokemon Smash) announced that there would be a big X/Y related reveal next Saturday (6/4/2013).
This will probably be detailed in the Corocoro issue to follow the weekend after.
http://www.facebook.com/Pokemon
Get hype?
I hope it's worth the hype!
this had better be good pokemon
*cracks knuckles*
Hopefully a bit more then Sylveon's type I hope. XD
I suspect it'll probably be a few new Pokemon, maybe artwork for the trainers and region, and perhaps the new Team Enemy and their goal.
UPDATE
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c267/lapras_king/smash0313_zps0afb00e0.jpg)
So at least 1 new Pokemon, behind that conveniently placed question mark, but you can just barely make out the top of it.
New grass type anyone?
The big reveal will include the starter's true typing
Fennekin is Fire/Fighting
Chespin and Froakie are also Fire/Fighting
Pokemon F/F
BUT REALLY I'd hazard a guess that it's about the trainers/enemy team too! Maybe more about the legendaries? I'm pumped. So pumped.
Watch it be "X&Y will be released in 2014!"
Will they reveal a new region?
Quote from: Lord Raven on March 31, 2013, 02:11
Watch it be "X&Y will be released in 2014!"
...You nearly killed me.
On another note, is it just me or does that seem like a lure at the top? First thought for me was a Girafarig evolution, which is unlikely. It's good that the news is occurring worldwide though.
Quote from: Alpha Fenrir on April 01, 2013, 16:38
...You nearly killed me.
On another note, is it just me or does that seem like a lure at the top? First thought for me was a Girafarig evolution, which is unlikely. It's good that the news is occurring worldwide though.
Nintendo won't pull a Rockstar, don't worry.
I think it's just one new Pokemon, probably related to some previous gen Pokemon.
So apparently, there's images floating about of a new form for Mewtwo and judging by the look of them, I REALLY hope they're fake... :/
Quote from: Angelic Lapras King on April 03, 2013, 17:14
So apparently, there's images floating about of a new form for Mewtwo and judging by the look of them, I REALLY hope they're fake... :/
I agree, it looks absolutely hilariously awful. Hopefully it's just the angle or the whole thing is fake.
That "Mewtwo" is so horrible I can't even laugh. I haven't seen such a hideous turd since Origin Giratina.
...Oh. It has a body. With an oversized head. I guess that's not as bad as what I thought it was, but still. And my apologies to Origin Giratina, nothing could be as ugly as what I thought was some sort of floating serpent Mewtwo head. 'swhat I get for giving a passing glance at thumbnails.
Still hyped for Saturday, though.
That new Mewtwo floating around is bloody horrible.
i saw this new
thing
and recoiled in horror lmao what am i looking at??????
i swear if this is fake ill be so relieved please be fake please for the love of god be fake
Yeah the mewtwo 'leak' is pretty disturbing.
I think it's most disturbing because it might be true...for a number of reasons:
1) With all the X/Y hype, why would anyone bother doing something with the movie
2) One of the leaked images was also on a bag which is kind of an unusual leak
3) http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/pokemon/long.php <-- Is it just me or does this look like there are placeholders for Mewtwo formes?
I reeeaaally hope they leave Mewtwo alone. I hope this isn't why they distributed the special Wi-Fi Hurricane Mewtwo
This is becoming frighteningly more realistic.
Oh God why would you ruin Mewtwo like this.
Quote from: Turner on April 03, 2013, 18:15
3) http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/pokemon/long.php <-- Is it just me or does this look like there are placeholders for Mewtwo formes?
I reeeaaally hope they leave Mewtwo alone. I hope this isn't why they distributed the special Wi-Fi Hurricane Mewtwo
Quote from: Liam on April 03, 2013, 18:26
This is becoming frighteningly more realistic.
Oh God why would you ruin Mewtwo like this.
ZOMG MEWTHREE IS FINALLY HERE :D :D :D :D
Yeah, very good spot Turner.. frighteningly more realistic is correct. Mewtwo is one of the few legendaries whose backstory I actually find brilliant and like how GameFreak have left him.. forgotten, alone in a cave. It was one of my most favourite Pokémon growing up and.. if those leaks are true, I'm really not seeing how I'll grow to like it. Psychic/Flying perhaps with a Stat adjustment to give it Deoxys-S type speed..? Ugh.. they ruined Mewtwo as they rounded and cutened his sprite off as the generations grew old.. but this'd really disappoint me beyond a normal amount.
