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Pokémon Games => X and Y/OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire => Topic started by: Ledyba on January 08, 2013, 20:54
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y'know, speculation!
What do you think? probably plot wise, or even just a simple refer to the pokemo's shapes, but it's probably got story with that.
i dunno, maybe image people know this more about me, but isn't 3D on a X pitch or a Y pitch or something, if I haven't just dreamed this maybe it's just a refer to it being 3D.
i mean the logo colours are red and blue what 3D usually associated with.
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Aren't there X and Y chromosomes or something?
Maybe the two legendaries were split from the same pokemon or something, I dunno.
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Well, I have heard some references to it being based around DNA, especially what with the new Eevee evolution rumoured to be around the corner, and I would LOVE it if it was. But then, that might be a little heavy-handed for kids, so it depends how they handle it. If it IS to do with the 3D then maybe that's a sign that they're going to be moving the game to make the best use of the 3D screen, bring about something akin to the Distortion world, really make you think about where you are in space. That would be pretty awesome too.
Either way, Nintendo seems to gradually be moving down the route of having the names mean a little more than pretty patterns, if the last pair of games were anything to by. It's an interesting little twist, and I like it.
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OR MAYBE when talking aobut the new games to the staff the director uses 'x' and 'y' as people do for generic un-assinghed values or if the names are reallly relevant and the staff mistook it for actual names!!!!!
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... I will agree. I found it very funny reading through the speculation thread every time someone mentioned the unknown variables as 'x'.
SPOILER ALERT: The game is an educational game to teach kids the basics of algebra. Pokemon are now captured by solving algebraic equations before you can throw a Pokeball.
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I hope the third game wont be called Z.
Well... I wouldn't mind but yeah...
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Well, who says there'll be a third game? We haven't seen a Pokemon Grey yet... Though maybe that's because they couldn't decide whether to make it Grey or Gray =P
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Aren't there X and Y chromosomes or something?
That was my first thought, although now that I think of it, this is the first Pokemon game not revolving around colors, which are always reflected in the legendary Pokemon...
N was always blathering about equations, perhaps they're variables? There was a statue of some trainer with a Golurk and Palpitoad *shrugs*
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Well, who says there'll be a third game? We haven't seen a Pokemon Grey yet... Though maybe that's because they couldn't decide whether to make it Grey or Gray =P
Depends if we get a Lengendary that looks like a Z.......somehow. ;P
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Well, you say that... A snake might make sense with the theme they have going. Maybe. Or maybe not.
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isn't 3D on a X pitch or a Y pitch or something, if I haven't just dreamed this maybe it's just a refer to it being 3D
Do you mean like the X axis and the Y axis? Yeah I think there's some reason here, the X and Y axis would form be for a 2D shape, which suggests that a possible third version would be 'Pokemon Z', thus adding the third dimension.
But yeah, before I say that post, I was thinking about the whole XY chromosome thing too ^.^
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When I first saw this, I thought it meant you'd need both games to move your character :x
oops.
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When I first heard the names, I thought of genetics. With the X and Y chromosomes.
I also thought, given a possible third version (Z), it could represent the X, Y, and Z axis that make objects 3-demensional.
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Well on the Japanese trailer there is a double-helix (DNA) on the Pokemon logo...so I'm thinking Chromosomes, but I also think it's partly to do with the 3D thing too.
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I hope everyone is ready for dose of speculation and terrible connection-making..!
I think that X and Y are the ancestors of all Legendary Pokemon. I know this theory will clash with the whole "Mew is the ancestor of all" and "Arceus is the first Pokemon?!??" but Gamefreak are no strangers to the get out clause of "it's different mythologies, different regions believe different things."
X and Y are related to chromosomes, and the DNA symbol in the logo supports the idea that this is about evolution (trollol) and genetics and what not.
What has also been intriguing/bothering me are the similarities Pokemon X and Pokemon Y share with other legendary Pokemon.
Pokemon X
Dialga - colouring, markings, body shape
Arceus - equine form, the 'hilts' of its upper body and neck, the gold antlers reminiscent of Arceus' 'wheel'
Reshiram - face shape, blue eye, flowing head appendages
Virizion - equine form, tail shape
Pokemon Y
Darkrai - colouring, white ruff reminiscent of white plume, blue eye, demonic appearance
Groudon - colouring (primarily red body, black markings)
Giratina - Wing tips reminiscent of Origin form's wings.
Terrakion - Horns are pretty damn similar
You could then go even further, (which I'm prone to doing =P) and suggest that, in terms of form, both creatures tick most legendaries' boxes: the legendary birds, ho-oh and lugia all share a form in Pokemon Y, while the legendary dogs, musketeers, and elements of the pixies can be seen in Pokemon X.
This would all be dismissed easily by saying that GameFreak have probably reused some ideas, simply because there are so many Pokemon - but with the themes apparently being genetics or DNA, as suggested by the logo and the Pokemon titles, is it that much a stretch of the mind to imagine that these Pokemon are the precursors to all legendary Pokemon?
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I just initially assumed it's to do with graphs and that we're to expect a third version called "Z". As in the X and Y axis, and the Z axis which allows us to represent shapes on a graph; third dimension.
My other thought initially was that it would be representative of chromosomes, but the colouring is wrong; surely the X would be red, XX is female, whilst the Y should be blue, XY is male. That could just be me being picky, though.. but even so, if it is to do with chromosomes, how would they implement that into Pokémon? I don't think it really.. has a place, unless I'm being a bit too closed-minded..?
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Maybe they thought it sounded kind of cool and went with it.
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I would love there to be more of an in depth breeding mechanic and that the X and Y are related to the chromosomes but I am not sure how they could do it really.
The other option I see is X and Y not just relating to a graph but also coordinates. Remember in the trailer we saw Pikachu on the Eiffel tower - a real world place - well what if you could track down rare or special moved Pokemon in special real world places? All that lightning looks cool but maybe it is him (the special french pikachu) being shared around the world?
Nintendo love encouraging people to trade and with this mechanic they would certainly do that. Plus they could advertise that they are encouraging kids to explore the real world around them.
Just a thought.
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I would love there to be more of an in depth breeding mechanic and that the X and Y are related to the chromosomes but I am not sure how they could do it really.
Oh my gosh that would be awesome. Maybe some of the 6th gen pokemon might be hybirds between two pokemon in very specific mixes?
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Mixing might work with the hints we're getting towards a new Eevee...
Also building on the thoughts of the Pokemon being fused - maybe we're not talking past, but future. This might be a stretch and is probably wild speculation, but we saw in the very first generation that Pokemon cloning is possible, so is it such a stretch that these Pokemon could be manmade fusions?... Though I agree it's more likely that they're roots rather than combinations.
It might be a bit too much of a dangerous subject area for Pokemon to be treading arund, but previous generations have questioned - briefly - if there is any difference between male and female Pokemon. Researchers tend to have a theme, so maybe this generation's researcher will be studying male/female differences in particular? It might be too contraversial for a kid's game, but you never know...
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... I will agree. I found it very funny reading through the speculation thread every time someone mentioned the unknown variables as 'x'.
SPOILER ALERT: The game is an educational game to teach kids the basics of algebra. Pokemon are now captured by solving algebraic equations before you can throw a Pokeball.
Like this?
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/wild-equation-appeared.jpg)
If so, then this will really put gamers off. On one Youtube comment they think the seventh generation will have a name of Pokemon Sine and Cosine, with the third being Tangent. And so on.
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*cough* x and y axis *cough*