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General Category => Updates => Topic started by: Joeno on November 25, 2007, 17:57
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"A Name Rater contest?" you might ask yourself. "Why's that?"
Well, you shouldn't ask, as we already have an answer available. It's here. You see, we recently received this message from the Name Rater:
I really hope that in poor light, without my glasses and heavily under the influence of alcohol, a few of you might actually begin to look half suited to the task I'm about to suggest. I wish to announce my impending resignation as The Kanto Name Rater. I won't mince my words - the names are all appalling, the expectations too high and you can't get a decent insult thrown at you for want of trying. I cannot continue anymore, and in an effort to make myself even more of a legend around here, I need somebody only vaguely terrible to succeed me. That person could be YOU. If you can impress myself, my Johto cousin (and due to irritating contractual laws and results of late night Poker games, that hyperactive toilet brush from Route 201) then you could well be the person who becomes the new Kanto Name Rater.
So here's the thing. We are going to need someone to replace him. The admins are, as you know, too busy or too lazy to replace him. So, we're having a contest. During the coming few weeks, you people will get a chance to show us how good your name rating skills really are. Your names will be judged by the two name raters and Sentret and be voted on in the end by all the members. The winner will be added to the name rating team! Rejoice.
How is this going to work? Well, it's really simple. You now get about a week to prepare, ask questions, and so on, as well as signing up for the contest. After that, each week will have an assignment for all contestants that a are still in the race, involving several forms of name rating. The name raters and Sentret will judge these and grant immunity to one or two contestants, while the remainder of the group to continue to the next round will be decided through a poll on the forums. In the end, the best rater will be the winner and become the new PKMN.NET Name Rater!
A topic to sign up will appear in the PKMN.NET forum soon.
Ooh, and you'll see more stuff that was actually planned by use before this announcement appear over the next few weeks as well.
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this sounds good.. i will wait for the sign up thread to come up.. :)
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It's already up. :P Take a look around.
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Ah... where is it?
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This is like... my dream come true...
I have SO many questions I can't articulate into words, though!! D: Well, I'll try:
1. Should there be a "resumé" of sorts, i.e. reasons why one would be qualified to fill the Name Rater's shoes?
2. Is it going to be an elimination thing, where each person is given the same nickname and must rate it differently? Oh. Didn't see the explanation up there. ^^;
3. Count me in, please!
And I think that's it. o.o
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http://pkmn.net/forums/index.php?topic=69562.msg1416125#new
Sign up here if you want to take part..
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okay.. done! thanks reflex and that other person..
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I'm definantly in ;D Sounds good competition and if we win do we have to keep our identity secret? At day I am Swebb an avatar fan and by night *puts on cape* I am Name Rater!
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The admins are, as you know, too busy or too lazy to replace him.
Count me in too.
So why did Rex sign up then?
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So why did Rex sign up then?
Because he isn't too busy or lazy, clearly.
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And besides, when has anything Rex ever did made sense to you?
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If I was someone else, I'd probably be offended.
But I'm not, and I agree.
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I would if I had a good enough sense of humor. Sadly, I do not.
But I hope whoever wins is as sarcasticly pwnsome as the last rater. Good luck contestants!
PS: Do you have to be fairly active already on PUK to win to position?
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And besides, when has anything Rex ever did made sense to you?
Ever since "Muhed kicking" became a running gag, I was truly convinced Rex will be the most nonsensical guy I am ever going to meet.
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Not entirely sure which topic this should go in... I don't want to sign-up, more to up-sign up O.o
After consideration, I realised it was a kinda bad idea me entering. Even if I got anywhere in the competition, both me and my connection [ well, me really x3; ] are far too unreliable. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but I hadn't really thought about it if I'm honest.
If it's not too much trouble, could I drop out please? Sorry for the fuss.
Good luck to everyone else =]
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I had already removed you from the membergroup
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Sorry, wasn't sure. Cause I can still see the board o.o
EDIT: Ah, I can't post any more. Thanks =];
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I guess it's time to announce it then ...