Well, as long as the second form isn't as... questionable as the first, I can't complain. I'm almost over the initial shock already. I always got DBZ vibes from Mewtwo, wouldn't be surprised if the second form had volcano ears.
the mewtwo thing.
what am i looking at.
oh right once my brain managed to wrap around it its... ok.
although this is me seeing it AFTER reading the comments in this topic so idk what i was expecting.
eh i could take it or leave it, but so far im not excited about this generations new pokémon/formes, confirmed or no.
Quote from: Turner on April 03, 2013, 18:15
Yeah the mewtwo 'leak' is pretty disturbing.
I think it's most disturbing because it might be true...for a number of reasons:
1) With all the X/Y hype, why would anyone bother doing something with the movie
2) One of the leaked images was also on a bag which is kind of an unusual leak
3) http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/pokemon/long.php <-- Is it just me or does this look like there are placeholders for Mewtwo formes?
I reeeaaally hope they leave Mewtwo alone. I hope this isn't why they distributed the special Wi-Fi Hurricane Mewtwo
4) Mewtwo said something along the lines of "You don't know the REAL Mewtwo yet..." in one of the teaser trailers.
5) The 13th film had those shiny Legendary Dogs that unlocked a Zoroark in BW when you transfered it from the 4th Gen games, so wouldnt be surprised if they do this to promote the 6th gen game (Though a Shiny Genesect would of been a nicer promotion... T.T)
Oh God it's like something out of a bad fanfic. I'm going to go on saying that it's not real until it's confirmed otherwise - only way I can keep my sanity. And who knows, maybe I'll have grown to like it by Saturday's reveal (unlikely).
Quote from: Angelic Lapras King on April 03, 2013, 21:12
4) Mewtwo said something along the lines of "You don't know the REAL Mewtwo yet..." in one of the teaser trailers.
5) The 13th film had those shiny Legendary Dogs that unlocked a Zoroark in BW when you transfered it from the 4th Gen games, so wouldnt be surprised if they do this to promote the 6th gen game (Though a Shiny Genesect would of been a nicer promotion... T.T)
They already gave away Extremespeed Shiny Genesect I believe.
There's supposed to be a reveal regarding the new movie in the next Corocoro which will be...next week.
On the good side, the Poster with Mewtwo on it looks exactly like...wait, I'll just show you in paint.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2e1fxw0.png)
Looking at the poster...(Original on the right) it could well be that this is a fake. I can't see them showing off Mewtwo's potential new forme using the exact same poster pose. And I don't know...the 'new form' seems to look just like Mewtwo but with bits chopped off and added in a very 'photoshop' way.
I guess it's 50/50 at this point.
Quote from: Turner on April 03, 2013, 22:04
On the good side, the Poster with Mewtwo on it looks exactly like...wait, I'll just show you in paint.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2e1fxw0.png)
A new Mewtwo movie? Is this supposed to be "Mewtwo Rises?"
And that movie has the coolest, most badass title yet: Shinsoku Genesect.
I seriously don't think Mewtwo will get a new forme after all these years. It'll alienate the Genwunners. They've already been bashing Gen 5, which was pretty decent, IMO.
I'm sitting with a 50/50 opinion on this, I'm not saying this new forme is amazing but I think people are overreacting and seeing it as worse than it really is, simply because it's Mewtwo. As much as a leak like this screams fake I can't believe people are still so quick to call witch after being proved wrong about the Keldeo posters which were made in a very similar to these ones.
So anyone got an idea of a time for this reveal? Its 4pm uk time so it must be going of a US time zone?
Quote from: ajeeth23 on April 06, 2013, 09:27
I seriously don't think Mewtwo will get a new forme after all these years. It'll alienate the Genwunners. They've already been bashing Gen 5, which was pretty decent, IMO.
Then what else would that thing be? Palkia/Mewtwo fusion?
Maybe Pokemon will pull a Zoids and create FUZORS or something....
Any moment now I take i?
am I the only one who likes the idea of a new Mewtwo form?
really?
Really?
Quote from: Ledyba on April 06, 2013, 23:21
am I the only one who likes the idea of a new Mewtwo form?
really?
