Members of PKMN.NET,
As you will likely notice by the time you read this, I am no longer a staff member on this site and forums. Because this is a big step, I'd like to say a few things to explain myself and hopefully prevent needless speculation.
First, I'm sure this decision will come as a surprise to many, but it is something that has been approaching for a while. The site work had stopped being fun for me and has turned into a job of sorts that entailed a lot of responsibilities, dealing with abuse and taking on more work solely because I'm the only who'd do it, while my time was and is becoming more limited. At work I get paid for it, yet here I've needed to accept more for no gain for me.
The past year has amplified that, where I still find myself often being singled out for bad decisions made together, with apologies intended for all being received by and seen by someone else, without me ever getting any apologies. There has only been one, which I still appreciate. That person knows who I'm talking about and how much it meant.
Because my workload is still sizeable - more than other staff put in at this point in time - work on the site has already become stressful, and the opinions and personalities of other people on the site - both staff and normal members - have been clashing more often. All of that has changed my view of the site such that more often, the work that needs to be done is a chore I'm not willing to do considering what the return is for it. It's unpaid work that doesn't benefit me in any other way, except that I get grief for it whether I do something right or not or even when I don't do it. I've often felt I'm expected to put in the amount of work expected for a salaried job in my free time.
This has created friction and a lot of recent discussions have, in part, centered on this. This has been combined with the issue of care for the site. In a sense, I care for it deeply. I want it to do well and I want to see it improve. Many of you probably doubt this, but those I've worked with can confirm that. That's the reason why I was willing to do more - because it would benefit the site. People didn't always help me there, I feel, sometimes organising things behind my back that should be shared (and that I would have shared) when my opinion on the matter differed.
These discussions and arguments have been distracting me a lot, to the point where they've been affecting my personal life and health and intruded too far to matter. I'm proud of what I've helped create with the site and want it to do well, but the direction others want it to go on make it seem like that is threatened sometimes, and that hurts a lot.
Because of all the controversy created, I've decided to step back. Doing so means that I can focus on other things and other people that are more important to me and give me something back. More than I can get here now. Things I enjoy. Because PKMN.NET, you're not that. And maybe, if my influence is such a bad one on the site that it causes constant issues, then it might be better for the site's sake as well to let it go.
I can't say anything about the future of the site. After this I'm dropping all staff business, so server maintenance, code writing and updating, admin discussion organisation and all else I did will need to go to others. I don't know who that will be or who could manage, or how this will affect the site. As of right now, that's not my problem.
Rejoice, you who think I should have gone a long time ago. You won your pyrrhic victory. I hope you will enjoy it long enough. I hope it will benefit my 'baby' in the end.
well jeroen, i'm one of the people who have wanted you off for a long long time. and i've openly expressed it. but frankly, i do appreciate the work you've put into the site, just not necessarily your attitude. And even while this resignation has happened, i still have this sort of have this heavy feeling -- not one of joy or sadness, necessarily.
but prioritizing your health and personal life over this site's life -- that's the way to go. and i applaud you for that.
in some ways, i am sorry.
An admin resigning...
If you think so. If it's for the best...
Quote from: Guildguider Apprentice on February 07, 2010, 20:31
An admin resigning...
hey captain obvious, want a medal?
i assume that joeno will still be posting in topics/lurking on the forums, or is he leaving staff & the actual site now?
if you really do feel that way, then that's up to you ^^
I'm still glad with the effort you've put into the site, though :33
Quote from: b1g on February 07, 2010, 20:34
hey captain obvious, want a medal?
Come on, Riki. :/
You just never see a staff member step back these days.
So long and thanks for all the fish!
I predict that this topic will exceed 10 pages in length.
Quote from: Laprabi on February 07, 2010, 20:47
I predict that this topic will exceed 10 pages in length.
7 of which will be crack pot theories of why it should have happened sooner?
Quote from: Whiplashed on February 07, 2010, 20:51
7 of which will be crack pot theories of why it should have happened sooner?
If we want 7 pages of bans, sure.
insert comment about how it should have happened sooner so as to seem badass
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Wanna buy a ban hammer shield for £10000?