Rex is the super-secret rank of cowmin. That's why he applied. O_o;
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but rex cant win, hes an admin.
he couldnt do both...or could he...(rubs chin)....
he does have evil cow minions, but still.
no, honestly, is he REALLY taking part in this?
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Since I obviously can't post in the restricted forum, here is who I voted for:
Rikimaru
T-man
Mushroom (Shrike)
TRACTORMAN (That hyper girl in the corner)
I chose them based on spelling/grammar, wit, humour and negative comments about the nicknames (yes I think they are all bad myself).
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hmm... how'd Lounge Act get through o0;
Anyway for the last round...
I voted, Tim, TCoZ, Kit and Crystal Onix, yeah I done it due to friendships =D Still I'm going to vote with a strategy next =D
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Through "zomg nobody likes me" attention-seeking posts, most likely :(
I voted for him because I thought I'd easily beat him. 0o
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I survived public vote? Huh, what do you know? Well, it was proabably all on luck, next round I'll proabably get eaten, but I'm still gonna give it my all! Good luck to the rest who made it through, and thanks for playing all that didn't.
(Question, Whats the dead line on rating in round 2?)
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All deadlines can be found on the calendar.
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Do'h... I got voted out...
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Since I've seen this attitude come up here and in other places, I'm reposting a note here.
Administrative note
This was a public vote. The majority voted for this result. Irrelevant of what you thought, this is the decision that was reached, and I find this childish, petty bickering that is completely unnecessary - and frankly, rather insulting towards Lounge Act's contributions.
In other words, people, that you don't like someone's ratings doesn't mean that they do not have a right to get through to the next round. Apparently, a lot of other members did like them. In fact, some of the people complaining who also got through weren't on my hotlist either, but you don't see me complaining about that, now do you?
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i got booted too.. but i feel good about it. i didnt lose anything. i guess my skills werent up to par!
oh well.
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I didn't get through, but ah well. All those who got through deserved it.
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No-one likes me, that's why they didn't vote for me! I might leave now.
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Guys,
What are you doing?
This whole contest, sure there's a goal at the end of it, but some of you are taking it really too seriously, you're supposed to have fun. Remember that?
Its not a battle of egos, its not a battle of who likes who, its not a battle you can drag on to the rest of the site and act pose someone shouldn't have gone trough because you felt it.
If this is the kind of childish attitude that may make us think twice if we were ever want to do something like this again.
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reflex has a point you know.
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reflex has a point you know.
So does Joeno btw =P
And yeah, I do admit it was not really needed, so blame me for starting it off. Yeah, sorry for my immatureness which makes PUK seem like a school playground, which it isn't =P
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While I'm not exactly impressed by how the contest is being run... I can see how the people that got through did so...
-I'dd quite like to know how people that 'automatically' got through to the next round were chosen...? I found it rather odd.
its not a battle of who likes who
Ah.. One of the problems would be the fact that people were voting on a 'friends-vote-for-friends' basis. I seriously doubt many voters read everyone's submissions, which kind of defeats the point of the rounds.
Oh well... =]
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In your mind, people mind have been voting on a 'friends-vote-for-friends' basis. Do you have any proof for your assertion, or are you just jealous that you didn't get through while other people did?
The immunities... Well, I don't know, we only had this huge log in the voting topic where the Kanto Name Rater and Sentret discussed who got through. Maybe it was their decision to do so?
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In your mind, people mind have been voting on a 'friends-vote-for-friends' basis. Do you have any proof for your assertion, or are you just jealous that you didn't get through while other people did?
The immunities... Well, I don't know, we only had this huge log in the voting topic where the Kanto Name Rater and Sentret discussed who got through. Maybe it was their decision to do so?
Hehe... considering no one knows who Sentret and the Kanto Name Rater are...it could quite literally be the same person calling the shots.
[[Meh... ill just leave that... I wasnt going to read the log anyway, seeing as I had to make my entry in 10 minutes... =P]]
Does that mean its the Johto Name Rater getting replaced?
Im really not that bothered about being voted out. But quite a lot of people posted saying they voted for their friends...
