Topic: Delicious Bred Petz Store

[SirBlaziken]

I don't disagree, i'm just saying i'll have to find something else to give you if the torchic is indeed adamanly. If it isn't, i'll have you covered (I plan on EV'ing tonight).

[aMartini607]

I know it's not listed but as I have no clue as to breeding it myself, what would it take to get a Modest 31/0/31//31/31/0 Analytic Porygon to evolve into Porygon2? I'm willing to give ANYTHING that I have that may interest you or get anything that does as long as it's something that wouldn't be next to impossible

[Delicious_Scout]

Whoah, hold your horses for a bit.

Egoistically speaking, I will let you know that I will require a very high payment, and I doubt you would be able to do so. In case you could...

6 specific IVs are a pain to achieve, and, as far as I am concerned, an Analytic, Modest Porygon2 with 0 in Speed makes no sense.
If you want to use it in a trick room, go for a quiet nature and... an ability that actually may make Porygon useful in the room, because analytic would be useless in case you attacked first.

I need an argument, a better one; if you can convince me, I will do it.

[aMartini607]

The payment needn't be worried about, and the specifics are because that would be the Pokemon I was speaking of in the teambuilding thread, I know what I'm doing competitively and I'm telling you the Porygon2 I run with those specs absolutely wrecks house, if some Showdown replays would help I'd be happy to oblige, I'm not interested in gimmicky Trick Room teams or anything of like, I'm kind of buzzed(my 21sy bday haha) so I can't make a good argument atm, but even when I can if you still feel it's not good enough I would be more than happy to do it myself if you could lend me the tools to do so, I just tend to get lazy sometimes  when it comes to breeding

[Delicious_Scout]

Is today your Birthday? Oh, why didn't you tell me that? I will try doing it as soon as Petzbreeder gives me the base. However, it will take a very long time to do. Without exaggerating, it can take me a week or so.

I still have my doubts regarding a Modest nature. Why would not you prefer Quiet?

[aMartini607]

I use Modest over Quiet because of having 0 Speed anyway, so with the 15%(i think) boost from Nature along with Analytic to give the attacks that much more of a boost because of the E.V.s I run(252 Defense and Special Defense) with Eviolite

[Delicious_Scout]

I still... don't know what you mean.

Quiet = - Speed, + SpA

Modest = - Att, + SpA

The damage taken from Foul Play is negligible, while the chances of using analytic increase a lot by using quiet.

(I mainly do this because I do not like to make refunds XD)

[aMartini607]

Don't worry, I won't be bugging you for one haha I view these things as just simple trades, and while I see your point about the Quiet nature, I use Modest to give him as much firepower as possible as I don't invest E.V.'s into Sp. Atk, I go 252 Def 252 Sp. Def then the other four wherever else I feel at the moment, with 0 Speed I.V.'s and no investment I'm terribly concerned with very many things outrunning me, but if you would rather/it would be easier to go Quiet I'd be more than happy to take that and shut my mouth c=

[Richard and Blaziken]

Quiet and Modest give the same boost to Sp. Attack; Quiet is far better for what you intend, aMartini.

[Spriter]

Quiet basically means you are faster under Trick Room whilst still getting the same boost from a Modest nature, which is preferable when running Analytic and 0 Speed IVs.

Woops, forgot about Analytic and TR...

[SirBlaziken]

Rich and Spriter are right about this. Quiet lowers speed and raises SpA. Modest raises SpA and lowers Attack. Both modest and Quiet give you the same boost, but with analytic, a lower speed is desired, and with Trick room. However, the ability activates if you move last. So if you want Analytic, you can't run it in trick room because in TR, it will actually move first, making the ability useless. If you're looking for a TR sweeper, download would be better. If no TR, you'll want the hidden ability.

[aMartini607]

I keep sayin I've tested this on Showdown just want it in-game haha, and I don't intend on it for TR, I know how to use TR it has just always seemed gimmicky and contrary to my usual builds as I rely on Speed a LOT with Pokemon that have the base for it

[Richard and Blaziken]

Analytic only works if you go last though, so... that's why Quiet is the way to go.

[SirBlaziken]

^Basically a condensed version of what I said.

[aMartini607]

I completely understand and knooowww all of this I was simply saying how I ran it while testing it, no investment and 0 I.V.'s has kept it slower than most everything I can remember facing with it, but like I said by the way Scout, have you thought of what you would like for this mildly annoying task?