Really?
Its not a looker, BUT, if it was given a 2nd good typing and some stat boosts in some areas to make our old friend close to what he was in the first gen games (the moe "powerful" Pokemon), I'd warm up to it more...
though wouldn't it be cooler if those pokemon in the posters were to scale.
i don't know about you but I can't think of anything I want more in the game than a enormous Genesect.
A Genesect in my fav colour is more then enough. ;P Just don't forget to distribute it outside of Japan Nintendo.... :/
I'm watching Smash here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W_KgsVeYIKM), if anyone else is up and can be bothered watching it. It's just fun watching the presenters being lary and having no idea what is happening. Reckon we've still got a little while before the reveal, though, it's always at the end of the episode.
I'm watching it here. Here's another link. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMYedTjvtHQ)
Bad news guys. The Mewtwo form is real. If nothing else, it doesn't look as bad as I first thought.
Bad News for who? :P
I like it!
For everyone who was posting about how much they hated it. It's growing on me already though.
It looks terrible
And vaguely cashgrabby.
It's about appealing to some sort of OMG high stat ubers, it doesn't feel like a natural development for the Pokemon
its cute except for the toes
but idk just
???? why??????
Was that literally the whole reveal?
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/dragonpika/Mewtwoconfirmed_zps36dae772.png)
Yeah.. I think I'd like it if it were something related to Mewtwo but not actually Mewtwo itself.. but bleh. It'll grow on me I guess.
Maybe it is in fact a new attempt at creating a Mew clone? That would be pretty cool, I guess.
this just popped up on my tumble news feed so uh
yeah
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/148f0dd32f87f881f8175397c9da7794/tumblr_mkuwp6uyh61r72ht7o1_400.png)
Because that went so well the first time.
well they did say in the movie that theyd spent years trying to make it and stuff
so maybe this is some kind of failed experiment or something that might be cool haha
Originally Mewtwo was rather tragic, yes?
Quote from: not sylar on April 07, 2013, 00:28
well they did say in the movie that theyd spent years trying to make it and stuff
so maybe this is some kind of failed experiment or something that might be cool haha
That would be awesome, yeah.
Also now that you've pointed out his toes, I can't unsee them..
From the horse's mouth;
QuoteWe're excited to reveal a newly discovered Pokémon! This mysterious new Pokémon looks curiously similar to the Legendary Mewtwo... Check it out and share with your friends!
Not quite saying it's Mewtwo....so maybe...something other then a new form?
Honestly thinking it would be better if it was Mewthree. The live-stream I was on speculated that it might be a female Mewtwo, but in my opinion that would kind of suck. All I know is that this is totally mucking up the fanfiction I had planned in my head.
it looks vaguely like it's half way regressed back into Mew.
Maybe it's not Mewthree. Maybe it's Mewone. That would surprise everyone.
its probably going to be s/t really Pokemon Quartzy and it'll be Mewzero and its cry is like mewtwo's cry played over itself 3 times
It can't be Mewone, Mew IS Mewone. I think it's a Rocket cloning of Mewtwo's genes, which they had collected when Giovanni had obtained Mewtwo. So, yeah, Mewthree, I guess.
But I also heard it's a new forme called Godspeed Mewtwo. o.O
Quote from: lugia95 on April 07, 2013, 00:56
Maybe it's not Mewthree. Maybe it's Mewone. That would surprise everyone.
With Mew being an impostor all this time? XD
I'm open to it being something other then a new form, I mean it could be a new Pokemon (Maybe Mewtwo wanted to play scientist again like the first movie, or a part of its body came off and mutated into the Pokemon), the Mew equivalent of Phinobe, or maybe someone's messing around with the DNA Splicers again. Who knows till Game Freak spill the beans...
Quote from: well then we'll have a tonic water party on April 07, 2013, 01:12
its probably going to be s/t really Pokemon Quartzy and it'll be Mewzero and its cry is like mewtwo's cry played over itself 3 times
its in game sprite is a badly edited jpeg sprite of a mewtwo mix they pulled from a forum that some beginner made
Quote from: Angelic Lapras King on April 07, 2013, 01:14
With Mew being an impostor all this time? XD
I'm open to it being something other then a new form, I mean it could be a new Pokemon (Maybe Mewtwo wanted to play scientist again like the first movie, or a part of its body came off and mutated into the Pokemon), the Mew equivalent of Phinobe, or maybe someone's messing around with the DNA Splicers again. Who knows till Game Freak spill the beans...