I voted, Tim, TCoZ, Kit and Crystal Onix, yeah I done it due to friendships
Theres a bit of proof for you. :) [Sorry Sappy! Your the first quote on hand... ;)]
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Im really not that bothered about being voted out. But quite a lot of people posted saying they voted for their friends...Theres a bit of proof for you. :) [Sorry Sappy! Your the first quote on hand... ;)]
Still, Dave you're on about one of the laziest guys on the site.
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I wasnt going to read the log anyway
Okay, never mind then. If you're going to make all kinds of wild allegations without even bothering to read up on what's going on, I see no reason to waste my energy on you. You neither read the logs, nor seem to consider Rex and my earlier posts.
It's this sort of "You can't do anything right" attitude that makes me consider just dropping the entire thing. Rule 20 search? Nah, our clues are probably just lame. Contests? Obviously fourty-something people are ALL biased in voting for their friends and with the amount of votes, only votes for friends will have had any influence on the rules. New features? Oh, let's not even get started on those things.
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Still, Dave you're on about one of the laziest guys on the site.
Hehe.... Yeah. I really don't have much free time anymore... And how do you intend to justify that...?
Okay, never mind then. If you're going to make all kinds of wild allegations without even bothering to read up on what's going on, I see no reason to waste my energy on you. You neither read the logs, nor seem to consider Rex and my earlier posts.
[[Just read first post fully]] Oh yeah... I thought the first page was just the announcement of the contest when i flicked through earlier.
I didn't say everyone was biased. But certainly quite a few people did vote for friends. I'll leave it at that. I don't want a debate.
My allegations aren't wild. We actually don't know whether the Kanto Name Rater and Sentret are different people. I do do a fair bit of reading up, but can't always catch everything...
[I give up. Arguing is useless here.]
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We actually don't know whether the Kanto Name Rater and Sentret are different people.
Trust me, they are not. I'd say how they update the various features would make that much clear. Unless you think those logs were the work of just one person with a lot of time on his hands.
I'll leave alone the insulting implications that stem from you discarding the opinions of 45 other members who all have their worth decreased. Considering that you have the word of just one member, that's just pathetic.
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Sentret is weird....
Seriously, if I had not be recalled from parole two weeks early, I would have brought him back to the funny farm with me.
I'm a bit disappointed, to be honest, that I completely missed the first round of the name rater contest... I honestly think I may have been worthy of it... But you cant let things you cant change affect ya... I just wanna see how everyone else does now ^^
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Trust me, they are not. I'd say how they update the various features would make that much clear. Unless you think those logs were the work of just one person with a lot of time on his hands.
I'll leave alone the insulting implications that stem from you discarding the opinions of 45 other members who all have their worth decreased. Considering that you have the word of just one member, that's just pathetic.
I'm not even going to bother continuing this. Running all over the site for more proof isn't worth my time. Not when I'm only trying to point out something I noticed, rather than argue with the result of the poll.
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This isn't 'pointing out something you've noticed', though, this is directly saying "The result of this poll is invalid, because people voted for the wrong reasons." You made a claim, and I want proof from you now. If you do not have such proof, I would suggest you retract it, as the implications of this claim ("The contest is biased") are quite large for the contest.
As I said, devaluing the opinions of some 45 members like this is rather insulting.
If you want to make these claims, especially after the admins have discussed them, you'd better have an extremely good reason for making it.
(And note that, without this proof, I could say that you have insulted at least 44 members - 46 voters, minus one for you, minus one for Sappy's claim. Note that there are rules regarding these things.)
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Can I just butt in for a second....
I've been offline for a while and I'm not too sure what this 'rule 20' thing is that Joeno seems to have indicated rather mysteriously in his sig... I'm guessing its in the PKMN.net official rules.... but what exactly is it about?
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That is entirely off-topic and can be discussed in one of the existing topics in the PKMN.NET-forum.
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Well to be fair, all that seems to be going on in this topic anyway is arguments that seem to sway off topic and all it would have taken was a short answer... but, meh...