Quote from: Whiplashed on February 07, 2010, 20:57
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Wanna buy a ban hammer shield for £10000?
You can get them for free. They are called Proxies.
Quote from: Laprabi on February 07, 2010, 20:58
You can get them for free. They are called Proxies.
Dude...
Don't expose my plan for the con it really is.
as much as i disliked jeroen's time as an administrator -- i honestly think it's disrespectful that it's turning into a joke thread.
oh yeah guys, Rob stepped back. just an fyi. he just did it silently.
I'm surprised this has happened, and I think that we're gonna lose a lot due to this... but you have reasons which make this necessary, and I don't blame you for resigning your position. Hopefully things will get better for you now this isn't hanging over your head most of the time.
Aww, you've been an admin forever, sad to see you go. Can't say I've ever noticed the site blowing up, so I don't see why there were such dramas.
So one of the few things that stayed constant through my time--now more than 5 years--here has eventually changed?
Truly an end of an era, Jeroen. I have had no problems with you, even if just due to ignorance, and am sad to see you go. I've always had a high measure of respect for the little I know of you.
Quote from: Erotomania on February 07, 2010, 20:42
So long and thanks for all the fish!
I wanted to say that...
Uhm...Bye Bye I guess? I'll miss you..You were like that intimidating big brother person that seems to be all the rage, watching us from the shadows, making sure we followed the rules and such...Sorry admin-ing became such a chore for you, but I wish you best of luck in whatever your future may hold! ^-^
Wait, who owns the site now? Is Jeroen still Co-Owner, or has all the responsibility gone back to James? He's got too big for us now.
Or Mike, are you claiming ownership in this power vaccuum?
Come on guys, at least show some respect. He may not have been the best leader or whatever, but he still gave a lot to the site which should be appreciated. Whether you liked him or not, there is no doubting that he had a positive impact during his time despite the problems that did come up.
It's a shame to see you resign Jeroen, but it's understandable and I hope that things improve for you ^^.
It's taken me quite some time to think about what to post here.
I don't think there's been a topic in recent times in which we've agreed with one another Jeroen, and that should suggest that seeing your resignation should be a good thing.
But, as Muhed says, the weighty feeling I get isn't one of elation, nor is it one of sadness. That's not to say it's a feeling of complete indifference, that's the last thing it is, but it's just a very difficult emotion to describe.
QuoteRejoice, you who think I should have gone a long time ago. You won your pyrrhic victory
I won't lie - I had to wiki that to find out what it meant. By no means am I devaluing all your work that you've done - for which I (and many others,) am exceedingly grateful - but are the 'devastating losses' physical? Are you taking coding / content with you? Or do you believe that what the site is losing as a general whole is the devastating loss incurred from your departure?
Either way, I completely understand why you've left, and I'm not going to say it should have come sooner - but I am certainly suprised that it didn't. You've held out a long time under intense pressure that, for a long time, I've wondered how you've coped under.
So I guess this is a post acknowledging your work for the site, and your unrivalled determination. And a great big thank you, I guess.
I could see this coming eventually, and it's sad to see you stepping back, from an administrative point of view. I know the last months, maybe even year, have been increasingly stressful for you around here, and tensions caused within the site really haven't helped. If anything, they've made this inevitable.
But I commend you for leaving, especially if it's affecting your health. You shouldn't let anything like this get in the way of your own personal wellbeing, no matter how obliged you feel towards it. That's something I've learnt the hard way. I also respect your leaving because of how tedious it's become. You're quite right; you can do things like that and get paid for it, so why carry on with something you no longer enjoy as some sort of free service?
So thank you for making such a huge contribution to the site over the years, and for making my time here to date enjoyable. And thank you, really, for making the site what it is and has been for many.
Maybe I'll respond to more of this later, but I think this bit could do with a more immediate reply.
Quote from: The Enigma on February 07, 2010, 23:30
but are the 'devastating losses' physical? Are you taking coding / content with you? Or do you believe that what the site is losing as a general whole is the devastating loss incurred from your departure?
