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Title: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Xmintnarwhalx on September 20, 2012, 22:16
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Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: sylar on September 20, 2012, 22:30
dunsparce
remember way back when frez was here they made duserpent
that was fun id have liked to have seen a dunsparce evolution like that
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Sizacu on September 21, 2012, 00:10
It was Duserpent? I always pronounced it as 'Dun-serpent' xD' Huh.

But a Dunsparce evo like the one Frez made would be pretty awesome. A Farfethch'd pre evo would look adorable, too haha.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: sylar on September 21, 2012, 00:23
ya they made a big deal about there being no 'n' in it i think? i remember that at least
there was also drama when dark snorlax/kyle made his variation of an evolution that was cool too

tbh they were both good
although thinkin about it now id like to see a farfetched evo
like the fake one that was supposed to be coming out for uh... b/w i think ?? along with a delibird evo

blah blah blah
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on September 22, 2012, 00:34
Dunsparce for sure. It has a small niche use, but it desperately wants an evolution.

Farfetch'd technically needs an evolution more than Dunsparce, but... I like Farfetch'd the way it is. Although, I do remember the fake BW Farfetch'd and Delibird evos, and they were pretty cool.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Dragonpika on September 24, 2012, 10:16
Banette! Dusclops got an evolution, and they left poor Banette without.. it could be a really cool evil puppeteer Pokémon or something.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Turner on September 24, 2012, 16:54
Huntail & Gorebyss, also Banette would be cool. And Maractus.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: RocketMember002 on September 24, 2012, 18:35
Farfetch'd has been terrible for the longest, it gets my vote.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Sizacu on September 24, 2012, 22:58
Banette! Dusclops got an evolution, and they left poor Banette without.. it could be a really cool evil puppeteer Pokémon or something.
woah it could be like a Pokemon that takes others' soul-less bodies that were harvested from them by a Lampent and control them using secret ghostly powers or something.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Webby on September 25, 2012, 01:10
Corsola needs an evolution the most ;______;
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on September 25, 2012, 14:06
Corsola needs an evolution the most ;______;

Webby and I finally agree on something! Corsola is soo bad. It's sooooo bad, people just built a freaking... town on them. It has literally never been useful for anything in any competitive aspect, and is outclassed a million times over by other Water types.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: MonsterMon64 on September 25, 2012, 16:04
Emolga should have had an evolution to begin with, which could have been the next Raichu and given us another reason to use the Thunderstone besides Eelektrik.

I'm with Richard on Farfetch'd. Part of me wants to see something for it (I'm thinking some sort of eagle-duck, personally) but on the other hand I wouldn't mind if it never got an evolution.

Know what I'd like to see? A Qwilfish evolution. It could be called Qwilblimp and be torpedo-shaped and its tail could split in two and be like a propeller or something.

Also, if we're going to give an evolution to Sableye, might as well give something to Mawile, too. And Jynx should have gotten an evolution alongside Electabuzz and Magmar. :/ Whoops, didn't realise this was only for single-stage Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Freestyler on October 12, 2012, 21:00
Know what I'd like to see? A Qwilfish evolution.

Yes, this is exactly what is needed. I also think that Dunsparce will eventually get an evolution. They probably all will.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on October 12, 2012, 22:23
Luvdisc and Dunsparce could use an evolution as well as Jynx (to round out the Electabuzz and Magmar lines since those three are usually thought of as an elemental trio), Chatot, and Corsola. Pokemon that need a pre-evolution I think are Druddigon, Kecleon, Absol, and Lapras. Those Pokemon seem to not be quite as complete or something came before them.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Green Apple on October 20, 2012, 22:24
Skarmory, Maractus, and Emolga for me. Mainly Skarmory though
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: BloodRedBaron on October 29, 2012, 21:31
I think Pinsir needs an evolution more than anyone. He totally got shafted when Scizor showed up with his pal, Heracross.

I hate Darfetch'd. There are too many normal/flying types that suck already. IMO Staraptor's the only one worth training... Well, and Togekiss, of course.
Also, Emolga should have evolved from Pachirisu.. That's like a no brainer.