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This isn't 'pointing out something you've noticed', though, this is directly saying "The result of this poll is invalid, because people voted for the wrong reasons." You made a claim, and I want proof from you now. If you do not have such proof, I would suggest you retract it, as the implications of this claim ("The contest is biased") are quite large for the contest.
As I said, devaluing the opinions of some 45 members like this is rather insulting.
If you want to make these claims, especially after the admins have discussed them, you'd better have an extremely good reason for making it.
(And note that, without this proof, I could say that you have insulted at least 44 members - 46 voters, minus one for you, minus one for Sappy's claim. Note that there are rules regarding these things.)
Im just going to back down on this one. I don't want any changes made. I wasn't intending to call the vote invalid anyway.
However, just quickly, I seriously doubt that people would be insulted by this discussion. If anyone is insulted feel free to PM me about it, but otherwise i'd say that this discussion is getting overly hostile now. I'm going to leave it alone.
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Well to be fair, all that seems to be going on in this topic anyway is arguments that seem to sway off topic and all it would have taken was a short answer... but, meh...
Off topic? The contest is being critisied and we're responding to this.
However, just quickly, I seriously doubt that people would be insulted by this discussion.
To be honest, I think I would be if I was told I had no skills but was just friends with the voters. Thats what several people have implyed at least.
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To be honest, I think I would be if I was told I had no skills but was just friends with the voters. Thats what several people have implyed at least.
As I said at first, I can see how the people that got through made it there. The people still in do have skills. The point was that some people were voting for their friends rather than those they thought were good. That doesn't mean that the people that get through had no skill.
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I'll just point out something I noticed about Round 2 - Rex and Chani seem to be majorly sucking up to the admins in their name ratings.. this will perhaps just win them a few votes from the admins (if they don't go through automatically)? But will it impress the normal members who will be voting?
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Heck, I went about rating the admin's names under the premise that Jeroen is Jeroen, Mike can be anything, and James is so easy to joke about you can be vague about it without anybody knowing who he is. =P Seriously, I'd be surprised if I made it to the next round. I really choked up here. XP
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Well, just as a note, I apologise for making those childish and baseless accusations. :(
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I'll just point out something I noticed about Round 2 - Rex and Chani seem to be majorly sucking up to the admins in their name ratings.. this will perhaps just win them a few votes from the admins (if they don't go through automatically)? But will it impress the normal members who will be voting?
Raph, you seem to be doing some really great commentating on this. Reminds me of a TV show host.
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Rex and Chani seem to be majorly sucking up to the admins in their name ratings..
Now, why would I have to suck up to the admins? ;P
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Now, why would I have to suck up to the admins? ;P
To get their votes, obviously. Being an admin does not preclude you from sucking up to other admins. o.o
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But he show know better than any other that sucking up, especially in an obvious way, tends to annoy and anger at least some of us.
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Besides, after the nasty, horrible, inhuman things I say about my fellow admins, no amount of flattering is going to help.
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Aaw D= They didn't recognise the Scyther reference... Oh well. Hmn, voting will be tough, though, good luck, all! I have yet to decide on my votes xD
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Aaw D= They didn't recognise the Scyther reference...
I still don't get it.. was there a Scyther called James? EDIT: Got it now, James is Psythor haha. v_v
Anyway my Round Two votes went to Monstermon64, Mushroom and Rikimaru.
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Well, I'm surprised Sentret didn't get PlusV, considering most of the time all it does is
Sentret sets mode: +v *insert person*
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oh fish, I'm shocked o.o
I was for sure, I was going out o.o
I was swearing yes, in my head, cause I couldn't take the shock o.o
Thanks guys for voting! ^^
Oh yeah, congrats to the other 3 and well done for getting this far to the others ^^
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I made it again? Wow... Also like Sappy I figured I was gone for sure, since they got upset over Roadkill (I still think it's funny though)
Well, Good job to the rest that made it, and thanks all that have been participating!
My post was deleted, I guess I was wrong, oh well, I had fun playing! (was there a list anywhere of who made it?)
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Utack, it's the top four from the Round Two poll. You got through =/
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Erm...who else may I ask got through too?