At this time, there is nobody with the PHP knowledge, Linux knowledge or other required knowledge to maintain the site and server active on the staff team, and so it appears unlikely that anyone will be able to add new features or repair the site or server if it breaks down for any reason. There's nobody who knows enough about the technical side of things to handle any of that. It's one of the reasons it was hard to make this decision, because it currently seems the most likely point of failure.
I was starting to address that, but circumstances forced me to make that decision now and they have left me in a state where I'm not going to do any training for the site from now on.
Sorry to see you go Jeroen.
Now, anyone who wants to become the new overlord of PKMN.NET just needs to learn the coding necessary to bring the site back from a server crash. Luckily, a lot of the content upload systems are semi-automated, but in terms of true new site content... this is the beginning of the end.
Hm...So let's see if I have this correct: Joeno is the only one around that knows how to fix the site when it gets broken, and the only one who can add new contet to the site, such as new announcements and fourm boards for the 5th generation and such?
Utack: If thats the case, then it seems pretty important that someone is found who has the same kind of knowolage and get them up to speed on the situation before somthing happens and the site goes down..Right?
Swampy: That, or we abandon ship like Richie did...
Utack: Oh...Grim Future it's looking like... :(
/me starts preparing the life rafts
If it were four years ago and I was looking ahead to what was going on here, I probably would have kicked myself in the head for going soft by way of writing the following, and I am aware that writing the following may engender some controversy seeing as I haven't been terribly active lately.
In spite of everything I might have done to irk you when I first was regular on the forums, or any doubts I might have had as to the emotional stability of the PKMN.NET community, I want you to know deep down I had the utmost respect for you as an admin, and I was foolish to assume any antipathy back then. I am aware right now that there are some people who would have wished that this had come years sooner, but as I've said before, for a member the prospect of being somehow responsible for the removal of an administrator is not one that should be celebrated.
Let this be a sombre day in the history of PKMN.NET.
QuoteAt this time, there is nobody with the PHP knowledge, Linux knowledge or other required knowledge to maintain the site and server active on the staff team, and so it appears unlikely that anyone will be able to add new features or repair the site or server if it breaks down for any reason. There's nobody who knows enough about the technical side of things to handle any of that. It's one of the reasons it was hard to make this decision, because it currently seems the most likely point of failure.
Quotethis is the beginning of the end.
QuoteUtack: Oh...Grim Future it's looking like... :(
QuoteLet this be a sombre day in the history of PKMN.NET.
...aren't you all overreacting a little?
I don't want to devalue everything that you've done for us Jeroen, but you're severely underestimating the members of this forum if you (and the subsequent three apocalpyse-fearing posters) believe that PKMN.NET will end here.
I can't put this in a sugar coated way, but there must be other people who have the same knowledge as you Jeroen. Your ICT skills are undoubtedly fantastic, and it's certainly going to effect the site - but I think this is all a bit of a fingers-up moment in Mike's direction. Kind of insulting to him to say that now that Jeroen's gone, there's NO WAY IN HEAVEN that he's going to run the site half as effectively as Jeroen.
When this site's dead and gone, you're welcome to tell me "I told you so." But I don't think for a second that this is 'the beginning of the end.' At the risk of looking disrepectful and not lingering on this topic long enough, I think it's time we started looking for someone who has this kind of knowledge to replace Jeroen's position as main coding dude.
Sure, I look like a nasty person for discussing a replacement in this very topic, but Jeroen said it himself, his position is so important to the site that we need to find one in order to avert such problems as server crashes.
I'm only a casual visitor and contributor, but it is sad to see anyone leave something that they have worked on for a long time.
Jeroen, All the best in all that you have planned (and unplanned) in your future. Hope to still see some inputs on the forums from yourself.
To the future.......!
I didn't really want to post here, undoubtedly we had our clashes in the past and undoubtedly we'd continue to have them, but despite that I've never denied that you did great things for this place in terms of technical support. Just to let you know, thanks for your hard work and I wish you all the best in the future.
Quote from: Mushroom on February 08, 2010, 01:22
Sorry to see you go Jeroen.
Now, anyone who wants to become the new overlord of PKMN.NET just needs to learn the coding necessary to bring the site back from a server crash. Luckily, a lot of the content upload systems are semi-automated, but in terms of true new site content... this is the beginning of the end.