Maybe Mew was in fact Mewzero. Or maybe this is Mewonepointfive. You never know...
New trailer to the new movie coming on April 18th. So that'll be something to look out for....
It looks considerably less awful thankfully, really can't see it not being yet another bloody form though,
Maybe this is a mew from another experiment.
So Plasma make a Pokemon from DNA abuse: Genesect
Rocket square up to them and make another version of Mewtwo?
I'm liking this Plasma vs Rocket thing they're doing, but for an announcement I'm pretty disappointed. I would have preferred X/Y info instead of a new Pokemon of any kind, to be honest.
Still, it doesn't look bad...but I do feel Mewtwo doesn't need this kind of abuse.
Now that I've seen the real deal in the trailer and official art.... I like it a lot <3
Also, my personal theory is a bit of a stretch, but what if this is the Mewtwo equivalent from another dimension/timeline? You know, like the experiment had churned out a different mutation than what we've known in the main one for so long? And what if the plan is to splice the DNA of Mewtwo Classic and Newtwo? Or uh, maybe they'll just face off against each other, I dunno.
Official Pokemon.com are on the scene:
http://youtu.be/vk_YC0MXJ-0 (http://youtu.be/vk_YC0MXJ-0)
the battle scenes look nice, but ugh.. the Pokemon's reaction, the Pokemon are just standing their waiting to get hit by an attack, least a small animation of bracing themselves would be nice.
It's not as bad as I was expecting, but I'm still not digging it completely right now!
I quite like it, it's different. I shan't like it if it is a new forme, however as a new Pokémon it's like a mix between Mew and Mewtwo; Mewonepointfive anyone?
I also feel as though this new Pokémon kind of tips X and Y in favour of genetics rather than dimensions. But that's just pure speculation.
I don't think it was ever dimensions. The double helix on the Japanese logo is pretty telling.
Maybe this new Pokemon is genetically related to Mewtwo, keeping in mind the theme of the games?
(http://legendsoflocalization.com/media/earthbound/giygas/giegue.png)
I'm looking forward to seeing millions of 'em called "Giygas".
Quote from: Turner on April 07, 2013, 17:06
I don't think it was ever dimensions. The double helix on the Japanese logo is pretty telling.
Ah, I haven't seen the Japanese logo's yet... This time round I've seen a lot less Japanese info than in the past.
It's a new pokemon called Mewthree
Calling it now
Quote from: Clairefable on April 07, 2013, 18:08
(http://legendsoflocalization.com/media/earthbound/giygas/giegue.png)
I'm looking forward to seeing millions of 'em called "Giygas".
You know considering we have lots of Genesect and one extremespeed Genesect it wouldn't surprise me if Mewtwo cloned himself and made loads of minions too.
I kind of like the way this is getting everybody interested in the anime to a degree. I need to seriously catch up so I'm ready when X/Y comes out.
Corocoro leaks should be here this coming week, I'm really hoping for more X/Y info instead of just Pokemon releases.
It looks okay. Looks like its an evo of mew with more mewtwo appearances. I like the idea of it being a failed clone.
can't say i'm excited just yet :|
Yeah a large portion of whether or not I love/hate this thing depends on what exactly it is. Can't say it really looks good enough to be a Mewtwo evo, will have to wait for the announcement.
Supposedly one of the leaks called this the "eclair" form. Pastry jokes aside, Eclair also means Lightning in French.
Quote from: Lord Raven on April 08, 2013, 00:34
Supposedly one of the leaks called this the "eclair" form. Pastry jokes aside, Eclair also means Lightning in French.
Yeah I heard that too.
Considering level 100 Hurricane Mewtwo has been given away, I wonder if there's something to do with the weather in this new form. I mean..Hurricane? Just doesn't seem like a move one would particularly associate with Mewtwo. Sure there was a hurricane in the first movie, but I'm pretty sure that's just a cool coincidence more than anything else.