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Sappy, Rikimaru, Shrike and Utack did
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My post was deleted, I guess I was wrong, oh well, I had fun playing! (was there a list anywhere of who made it?)
I was going through the topic and noting who had submitted what, together with some more information. When I got to your post, it was empty. Empty posts are not submissions, and thus get deleted. Even if you had edited in ratings later on, I would not have noticed it and you would have gone on the list as being absent.
As I said before, only post in these topics for the reason they are there for - only to submit ratings. If that doesn't happen, these kind of issues will come up and your submissions might end up deleted.
So post your ratings straight away. Don't leave an empty post and hope you'll have the time to edit it.
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oooh. I apologize Joeno, I will not make the same mistake in the future.
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*sighs*
I didnt see the round 2, so I didnt get to vote, and I only have 2 votes....
*wah wah wah*
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For me the Round 3 voting was between Mushroom and Rikimaru, as I had voted for both of them in the previous rounds. But Rikimaru's ratings were a little too "nasty" as Sentret said in the log, so I voted for Mushroom.
Posted on: December 23, 2007, 12:22
As some of the raters might not get it I'll explain the names to be rated:
BoeingYanm = I really don't know
Sappy = Sappy (duh)
UndGrExplTm = US|Leading Underground Exploration Team A
Mushroom = Mushroom (duh again)
Not very insightful but then again I don't want to do their job.. anyway Mushroom got through by one vote, so my vote was really important lol.
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Aww, you can't guess my name?
Its Boeing-Y4NM3G4Z, guys ;)
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Alright, I filled out my bit, last of the four. Good luck to all and congrats to making it this far!
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Good luck everyone, *shakes hands*
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loltwist
I still don't feel the contest is over since we all have our permissions and the board would be gone.
Oh, yeah. Good luck!
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Well, this is plain crap.
We went through all the effort to rate names and what, he "changed his mind"?
Whatever.
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"History of not rating the actual name"
Yes, I know that. That what I tried to fix in this round.
Pfft, I reckon it is over. Kanto Name Rater rarely posts, so I guess there's a proper reason for it this time.
Oh well, at least we all suck equally.
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... xDDDDDDDDDD WIN <3
You know what I think? I doubt he ever planned on retiring in the first place. For starters, I always puzzled on how the winner would be able to have the anonymousness, which is part of the reason why the nameraters are so great. That's the main reason, and it also just seemed so unlikely that he WOULD retire like that...
Seriously. Multo win-ness.
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Still... it was fun =D
I still don't think it's over, yet. The final is supposed to be done differently than the other rounds.
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Huzzah! The Name Rater stays! I wondered why I felt like there was going to be some kind of plot twist at the end, my guess was that they were going to pick the top two and kick out Sentret. Sorry Sentret, it would have been sad to see you leave the name rating board, but Kanto didn't seem very fond of you. But I was wrong, insted Kanto decieded to stay, meaning once again I can submit names in hoping that Kanto will rate them with his sense of humor that made me join the fourms!
US|something - There were better raters in the competition but you did impress me at times. I'm not sure you could keep it going over a long period of time though.
Hehe, I agree, I'm not sure how I made it to the end, but now I have somthing to tell my grand-fish, I impressed the Name Rater...at times!
Well, good job all, the fact that the name rater couldn't pick a winner means we are alll winners.
Well...mabye not, But good job anywyaz!
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still, there could be a name rater. one of the 4.
Sadly they're not telling us D=
It's not me =P
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still, there could be a name rater. one of the 4.
Sadly they're not telling us D=
It's not me =P
Not me either...
REALLY!
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I reckon it's already been done. THe winner has been announced but they've covered it up to make his/her/it's identity a secret...
In other words:
-Winner is chosen
-Rest are told the contest is called off
-Winner takes place of old name rater without anyone knowing, thus keeping the rater's identity secret.
It's a conspiracy I say! A consipracy!
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Eh? You mean the Name rater might have lied? Na, I don't think he would...then again...
I dunnoz, You can tell my ignorance by my above post.