Before we panic, I'd like to say that while I don't have a great deal of experience with apache, I'm pretty sure that recovering from a crash doesn't require any knowledge of coding, coding is likely to be for adding new content. You need someone with Unix knowledge and some experience of server management. Although he's not a staff member, you could try nutter (on IRC) seeing as he already manages one of the irc servers (storm).
Joeno cannot be replaced. Both as a coder who knows the plans and intricate details of the site, and as our friend. We are not actively looking for a replacement, and if we were, this is not the place to discuss it anyway.
I've put off posting in it because to be honest I've been shocked. This was totally out the blue and during a time I thought tensions were easing and things were laxing. Maybe I don't know the full story, you know what's best for you and if that includes giving up your postion, well all the power to you. I hope whatever path you take now treats you well and as others have expressed I'm thankful for your work as its gone a long way to establishing pkmn.net.
also, just one note:
QuoteBut I don't think for a second that this is 'the beginning of the end.'
Bingo.
whilst Jeroen was a substantial part of the PKMN.NET machine, he was not the sole worker on the site as a whole. Look around you, the site isn't excessively labled 'by Jeroen te Strake' on the content, news, whatever.
We have a team of admins that's fine with or without Jeroen involvement. Honestly, as you guys are hypering up Jeroen's departure as the end, you're forgetten those who are still here and who do still make a difference. Mike, Alex, Phil, Kay? They're fine people and they have my up most faith the site will be stable and improve.
Ok, I think I better clarify my "beginning of the end"
New content in the same layout, easy to do. Upgrades, no. Mike has always been the content guy, Jeroen the coding. We can't improve the site any more, we don't have the coding knowledge now, and even if we do, Jeroen is the one who knows his way around how he has coded most of it. Sure, James may know the basics, but it's obviously changed since he passed co-ownership onto Jeroen, and he's far too busy with his job and podcast.
Most of our members don't even care that this is happening, I reckon. So, we've got our group of dedicated members to choose from. We need someone to learn a few types of code, and, oh yeah, have ACCESS to the servers. This is at a time when it has been stated that no replacement is being searched for. So, we're down to the current staff members to keep the site running. Unless one of us learns soon, the site is gonna go down until someone knows how to fix it, and in the meantime, our casual members lose interest, thinking the site is dead.
Yes, I know I'm exaggerating, but that's only what happens if the site crashes soon. We still don't have the people with the know-how and the TIME to upgrade the site.
Sure, it's possible that everything will be fine. But this is a massive blow.
Anybody mind if I break the ice? Because I finally figured out how to word what I wanted to say here:
I can easily say that I'm going to miss you, Joeno, but I can't express the gratitude I have for you keeping the site in line for as long as you did. Not just you, but all the staff, past, present, and before my time on here who still do. I might not be a standout member myself, but I've felt for a while that I owe PKMN.net so much and would like to repay it some day.
Anyway, you're a strong person, Jeroen, and I'm sure you'll make it through wherever life takes you next. ;)
This was a huge shock to me, although I know things have been hard, I didn't ever expect Jeroen to leave his position. I totally respect his decision to leave the site and I hope/ believe that things will work out for him.
Jeroen, although I haven't spoken to you much, I am greatly appreciative (and I'm sure many other members are too) of the work you have done for the site, I wish you good luck for the future and don't forget to pop in now and then!
Quote from: Mushroom on February 08, 2010, 15:08
Most of our members don't even care that this is happening
You don't have much faith in the members do you? Most will not know this happening because they don't check this part of the site.
But I don't want to come across as being nasty or whatever, and to be honest I don't care what anyone thinks of this post but it's my opinion, but reading over what Joeno has said it seems like you don't care much for this site or want it to progress any because you know no one can do the coding for it as well as you can (I don't know if any of the staff can, I'm just going on what I've read here), and you aren't willing to show anyone how to do it or give them notes or something.
But meh it's your decision and I repsect that, I wouldn't expect you stick around if you don't enjoy it and all you get is grief off people.
But dunno if you care what I think but I've been on this for just under a year and think you have done a good job with the site (for the time I was here anyways lol)
okay i'm going to be serious.