Or maybe we're getting le french pastry form Mewdeux
Not sure if i like it. Looks like a some sort of penis-snake mew/mewtwo hybrid
I dislike mewtwo originally anyway.
I can defiantly see the evil team to be called team autosome/chromosome/genetics or something like that, trying to manipulate the dna of all pokemon in the universe to make the most powerful pokemon to take over the world.
it looks more like super buu than what you're describing
I kinda love it. I can't really explain why though. <3
I have no idea of what my opinion of this forme or Pokemon or whatever.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2mnrla0.jpg)
This Mewthree thing looks pretty useful.
Quote from: Liam on April 10, 2013, 11:43
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2mnrla0.jpg)
This Mewthree thing looks pretty useful.
Coming soon to a Pokemon Center nowhere near you. XD
HM09 - Bottle Opener, still a more useful HM than Defog.
Quote from: Turner on April 10, 2013, 16:50
HM09 - Bottle Opener, still a more useful HM than Defog.
I agree, Defog HAS to be the lamest HM ever introduced.
Another use for Mewthree:
(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s576/Andrew_Kane/download_zpseeb97e8d.jpg)
Yup, the Pokemon Centers are not gonna run out of merch ideas... XD
The Pokemon community has apparently been taken over, CONQUERED, if you will, by a... master race of giant, spliced cats. And I, for one, welcome our Newtwo overlords... I'd like to remind them that, as a trusted Pokemon fan, uh... I could be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground psycho-caves.
EDIT: Jokes aside, apparently the new Mewtwo thing really is a new form? I can't tell if people are in denial or if whoever translated this fact goofed up. I'll be disappointed if it IS a new form and not a new Pokemon like Game Freak seems to have been stressing... but I'll still like it.
Well I went from skeptical about Newtwo to loving when I thought it was an all new pokemon. Now I know it's a new forme I don't like it very much at all, surely an awakened forme should look stronger not like a baby version!
Wait, how can people accept it as a new pokemon but not a new form? It doesn't make sense...
Yup, corocoro have said it is a new Mewtwo form...I like it, especially the loop thing on it's head.
I can't speak for other people, but if it's a new Pokemon, I feel that I can just say "Well, it looks okay, but I probably won't use it" and be on my way. But if it's a new form, then it's adding something that I don't love to a Pokemon I do love, meaning I can no longer love the full thing. I don't know if that makes any sense at all - it's kind of tricky to explain. I just feel that it's ruining a perfectly good Pokemon.
Well, nobody complained when Thundurus, Tornadus, and Landorus gained their Therian Formes, so why is everybody complaining about this new Mewtwo Form?
Because a) Those forms improved the Pokemon, rather than make them look worse, and b) More people love Mewtwo than love those three.
To me as a new pokemon it would have added a lot more to the story of Mewtwo and Mew without tainting a Pokemon that has been loved for how it is for the past 15 years. Whereas as a new forme it doesn't seem as though it can have as deep a meaning to it anymore as well as affecting the original strongest pokemon... I'm no genwunner but I do like Mewtwo as he is.
Quote from: lugia95 on April 13, 2013, 17:50Because a) Those forms improved the Pokemon, rather than make them look worse,
Subjective, much like this whole Newtwo thing. Here's a brief run-dow on my opinion of each Kami guy, in terms of design:
*Therian Landorus: Awesome, no complaints.
*Therian Tornadus: Mixed feelings.
*Therian Thundurus: Looks like a turd.
*All three before that: Super Genie Posse Bros.
So yeah I guess I just thought they were cool before the change. I always wondered if the Therian forms were planned from the start or if Game Freak took people's "WOW, they're just RECOLORS" complaints into consideration. But yeah, always wanted to get that out there.
Quote from: Lightning
To me as a new pokemon it would have added a lot more to the story of Mewtwo and Mew without tainting a Pokemon that has been loved for how it is for the past 15 years. Whereas as a new forme it doesn't seem as though it can have as deep a meaning to it anymore as well as affecting the original strongest pokemon... I'm no genwunner but I do like Mewtwo as he is.
Bolded = what I was looking forward to, too. I was always sort of indifferent to Mewtwo, though I'll try my hand at Newtwo if it's obtainable at like, level 40 or lower, otherwise what's the point in showcasing it? (Getting legendaries at a high level sort of takes the fun out of raising them. For me, anyway)
Still, I understand people's disappointment/rage/whatever. It really is a first/bold move on Game Freak's part, so I'm more curious as to how it plays into the games' plot at this point than anything.
