Topic: What Realisations Have You Made Today?

[SirBlaziken]

Also with Diego, he's not an antagonist, he's more of an anti hero.

[SaRo|Rapidash]

On the character discussion, generally speaking a better villain is more memorable than a better good guy because there's more variety in what you can do with a bad guy

Yeah, that's pretty accurate.

Also with Diego, he's not an antagonist, he's more of an anti hero.

THANK YOU!!! I was trying to think up the word when I wrote that and that's the word xD

[Kerou 犠牲]

Having a change of heart =/= anti-hero

[SirBlaziken]

*Facepalms*

No, Diego became a hero, but didn't have heroic qualities. That's an anti hero.

[Kerou 犠牲]

His thing once joining the good guys was about overcoming his obstacles. Plus he changed to a good guy due to his morals and having a change of heart, both of which are very heroic traits.

An anti-hero has traditionally villainous traits and the only time he displayed them was during the first film, past then he's most definitely a good guy.

I guess in terms of cartoons in that light it's very difficult to have a consistent anti-hero, and I guess what people define as against the grain and being heroic or villainous is open to interpretation -shrug-

[Captain Jigglypuff]

^Captain Hook is an anti-hero. But then again he DOES have a good reason for hating Peter Pan and wanting him dead. After all Peter cut off Hook's hand and THEN fed it to the croc for no good reason whatsoever and thus Hook has lost so much sleep that the pirate is obviously going to be cranky. And when he DOES finally go to sleep, what happens? Peter Pan forcefully wakes Hook up. Yeah. Who's the REAL villian now?

[SaRo|Rapidash]

....I will never look at that story in the same light xD

[Kerou 犠牲]

Captain Hook is portrayed as the main villain rather than an anti-hero. Doesn't mean you can't cheer for the bad guy though

[Captain Jigglypuff]

^But what hero cuts off a guy's hand and THEN feeds it to a wild animal as insult to injury literally and constantly harass the villian every time he sleeps?

[Kerou 犠牲]

A hero who's in a desperate situation in order to escape and get one over the villain. You're essentially selling Peter Pan as the anti-hero here

[Captain Jigglypuff]

^I can understand the cutting off the hand but feeding it to a crocodile is REALLY low even for a villian. Normally villians stop at cutting off limbs and not feeding said limbs to wild animals.

[Kerou 犠牲]

Depends on the villain, some of them are lower than low man

[SaRo|Rapidash]

Yeah, like the joker beat Jason Todd to death with a crow bar. That's pretty low xD

[Captain Jigglypuff]

^Whp's Jason Todd?

[SaRo|Rapidash]

The second robin - DC did a vote on whether the joker should beat him to death or not and the vote came in at about 51% yes. He was the rubbish robin anyway xD