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There's another possibility imo
Look on the calendar, yes it's supposed to be judging time at the moment, cool =P
And what Kanto said was the judging post. Look he judged all 4 of us.
Now, wait for it. Hopefully on Saturday a poll might crop us asking "Who would you want to be the name rater?" Then the name rater is told after that they won that position then.
It's a possibility. I predict BY is most likely to be rater. Since he's been moaning about it a lot =P
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Hehe, it's turning out just like that card game...Mophia I think it's called? Where you try to find the one killer and in the end all the inninoncent get slayed off due to wild accusations that make no sense, and mob mentality going along with it.
Oh what fun!
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There's another possibility imo
Look on the calendar, yes it's supposed to be judging time at the moment, cool =P
And what Kanto said was the judging post. Look he judged all 4 of us.
Now, wait for it. Hopefully on Saturday a poll might crop us asking "Who would you want to be the name rater?" Then the name rater is told after that they won that position then.
It's a possibility. I predict BY is most likely to be rater. Since he's been moaning about it a lot =P
Okay.........................
I doubt I'll be the rater, or anyone else for that case, I'm kinda bordering more on the "The whole contest is cancelled" thing.
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Hehe, it's turning out just like that card game...Mophia I think it's called? Where you try to find the one killer and in the end all the inninoncent get slayed off due to wild accusations that make no sense, and mob mentality going along with it.
Oh what fun!
Or cluedo, somehow!
I think it was Mushroom with the Name in the Forum o0;
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Well... I still think that as, 'traditionally', the rater has always been unidentified, the replacement should keep it that way. After all, If Sappy won and everyone knew, he could make a negative rating and recieve a lovely PM saying 'why u so harsh! Grrr!'.
Basically, to prevent angry messages i'd expect them to keep it anonymous. That and the 'i'm your friend, why did you rate my name harshly?' thing
Meh.
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I think that if the name rater was secretly replaced, it would become obvious over time because we know the sort of style the four finalists have.
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I think that if the name rater was secretly replaced, it would become obvious over time because we know the sort of style the four finalists have.
It may be to mislead us and they actually selected someone who had dropped out.
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First of all guys, the following may cause offence. I don't intend it. Plus the contest is ended, but this is kinda a sum up.
The contest was supposed to be fun, like Rex and Joeno said earlier when a few of us were shocked that Lounge Act got through to round 2. Then I think we slowly forgot it after until now.
A few people are mad, that the contest stopped, but honestly you had to enjoy it. The viewers probably enjoyed reading and laughing at the names. Who says there was going to be a prize? Who says its over?
The Kanto Name Rater had a point. All his points were right. I did go on a bit. He had even mentioned that in Round 1. He also had full right to close the contest.
I also think this could be part of the round still. Our reaction. =/
Still that possibility of one of the 4 being a rater, well we'll have to wait for Kanto's next rate. Still there's one thing for sure. If it is continued somehow, we'll have fun. Well I will =D
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Thinking about it, it feels really good to have been able to join this contest, and even being able to get to the final round.
I think I've been hoping for too much after Round 1...
At first, I was thinking, "Sigh, if only I could even get to the final round, I would be happy"
And at Round 3, I was already thinking of what I would do if I was selected as the Name Rater.
Looking back, I've gone quite far, and I think I now realize.
I joined this competition for fun.
Thats what I should get the most.
For that I have no regrets.
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Agreed with all, This was fun! Heck, I got praised from the Namer Rater! I'm happy, win or loose or draw or ect.
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i can't believe that the name rater changed his mind.......
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To be honest, I can't see why we can't have an additional rater, but yeah, it was fun =D
still...
Sentret says...
Ooh, scary. Sentret thinks it's all scary. Sentret doesn't want to rate more, but it's right....
Rated: 28th December 2007
I hope Sentret doesn't actually mean that D=
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I'm in! :D
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It was about 6 years ago. Sorry dude.
Wow, I was a loser back then. Despite making it to the final.
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Should we make another Name Rater contest?
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Should we make another Name Rater contest?
YAS!
But you don't listen to trolls, so whatever.
*Runs away crying*