Aside from that, I'd like to see evolutions for Girafarig, Basculin, and Druddigon.
How cool would it be if Basculin turned into a more bad-ass Gyarados, and Druddigon got bulky.. Like he was supposed to be...
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on October 30, 2012, 03:24
Skarmory, Maractus, and Emolga for me. Mainly Skarmory though

I couldn't imagine Skarmory ever getting an evolution, it's already amazing in pretty much every generation and has great stats, but I guess anything's possible. They tend to not evolve Pokemon that are already top-tier in every generation, though, and Skarmory has only gotten better with time, so I see no need or reason for an evolution.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: SirBlaziken on November 04, 2012, 12:28
Derpsparce qwillfish and jynx
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Green Apple on November 10, 2012, 22:44
I couldn't imagine Skarmory ever getting an evolution, it's already amazing in pretty much every generation and has great stats, but I guess anything's possible. They tend to not evolve Pokemon that are already top-tier in every generation, though, and Skarmory has only gotten better with time, so I see no need or reason for an evolution.
skarmory would look cool with a evolution imo
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: sans the skeleton on November 10, 2012, 23:03
I don't think Skarmory should have an evolution, per se, but perhaps a preevolution. And I don't mean another igglybuff thing. Pincir definitely deserves an evolution though!

Emolga shouldn't have an evolution. It just seems like ANOTHER pikachu ripoff imo - it's the face and eyes that does it for me. Perhaps Mawlie and Sabeleye deserve evolutions. Farfetch'd definitely deserves one, considering it could potentially be pretty good for ingame/out of game with an evolution perhaps.

Luvdisc? Naw. One of the worst pokemon in the game & unless they drastically change the stats it's going to be unsalvagable.

Luvdisc and Dunsparce could use an evolution as well as Jynx (to round out the Electabuzz and Magmar lines since those three are usually thought of as an elemental trio), Chatot, and Corsola. Pokemon that need a pre-evolution I think are Druddigon, Kecleon, Absol, and Lapras. Those Pokemon seem to not be quite as complete or something came before them.

LAPRAS PREEVOLUTION

OMG THAT WOULD BE SO CUTE I WOULD HOARD A BOX FULL OF THEM IN MY PC
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on November 11, 2012, 00:17
skarmory would look cool with a evolution imo

I'm not saying it wouldn't look cool, I'm saying that in terms of statistics, it's impractical, because Skarmory's already got great stats, and has always been a top-tier threat. Giving it better stats through an evolution is unnecessary.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Turner on November 13, 2012, 01:23
I think Pinsir needs an evolution more than anyone. He totally got shafted when Scizor showed up with his pal, Heracross.

Agreed so much, I think he deserves an evo chain similar to Elekid, Magby and Rhyhorn, some kind of trade item to dual type him with rock type or something, I felt Sudowoodo needed something like this too.

I think they should start incorporating evolutions into legendaries...a super rare hold item that evolves arcanine into a legendary fire dog, more people would be able to relate to a legendary evolution than a whole made up gimmick new legendary pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Green Apple on November 19, 2012, 15:00
Unown could. Maybe with a usable movepool.
LAPRAS PREEVOLUTION

OMG THAT WOULD BE SO CUTE I WOULD HOARD A BOX FULL OF THEM IN MY PC

That would be  so cool!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Gusparce on November 23, 2012, 20:23
YES.

DUNSPARCE.

It needs an evolution so glorious that everyone will kneel in adulation.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Inferna on November 23, 2012, 21:25
I remember when d/p came out i was looking through the dex and was so annoyed pinsir/heracross didn't get an evo!
I'd like to see a Kecleon evo, I made one a while back.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Green Apple on December 02, 2012, 14:02
Mawile could use one, and maybe stunfisk.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Gameace15 on December 09, 2012, 20:30
Sableye and dunsparce are the 2 that need it the most q_q Also I thought luvdisc evolved into Alomomola and Pachirisu evolved into Emolga... Well I figured out the Emolga is not Pachirisu when I tried to breed it today to get a pachirisu q-q So I get the egg and im like "OMG!!! Finally I get a freaking pachirisu!!!!!!" *egg hatches* WTH!!!!! ANOTHER Emolga!!!!! *rage*
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Ledyba on December 13, 2012, 17:42
an alt evo of Ledyba which is basically a massive Ledyba with the ability to use fire moves and hyper voice.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Lord Raven on December 13, 2012, 17:58
Agreed so much, I think he deserves an evo chain similar to Elekid, Magby and Rhyhorn, some kind of trade item to dual type him with rock type or something, I felt Sudowoodo needed something like this too.
I think one more comparable to Scyther is better for him, where the evolution has some perks over Pinsir but isn't necessarily preferable.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on December 15, 2012, 03:12
I think one more comparable to Scyther is better for him, where the evolution has some perks over Pinsir but isn't necessarily preferable.