I like how Gamefreak is all "we're totally trying to appeal to fans of the older games" when all they've done so far is annoy those fans.
I'd prefer it if Mew~ were a separate Pokemon, but when I saw it, I thought that it was going to be a forme for Mewtwo after realising that it wasn't fanmade... (oops). I don't mind the design now, but the toes really irk me. That said, I quite like the halo-circle-thingy going on on its head!
I think they need to heavily work on the theme of DNA modifications for this thing to work.
Mewtwo is basically a failed(?) experiment, which is kind of why it looks like a horrific human being. This new form is going to NEED to be some kind of other experiment Mewtwo performed on itself, or raise some kind of ethical point about DNA experiments in Pokemon.
If this just turns out to be 'super speed mewtwo' (Even though it's already faster than Genesect) I'll be pretty disappointed.
Seems like almost everything we've learned about X/Y so far is hype for the movies/shorts. I'd like some actual game information.
One thing someone on another site pointed out - new Mewtwo form could mean the return of Team Rocket. In which case, all will be forgiven.
The TR/Mewtwo connection is purely an anime story, the games don't say TR had anything to do with it.
More than slightly pissed that this thing is a form, leave Mewtwo alone fgs.
It's a new forme, it's confirmed.
Quote from: lugia95 on April 13, 2013, 18:54
I like how Gamefreak is all "we're totally trying to appeal to fans of the older games" when all they've done so far is annoy those fans.
to be fair, there are elements of that part of the fanbase that won't be satisfied with anything less than a magical game cart that travels them back 15 years where they can play the original games for the first time ever. Seemingly they're usually the group telling us pokemon is rubbish now every new gen whilst looking back at the first two gens as if they were showcases of undeniable perfect designs (whilst strangely being immune to criticisms they give newer gens - Pokemon not based on animals!) I'm *not* saying you shouldn't be allowed to critise new gens - I will too, the new Eevee is awful but you know with every new generation it does seem to bring us 'pokemon sucks now' whilst the games seem to sell massive numbers and gains new fans.
As an fan of older games, and been playing for the last 15 years, I personally like the Newtwo and been liking it even more since I first saw it. Others in my category don't, and that's fine and a legit opinion. Tough I'm not really bothered that they've decided to expand on the 'Sacred Cow' 1st Gen Pokemon. In fact I like anything that takes older Pokemon and give them a fresh approach, be it pre-evos, evos or new forms.
I'm the other way around I guess.
Gold will always be my favorite game, part nostalgia and partly because I think the music, the region etc. etc. was just really well executed. HG/SS was like a dream come true but even with HG/SS I still regularly go back and play Gold.
With that said, I'm obviously really excited for X/Y, I don't like this new Mewtwo form much (Although it largely depends on how they explain the form) but I think Sylveon looks good.
Stuff like 'genwunner' 'nostalgiagoggles' or whatever people like to throw around is a load of crap really. It's just a knee-jerk reaction to the fact that there will always be some people who tell you x is better than y because they grew up with it. This is just part of life and happens with everything, it shouldn't be a prompt to give you a chip on your shoulder about the older games. I think every Pokemon game has been fantastic and entertaining as hell.
We're all Pokemon fans here, so don't worry that you might be seen as a 'genwunner' or something, it's silly to let people try and shame you for liking something because they think you might be associated with a certain type of person. It's like assuming someone is a terrorist because they wear a burqa.
^
I want to fully and completely apologies if my post came across as concending or arrogant.
I don't think people shouldn't be able to like something, course not, that'd be silly. Be it or old or new games. Nor should people be unable to dislike new Pokemon. my point was more to parts of the fanbase who GF can't seem to please.
I wasn't trying to associate fans or those with preference to older games/pokemon with 'genwunners' at all.
Quote from: Ledyba on April 14, 2013, 17:20
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I want to fully and completely apologies if my post came across as concending or arrogant.
I don't think people shouldn't be able to like something, course not, that'd be silly. Be it or old or new games. Nor should people be unable to dislike new Pokemon. my point was more to parts of the fanbase who GF can't seem to please.