It's a real shame to see you go Joeno. You've put a lot into this site to make her what she is today, and I applaud you for that. You've done this job despite all the arguments and horrible things people have been saying, but, health and personal life does come first. You've done this site good in your past... however long, and you were such a great admin despite what everyone says.
and that's coming from the heart.
Damn. I was definitely not expecting this to happen. :s
It's sad to see you go, because I feel I was starting to become a bit more friendly with you. Oh Well. :(
I appreciate all that you have done, and may the future be bright for you.
It's a shame to see you step down Jeroen. I am very appreciative of what you have done for the site. Thank you (to you and all other staff)) for making my time here fun =]
I didn't think you were going to step down. I probably don't know the full story though, and I do respect your decision.
Good luck and all the best with everything else. I hope things improve for you.
This, well I didn't expect this to say the least.
Thank you for all you've done, I hope that you have a happy time, out and in pkmn.
Quote from: L on February 08, 2010, 15:43
You don't have much faith in the members do you? Most will not know this happening because they don't check this part of the site.
Exactly. A major part of our member base come here primarily for the Name Rater. I don't have that much faith in finding a new Joeno, as I wouldn't expect them to have faith in me if I were in their position.
..I'm sorry that this has happened. Despite what some people might say, Joeno did a lot for this site, and he made it a much better place for some of us to grow and develop as people.
Perhaps the events that have lead to this resignation were uncontrollable, but quite frankly, if anyone had paid enough attention to realise what was happening, and they were involved, why didn't they try to help the admins and moderators?
It's our own fault Joeno has quit his long held position. I know many of you didn't necessarily like his methods, but this site wouldn't be the site I at least have grown to love, without every scrap of his hard work.
Good luck in life Joeno, and I hope truely that your love for this site, which you raised (alongside the owner. forgive me. i can't recall who it is) does not diminish, despite all the rockswe're going through.
Quote from: OpalRhea on February 09, 2010, 11:29
perhaps the events that have lead to this resignation were uncontrollable
Some, yes, but the April fools agument was controllable, if we'd been grateful for what the admins had done for us, then we would all be happy, I believed it along with others.
to be saying that you'd be missing the context, and it's the thread that jeroen posted right after that really didn't make me feel obliged to apologize. but this is not the time for that.
Sure, eventually some of the staff will have been able to learn the coding required to move the site forward, however with the time it would take to do so, we'd still have all the upgrading left to do and iron out any bugs. I live in hope that Jeroen might one day be able to be convinced to come back and help, but this isn't the time to wonder when he still is resting away from the site's tasks.
But this of course pales before the fact that one of my friends, one of the people from this site who helped me become the man I am today, felt he had to take this step. That's, like Mike said, not the type of person we could ever replace, nor ever hope to.
Wow Jeroen, after so long you've had your eventual end. It was worth your work and voice as a staff member though to speak your mind and make PKMN.NET the amazing forum it is today. During the years you have worked as an admin I'm sure many people have come to respect you not only as a member of staff, but as an individual person. Some have even come to fear your superiority or look up to you as a god.
I know I did in my earliest days...As a member of this site I'd like to say this: I tip my hat to you, good sir.
Quote from: OpalRhea on February 09, 2010, 11:29It's our own fault Joeno has quit his long held position.
Not entireley. I beleive it was Jeroen's own choice to resign, not only for reasons associated to this site but for personal matters as well. Everyone has to have their end at some point, and thus he made this decision for his own reasons. Only time will tell which admins move on next in life, and all we can do now is be proud for the long dedicated hours of devotion he gave us.
I saw this coming, but nevertheless I feel a sense of surprise and sudden sadness. I've taken some time after reading this thread to make this (very short and very very late) reply, so yeah. I really respect you as an Admin and as a person, Joeno, and though we've had our conflicts, I look upon with great respect that you've never let it cloud your judgment on me, as with everyone else. I wish you great success in your future life, and I wish that you'd drop by here once in awhile when you're free :]
Thank you for all your work Joeno, I'm sure everyone on this site appreciates it greatly even though some may not express it.