Not sure what you mean here; competitively, Scizor is completely preferable over Scyther. Unless you're talking about appearance, in which case, yeah, Scyther all the way. A Bug/Ground Pinsir evo would be kinda neat, since it's almost unique typing (shared with Nincada), and it'd be one of few bugs to not get mauled by Stealth Rock.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: The last sheikah on December 15, 2012, 20:10
Not sure what you mean here; competitively, Scizor is completely preferable over Scyther. Unless you're talking about appearance, in which case, yeah, Scyther all the way. A Bug/Ground Pinsir evo would be kinda neat, since it's almost unique typing (shared with Nincada), and it'd be one of few bugs to not get mauled by Stealth Rock.
Scyther is technically a sidegrade due to the fact that its BST is identical (and in fact the stat distributions, while different, aren't decisively better one way or another), it just happens that Scizor is more useful generally because of its typing.
It's kind of the same as how the Eeveelutions, or the Rotom forms, are technically meant to be balanced, but clearly aren't.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on December 16, 2012, 08:44
Scyther is technically a sidegrade due to the fact that its BST is identical (and in fact the stat distributions, while different, aren't decisively better one way or another), it just happens that Scizor is more useful generally because of its typing.
It's kind of the same as how the Eeveelutions, or the Rotom forms, are technically meant to be balanced, but clearly aren't.

It's still not beneficial to use Scyther over Scizor, which is what I said. Maybe they're meant to be on the same kind of level, but that's an idealistic way of looking at things, and isn't grounded in reality.

Your point about stat distribution is also a generalization, because you're not taking anything but the stats into account. Scizor's movepool, typing, and stat distribution all make it a clear choice over Scyther in competitive battles, and that's all I said, really.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Clairefable on December 18, 2012, 13:15
I know everyone hates Jynx but it should have got an evo in Gen 4 with Magmar and Electabuzz. Like some badass valkyrie looking thing.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on December 19, 2012, 01:41
I know everyone hates Jynx but it should have got an evo in Gen 4 with Magmar and Electabuzz. Like some badass valkyrie looking thing.

I was thinking more of a geisha with a fan that when waved blows cold air.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Lord Raven on December 24, 2012, 00:33
It's still not beneficial to use Scyther over Scizor, which is what I said. Maybe they're meant to be on the same kind of level, but that's an idealistic way of looking at things, and isn't grounded in reality.

Your point about stat distribution is also a generalization, because you're not taking anything but the stats into account. Scizor's movepool, typing, and stat distribution all make it a clear choice over Scyther in competitive battles, and that's all I said, really.
Richard, you should know way better than this; bringing up competitive everywhere doesn't really do you any favors.  I don't think Nintendo keeps competitive 100% in mind when they make stuff.  The purpose is, and this is what I and nintendo cares about- Scizor's meant to be more of a side-evolution to Scyther as opposed to preferred.

Obviously Scizor's better, but I still think something to the effect of what I suggested is better for Pinsir because the original intent of Pinsir was to have something over Scyther (raw power vs Speed) and, for that matter, Scizor and Heracross.  I'm willing to bet you knew exactly what I was talking about too and just felt the need to rub competitive knowledge into our faces...
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on December 25, 2012, 23:51
Richard, you should know way better than this; bringing up competitive everywhere doesn't really do you any favors.  I don't think Nintendo keeps competitive 100% in mind when they make stuff.  The purpose is, and this is what I and nintendo cares about- Scizor's meant to be more of a side-evolution to Scyther as opposed to preferred.

Obviously Scizor's better, but I still think something to the effect of what I suggested is better for Pinsir because the original intent of Pinsir was to have something over Scyther (raw power vs Speed) and, for that matter, Scizor and Heracross.  I'm willing to bet you knew exactly what I was talking about too and just felt the need to rub competitive knowledge into our faces...

Muhed, I'm honestly not, I never considered Scizor to be a side-evolution, just because it evolves in a different way. The only Pokemon I consider to be a side evolution is Shedinja maybe, since it doesn't evolve directly from the base Pokemon.