I wasn't trying to associate fans or those with preference to older games/pokemon with 'genwunners' at all.
Oh no it's not a reference to you at all, the 'genwunner' thing has been thrown around the internet a lot lately (Not as much on PKMN.NET thankfully). All it does is seek to create a divide between the older and newer fans, suggesting that there can be no middle road and that disliking something new means that you 'HATE ALL POKEMON GAMES PAST GEN I'.
Quote from: Turner on April 14, 2013, 18:14
Oh no it's not a reference to you at all, the 'genwunner' thing has been thrown around the internet a lot lately (Not as much on PKMN.NET thankfully). All it does is seek to create a divide between the older and newer fans, suggesting that there can be no middle road and that disliking something new means that you 'HATE ALL POKEMON GAMES PAST GEN I'.
This is my biggest issue with a lot of people on other forums who throw such around like it's gospel; if you don't like an aspect of the more recent games, you're a 'genwunner' and thus your opinion is moot. It annoys me to no end because a lot of valid points get lost in the abyss after being branded such. It's the same on the flip side of the coin, it's just people being ignorant and really, discriminating such without considering the reasons behind opinions.
Whilst I've warmed to the new design, I don't like that they've made it a forme at all. The 'tail' to the head is a really cool concept, I imagine they'd put the man-made umbilical cord to the back of the head to feed it's brain more efficiently whilst the neglect of the rest of the body has caused a proportion mutation compared to the 'original' Mewtwo forme; it's far closer to Mew's. There are little bits I dislike still, such as those utterly bizarre toes, but on the whole it's cool.
I just don't like how they're now taken, in my eyes, the best original concept and added to it when they really didn't need to. If anything, it kind of 'corrects' things as I think they've smoothed and 'rubber'd things off like they've done for a LOT of Pokémon, but I'd have much rather they'd left Mewtwo as he was sprited to be in Red/Blue;
(http://pkmn.net/sprites/rb/150.PNG)
There he looks like the raw, mutated experiment that he is. I'd have rather they left him as such, dis-proportioned, ugly and yet so beautiful. Whilst this kind of looks like an attempt to return him to his original form, pun intended, it kind of doesn't make up for what they've done to Mewtwo over the past 5 Gens for me. I'd have much preferred they'd created this new Mewtwo and given it a new backstory, such perhaps as being a failed attempt to build a new Mewtwo to go with Plasma's story of rebuilding Genesect. Hm.
I just can't quite work out where this is going to fit in.
I mean..new form normally means new ability/new stats.
On the trailers, we saw ordinary Mewtwo outspeeding extremespeed Genesect to save Ash and co. as far as base stats go, Mewtwo is faster than Genesect, so I guess this isn't an 'extremespeed' form because it would serve little purpose.
You could say they'd shift Attack/Sp. Attack but most of the moves used by 'Newtwo' in the trailer seem to be special attacks rather than physical ones and I'm not sure how a stat divide like this would really lend itself to an anime where these things aren't immediately visible.
I think at the moment, as far as my imagination goes the only way they can make this new form interesting is if they say it's a Team Rocket experiment created to fight Team Plasma's experiment - and that X/Y features Team Rocket fighting Plasma for world domination.
With the double helix in the Japanese logo, the X/Y theme and Mewtwo/Genesect's resurrection, it does seem like we're going to be seeing DNA themes. I know Sugimori said he really likes the idea of being able to fuse two Pokemon together.
Maybe Newtwo is the fusion between Mew and Mewtwo, kind of like how Black Kyuurem and White Kyuurem are alternate Kyuurem forms...but effectively are a combination of two Pokemon.
Team Rocket showed interest in DNA experiments, and Genesect is a resurrected fossil Pokemon genetic modifications.
I think that'd be a really cool theme to pursue.
On the upside, it means we will be able to catch Mewtwo in game, rather than having to faff around with two DS's transferring Mewtwo to get the dex entry.
^ Speaking of which, PLEASE give us a new way of obtaining Manaphy, GameFreak.
If you want Manaphy right now, you need Pokemon Ranger plus D/P/Pt (Other games won't work I don't think) - and it's only 1 per cart. You can breed Phione, but not evolve into Manaphy.
I'm pretty sure Manaphy is probably the hardest to obtain Pokemon right now.
