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Title: Help me with my first 6th gen team
Post by: Mightyenapup on June 28, 2014, 21:10
I only have a few days to finish putting together my team. I've dabbled in competitive battling on Showdown in the past, but haven't made a 6th gen team yet, so I'd like some guidance this time. I don't care about tiers, since this is just for a battle between me and my friend.

It should also be noted that I'm breeding everything myself, so legendaries are pretty much out. Also some items won't be available either.

What I have so far:
Kingdra (F) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SpDef
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Waterfall
- Substitute

(Still building) Lucario (M) @ Lucarionite
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SpAtk
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Earthquake

I tend to like sweepers, but I want to make sure I don't overdo it. (I mean I already have two, whoops.) And there are some sets that I would like to reuse, but can't because of version-exclusive attacks and such.

I'm also leaning towards Amoonguss as a wall, or maybe Forretress for hazards.

Thanks for any help!
Title: Re: Help me with my first 6th gen team
Post by: SaRo|Rapidash on June 28, 2014, 21:39
I'll go over this in more detail later, but for now I'll suggest one thing;

Kingdra's ability, swift swim, is pretty useless if it's not being used either on a rain team or to counter rain, which isn't really common enough to need a dedicated counter anymore. For this reason, I would either add Politoed or change Kingdra's set.

If you opt for Politoed, I would suggest either:

Politoed @ Choice Specs
Modest nature
252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Speed
-> Hydro Pump
-> Ice Beam
-> Psychic
-> Focus Blast / HP Grass

Or, if you'd rather go more bulky;

Politoed @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Speed
-> Scald
-> Protect
-> Perish Song
-> Encore / Toxic / Hypnosis

Both with drizzle, of course, as that's the only reason to use Politoed.

If, however, you don't want to use Politoed and would rather change Kingdra's set, I'd recommend;

Kingdra @ Scope Lens
Modest Nature
252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Speed
Ability: Sniper
-> Focus Energy
-> Hydro Pump
-> Draco Meteor
-> Hidden Power Fire

Which, when you use Focus Energy has a 100% crit rate, which therefore means Draco Meteors SpA boosts are ignored, meaning you can spam a 130 Base Power STAB with a 2.25x multiplier thanks to sniper.

This Kingdra appreciates Sticky Web support, so if you opt for this version I would suggest Galvantula, who is often used as a lead, and runs;

Galvantula @ Focus Sash
Timid Nature
252 SpA / 252 Speed / 4 HP
Ability: Compound Eyes
-> Sticky Web
-> Thunder
-> Bug Buzz
-> Volt Switch

Which plays by using Sticky Web first, then either Volt Switching or using an appropriate STAB move.

Hope that's been helpful, I'll add more later if I think of anything but I think that should give you somewhere to go for now
Title: Re: Help me with my first 6th gen team
Post by: Raphetty on June 28, 2014, 22:08
I don't think Earthquake is KO-ing much that Mega Lucario's other moves can't, and most importantly you're not doing much to bulky flying types, especially the common fire/flying combination, so I'd probably go with Stone Edge.

I will recommend sets for Amoonguss and Forretress, but I'm not going to recommend Pokémon because I feel that should be a personal decision. Here you go:-

Amoonguss @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
- Spore
- Giga Drain
- Stun Spore / Sludge Bomb
- Foul Play / Sludge Bomb

Use Stun Spore if you use Sleep Clause, otherwise it's obviously not needed.

Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
Sassy Nature
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
- Rapid Spin / Volt Switch
- Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Toxic
- Gyro Ball

Gyro Ball can also be replaced with Volt Switch if using Rapid Spin, if so use a Calm nature. I figured your friend might not be using hazards though. I would recommend using Spikes on this, and having a separate Pokémon for Stealth Rock (plus Roar/Whirlwind/Dragon Tail to rack up damage), but if this is your only hazard setter then Stealth Rock is fine.
Title: Re: Help me with my first 6th gen team
Post by: SirBlaziken on June 29, 2014, 02:07
Quote from: Raphetty on June 28, 2014, 22:08
I don't think Earthquake is KO-ing much that Mega Lucario's other moves can't, and most importantly you're not doing much to bulky flying types, especially the common fire/flying combination, so I'd probably go with Stone Edge.

Erm... I think it should run Crunch to deal with gengar/mega gengar, latios, stuff like that. Also, if this is showdown OU, you're not going to be using Mega Lucario.

Here's a regular Lucario:

Lucario @ Life Orb
Justified
Jolly
252 Attack 252 Speed 4 Defense/Special Defense
-Crunch
-Extremespeed
-Close Combat
-Swords Dance

The lucario goes well with brokeos:

Latios @ Life Orb/Choice Specs
Levitate
Timid
252 Special Attack 252 Speed 4 (anywhere else but attack)
-Psyshock/Psychic
-HP Fire
-Surf/Roost
-Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor

If you use Specs, go with draco meteor. If LO, use dragon pulse.

If you use these two, don't use kingdra, because of fairy punching a good sized hole in your team.
Title: Re: Help me with my first 6th gen team
Post by: OpalRhea on June 29, 2014, 02:25
Blaze, this is for against their friend. In game. They're breeding everything themself. Things aren't banned in game, and running legendaries is an iffy prospect
Title: Re: Help me with my first 6th gen team
Post by: SirBlaziken on June 29, 2014, 02:32
Whoops. Well, the info was good, just wrong timing. If only we all could RNG a HP Fire Timid Latios *sighs*. Ignore me.