I'm sincerely not trying to rub competitive knowledge in anyone's face, I just really don't understand, to be perfectly honest. A side evolution has the same BST and evolves in an unusual way? I'm really not sure what you think I'm aware of, but I've got better things to do than to "rub competitive knowledge in your face". I meant no offense, I just honestly don't understand your stance about Scizor not being necessarily preferable, unless you meant appearance or typing, since they change drastically, in which case I've already agreed with you. =\
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: MonsterMon64 on December 26, 2012, 08:49
I think it was the way you worded what you said, Richard. It did come across as a little arrogant to me. Or... blunt, at least. ^^;

As for the whole "side-evolution" thing,  I see where Muhed and The last Sheika are coming from. (Not the term I'd use, but I can't think of a better one...) Scizor, going through a stat redistribution as opposed to an increase, sacrifices Speed for power and Defense.* If Scyther got a split evo, it could focus on speed, get a boost to other stats and still retain its typing (or at least its scythes) Whether it's better than Scizor or not, I don't think that's an issue if we're talking aesthetics, but I'm sure it'd make Scyther fans** happy to have another choice. (then again, I'm a sucker for split evos. Not counting Eeveelutions, there are simply not enough Pokemon with 'em)

...But then, how do you improve on an already awesome design without it being overkill? Same deal with Skarmory, though I have a better time picturing what it might evolve into... but not by much.

And yeah, I do feel like Pinsir got shafted. That's what makes me think the whole "Pinsir almost got its own evolution, but they decided to make Heracross instead" theory holds water. Agreed that Bug/Ground would be a cool typing for a Pinsir evo.

an alt evo of Ledyba which is basically a massive Ledyba with the ability to use fire moves and hyper voice.
Why do I get the mental image of a pyrotechnic Thanksgiving parade float with a siren on its head? :laugh:

*It more than makes up for this with a nasty Bullet Punch, admittedly. Oh, and its typing.
**Or at least me. I don't really like Scizor <<;
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on December 26, 2012, 13:57
I guess that's my fault then, I honestly didn't get it, but I do apologize if I came across as arrogant somehow. I didn't understand what he meant.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: SpinnelSun on December 29, 2012, 01:52
I've always would like to see a Medicham evolution, always thought it was a cool pokemon thought it's stats are underwhelming.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Captain Jigglypuff on December 29, 2012, 02:42
An evolution for Surskit where it reatins the Bug/Water typing would be nice. It is such a unique typing and the alternate evolution could easily take more hits from a Fire type and knock it out easily!
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: HipHop Honchkrow on January 02, 2013, 11:19
Chatot & Farfetch'd evolutons should be counterparts to eachother

Onix should also have a pre-evolution & have side evolutions

Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Grasshole on February 11, 2013, 22:04
I`d like to see a second evolution of Farfetch'd..
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: foxtipus on April 05, 2013, 05:50
I personally want a evolution for Shuckle. Just so I can put an evolite on it. The end result would be glorious.
Dunsparce is my second most wanted evolution. I think it could do with a speed boost mostly.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: steven101 on April 07, 2013, 00:37
I have a evolutionary chain that would look good paturisu into emolga at level up with super fang
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on April 07, 2013, 13:34
I have a evolutionary chain that would look good paturisu into emolga at level up with super fang

They're not going to merge separate Pokemon species, least of all with an existing method that doesn't work.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: BloodRedBaron on April 08, 2013, 20:46
I have a evolutionary chain that would look good paturisu into emolga at level up with super fang

I originally thought that Emolga evolved from Pachirisu (or whatever it's called, I hate it anyway) but was unimpressed to find that was not the case. In any event, I agree that they should be evolutionarily (is that a word?) related. I also don't see the need for Pikachu, Raichu, Pichu, Plusle, Minun, Pachirisu, and Emolga. Seriously, it's bad enough that Pikachu and Raichu are ultimately useless competitive-wise. Stop making electric rodents that are worthless pokedex fillers. Many electric pokemon have enough trouble not sucking as-is.

I also agree with whoever said they need more split evo's. I think every pokemon should have at least two evolutions (excluding legendaries). Split evo's are a really cool aspect of the game. Remember Gen I when you couldn't decide what to do with your Eevee? Most other newly caught pokemon already have their fate decided based on the lack of options. Those electric rodents could all be one big happy sucky family. And they could also lump together purrloin, skitty, and glameow. I think the stones (and other evolution items) should be used more. That would be so awesome if you could use a thunderstone on growlithe to form a cheetah-dog hybrid with awesome typing (just stay away from ground attacks) Or if you could trade Growlithe holding a dragon scale to make an Arcanine-like Chinese Dragon.

Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on April 08, 2013, 21:36
Just because a Pokemon is the same species, it should be lumped into the same evolutionary tree? No thanks.
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: BloodRedBaron on April 09, 2013, 21:55
Well, that is how evolution works irl..
Title: Re: Pokemon that could use an evolution?
Post by: Richard and Blaziken on April 09, 2013, 23:35
There are different species of cats irl, I don't see why all cats in Pokemon have to be part of the same weird evolutionary tree.