Quote from: Turner on April 15, 2013, 00:35
^ Speaking of which, PLEASE give us a new way of obtaining Manaphy, GameFreak.
If you want Manaphy right now, you need Pokemon Ranger plus D/P/Pt (Other games won't work I don't think) - and it's only 1 per cart. You can breed Phione, but not evolve into Manaphy.
I'm pretty sure Manaphy is probably the hardest to obtain Pokemon right now.
Having been reminded that, I have to agree with you. Things happen to game cartridges and that one chance could get erased pretty quickly.
Back on topic of Newtwo. The more I see it the more it grows on me and the more I hope it is an earlier version of Mewtwo. Maybe Newtwo is what they originally achieved with Mew's DNA and they continued to experiment with it until they got Mewtwo.
That's actualy a good idea. I never thought of that.
Could this be Mewthree?
I mean, Newtwo would be called like that. Just speculating.
New Mewtwo has a female voice actor. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rTyPZGdEyyc)
The plot thickens.
There's also Sylveon doing some funky psychedelic stuff at the end.
Well Mewtwo is genderless, so it can have whatever voice it wants... XD
Hang on, there is a chance that it couldn't be Mewtwo after all.
Quote from: Angelic Lapras King on April 19, 2013, 11:19
Well Mewtwo is genderless, so it can have whatever voice it wants... XD
[spoiler]Mew will also make a guest appearance with the voice of Dan Green.[/notreally]
Okay so let me say a little bit here. Firstly it looks like the new form is definitely Mewtwo if anyone watched the trailer.
But, what I want to talk about is Sylveon. Now, there is a guy who posts on a Spanish Pokemon fansite who leaked the B/W starters and Mewtwo's new form (Well, he said 'It's not fake', and it wasn't). He had an insider in GameFreak who was shortly fired after the B/W starters scandal.
Anyway, basically he said he thinks Sylveon might be flying type; and then afterwards said that he is going to reveal something on his twitter on Sunday about Sylveon's type because apparently it's been kept heavily under wraps by GameFreak and he's been wanting to leak it for a while now.
A lot of people are saying it's flying type because of his first statement, but his second statement contradicts it. Now that we've seen Sylveon doing some kind of cosmic power I'm really thinking this will be a new type.
Who knows though. They're going to have to explain the magic at least at somepoint.
QuoteHe had an insider in GameFreak who was shortly fired after the B/W starters scandal.
Oooh do tell more please. Never heard of this Scandal.
Quote from: Ledyba on April 19, 2013, 23:36
Oooh do tell more please. Never heard of this Scandal.
It was called Wottergate (From Oshawott) or something, I'm not going to name names of any external sites but it caused a small storm at the time and nobody believed it, but yes it was revealed to be true. If you google Wottergate you'll find a few different blogs/sites/etc. on the matter
Quote from: Turner on April 20, 2013, 00:03
It was called Wottergate (From Oshawott) or something
Wottergate? Wow, this must be serious or something.
I'll google it later.
Quote from: Utack and Swampy on April 19, 2013, 21:04
[spoiler]Mew will also make a guest appearance with the voice of Dan Green.[/notreally]
Dawww... I wanted Dan Green Mew. It sounds so sexy, it makes my eyes bleed clear.
So, that Mewtwo's gettin' a new form, wouldn't it be fair for Mew to have a new form also?
Mewtwo's form looks... cuter than his original form... so...I was thinkin' for Mew's form to be... ferocious?
Maybe have Mew turn into a pink and blue raptor-thing? A giant dragon who rips apart stuff or somethin'?
Just kiddin'. That sounds like a terrible idea. :3
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/c/c1/M16_poster_alternate.png)
And the poster now has Mewtwo written on it.
Though how many jokes are there's going to be of it having an ass for a head, given the tail is now on the back of its head...
Quote from: Dragonpika on April 19, 2013, 10:25
New Mewtwo has a female voice actor. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rTyPZGdEyyc)
The plot thickens.
There's also Sylveon doing some funky psychedelic stuff at the end.
english dub'll have mewtwo with a male voice, though, i bet
Quote from: Shaymin on April 22, 2013, 18:14
english dub'll have mewtwo with a male voice, though, i bet
She's a man in America!
Enough said, if that's what's going to happen...