Well...I kinda saw this coming...but not this out of blue. =/ It will be sad to see you go Jeroen. You've been a huge part of this site for the most part of 10 years and really, this site would not have advanced as far as it has over the past years without the time and effort you've put in. I'd like to thank you for everyone you've put into the site since I've been.
Although you've come under a bit of tension recently with everything that's been going on, I still hope you go away feeling proud for what you've done while you've been here and how far you've brought this site.
All the best for the future Jeroen. Tot ziens. =]
Wow. It is amazing that tbh Pandemonium has seemed to put into words what I was thinking after seeing this thread. L is completely right, I almost never check this area out, although I must admit the all-caps resignation thread caught my eye. Guess I'll just say good luck to you Joeno. Hope things go well for you, and that the site can continue to grow.
It's nothing I haven't said to you personally, Jeroen, but I think it's worth responding in public as well.
This site wouldn't be a fraction of what it is now without you. I strongly suspect it would've died quietly long ago, probably around 2004.
I don't think most posters here will ever know how hard you worked. Actually, scratch that - I doubt even I really know how many hours you've poured into working on this site.
It's a genuine tragedy to see you leave. I wish you the best of luck, and hope to see you around as a friend, if not as a colleague. I hope the site can survive without you, but that's one enormous challenge right there.
I didn't expect this. Even though I haven't been on this web site for very long, I know that you probably put tons and tons of work and coffee into here, but life calls!
This is a sad moment for all of us Joeno...
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Like others have noted the site would have died a long time ago without you.....It'll be hard to find someone who can keep it alive. I hope things look better for you in the future, Joeno!
wow...I know some people didnt like you as much as others, but I never thought you would've quit over it. Not only does this make me kinda sad (because of what the future of the site might turn out to be), but it makes me kinda mad. You make it sound like PKMN.net is some monster that you created and you're glad to be rid of it. Do you really want to toss this entire site out of you're life? Well, I guesse that's up to you. So long, and if you really wat to, good riddance
^I don't really like how you've worded any of that. You can't expect everyone to stay on this site forever, staff or otherwise, so whether it's because of stress, to prioritize things in one's life, or just a personal choice, some people are simply going to leave eventually, some sooner than others. Plus, I don't think Joeno regrets all the work he's done on the site in the least, and to say that he's "tossing this entire site out of his life" is a harsh statement I feel couldn't be further away from the truth. It's more like he's stepping back.
^I'm sorry. Its just that thats what I got out of it.
Mm. I understand, but I personally believe it's more than just members giving him a hard time or whatever else it was. I mean, things build up.
Sorry for lunging at you like that, myself. ^^;
Mixed Emotions
On one hand I'm all "Yay an open admin spot", but on the other hand, you, an admin for maaaaaaaaaaany years has left. Please come back sometime soon.
Are you going to be a regular on the forums?
That doesn't mean there's an open admin spot at all. It just means that there is one less administrator on the site. It just happens to be one of the core administrators.
Quote from: MonsterMon64 on February 17, 2010, 21:24
Mm. I understand, but I personally believe it's more than just members giving him a hard time or whatever else it was. I mean, things build up.
Yeah, one thing becomes more work han you bargained for, but then you still have to work as hard for the other things you already do in your life. As life goes on you are handed more responsibilities, sometimes you have to drop some of them in order to suceed in others. That's what life is about really, balancing your responsibilities well and making hard choices.
(Of course a baby is a responsibility too, but please don't drop that. :/)
I don't think it's a joke thread. Joeno's status has five Pokeballs- a sign that he is now an ordinary member. Admins, I think, have five Master Balls as status- correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, we may not care on our heads if an admin resigned, but deep in our hearts, we do care if one is resigned. That means an open spot is left unreserved.
Who do you think would be the next admin?
are you illiterate or did you just ignore lottie's post?
Just because Joeno has resigned doesn't mean that there will be a new admin
People are forgetting this. Replacing someone like Joeno, who has done a hell of a lot for the site, is pretty much hard to do, and it's not even necessary. The site at the moment is coping without him, and I'm sure that there will always be an option for him to return when he's feeling more up to it.
As a site, despite how much of a blow this is, we have to try to continue as normal, so no thinking about promotions and that sort of thing, because that probably won't happen. The admins have already stated that they have no intention of replacing Joeno anyways.
Quote
Who do you think would be the next admin?
Actually, it's now a contest between Hammy the Loveable Hamster and a Hitler sockpuppet. I am glad to report at this stage 'Hammy the Loveable Hamster' is thrashing the sock puppet.
I actually know someone on another site called Hammie, and she's pretty cool. I'd be all for her to be the new admin!
does she ride in a wheel in a cute and persistent fashion?
What sort of contest is going on?
Quote from: Joey_Pokemon2005- 上海骑拉帝纳 on February 19, 2010, 06:19
Who do you think would be the next admin?
Whoever killed Archie Mitchell.
Quote from: Joey_Pokemon2005- 上海骑拉帝纳 on February 19, 2010, 06:19
I don't think it's a joke thread. Joeno's status has five Pokeballs- a sign that he is now an ordinary member. Admins, I think, have five Master Balls as status- correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, we may not care on our heads if an admin resigned, but deep in our hearts, we do care if one is resigned.
Um.. what?
Umm, I'll ask her if she's into that sort of stuff, but I wouldn't count on it :< She does have LOTS of hamsters though! LOOK (http://www.smogon.com/forums/album.php?albumid=2)
Quote from: Joey_Pokemon2005- 上海骑拉帝纳 on February 19, 2010, 06:19
I don't think it's a joke thread.
You haven't read the new posts have you...
i don't think any of our post-sobre lightheartedness has anything to do with the initinal aim of the topic maker. P:
Quote from: Camzoman on February 19, 2010, 18:08
You haven't read the new posts have you...
It isn't meant to be a joke thread at all.
im going to the pub to get post-sober now :D
Meh, I'm happy to see him go. Sure, hes done a lot for the site, but cmon, hes just another one of us. No need to make a big song and dance about it. The reason why I barely go here anymore because half the stuff on here isn't even about Pokémon anymore. Its all about adminship and how Joeno has put so much effort into this site and how he is leaving. OH NO! What will my life be like without him? I don't care what you guys put in reply to this, or even remove it. I probably won't even see it. All I'm saying is that why make SUCH a big deal out of a member "resigning". Even that is a term I hate - this isn't a job, its a forum, its not like hes resigning from a job.
Get a grip on yourselves people...this site is meant to be FUN.
He made this site possible-for him it was a lot like a job! He isn't resigning from the site, he's resigning as an admin. He'll still visit from time to time I expect, but not in the capacity he does now with regards to running it. This is very different to just you or me quitting.
And because of that I can only say Thankyou and Good Luck to him!
I got three words on Joeno's resignation: I don't care.
What I DO care is that there won't be a new admin who will maybe have the same capabilities as him.
Quote from: Joey_Pokemon2005- 上海骑拉帝纳 on March 08, 2010, 09:54
I got three words on Joeno's resignation: I don't care.
Well said. Yes.
Quote from: Deoxys2 on March 08, 2010, 19:03
Well said. Yes.
Quote from: Joey_Pokemon2005- 上海骑拉帝纳 on March 08, 2010, 09:54
I got three words on Joeno's resignation: I don't care.
This is where I get a bit.. of a pissant.
If you don't care that somebody has resigned, do us all a favour and keep it to yourself. Whether or not you actually like the fellow, or feel relieved in his absense, whatever the story may be, you're not only using a hell of a lot of his work as you roam unrestricted across this website but it's a hell of a middle finger to the person and all of his efforts. If you've got problems with the person himself, that's fair enough, just drop the unappreciative tone and at least thank the person for all he's done.
Please think about how you conduct your manner in future.
I don't think I've posted seriously in this topic yet, but I shall now, while listening to The Coral.
I'll probably miss Joeno's God-like status on this forum, probably because he's been an admin since I've joined. He may've had some controversy about him, but at least he did his job well. I'm sure most of you are thinking this really.
Side Note: I had little to no computer access when Jess posted her controversial leaving post. I doubt this matters for anything, but I just wanted to point it out for no apparent reason.