Pretty self explanitory...
I dont know what i'd do... :P
I've actually thought about this before. I would go back in time to the release of the first Superman comic, buy as many copies as I could carry, and then sell them in the current time.
id go and buy a whole bunch of apple, walmart, and microsoft stock
If I had a time machine, I would use it to try and work out an absolute chronology for Ancient Egyptian history...
This is going to sound harsh, but you don't have my English teacher, but I'd dispose of Shakespeare.
Why not just dispose of your English teacher?
Because that's logical...
sir, that doesn't make sense
Logic is overrated, everyone uses logic, no-one tries to defy it! Well logic, I rebel against you :tongue2:
nothing
havent you heard of the butterfly effect
^whilst this is normally a theory accepted as fact, it is still a theory, and I would like to propose an alternate theory (if you dislike science, stop reading now):
Entropy is a theory that dictates everything moves towards a state of disorder, for example the universe is spreading away from each other, out of a uniform pattern. As the butterfly effect dictates, one small action can lead to a slipper slope-esque chain of events that create huge consequence. Logically, this theory should be true, however when considering entropy it is probable that the 2 timelines will meet up, eventually discounting any changes to the continuity of time
(End of sciencey bit) That is only my theory, and the butterfly effect could well be true, and is probably my second favourite theory (in terms of correctness(?)), I like the idea of time travel, and the butterfly effect , to me, discounts any chance of it being possible (would the universe allow anyway to destroy itself so easily?), and as a result I dislike it.
Just want to emphasise that I'm not disagreeing with you, for you could be right, I'm just disputing the validity(?) of the butterfly effect theory.
go back and make less stupid mistakes on my modern physics exams
for real i really don't care about much else too much
Go back and study properly for my exam on Tuesday.
Go back to some points in my life and when needed, slap myself.
I'd watch every major historical event happen.
And the 1966 World Cup Final...
i'd travel about three seconds back in time and meet myself and furiously make out with myself oh xhanatos oh you're such a good kisser oh yes mmh much better than james mason mmh yeah
Quote from: quack98 on May 12, 2013, 17:41
^whilst this is normally a theory accepted as fact, it is still a theory, and I would like to propose an alternate theory (if you dislike science, stop reading now):
Entropy is a theory that dictates everything moves towards a state of disorder, for example the universe is spreading away from each other, out of a uniform pattern. As the butterfly effect dictates, one small action can lead to a slipper slope-esque chain of events that create huge consequence. Logically, this theory should be true, however when considering entropy it is probable that the 2 timelines will meet up, eventually discounting any changes to the continuity of time
what no mention of the second law of thermodynamics??????????????????? for shame
I don't really accept the idea of time travel and I explained my reasons for that a couple of years ago on here.
However, making the assumption that it is some way plausible, I would time travel back to when I was born and tell my Mum NOT to let me be lazy. I'd tell her to make me work for stuff.
Then I'd travel back to when I was 14 and tell myself to start working hard for my GCSEs and to REVISE! Why? Because I've always been naturally good at school and as a result, I haven't bothered revising for any subjects. Now I'm in the middle of my exams and I've realised that I really should have revised!
Luckily, cramming works fairly well for me :).
I would go back in time and kill Adolf Hitler before his had-been decision to invade Poland. Perhaps then someone with less of a warlike mindset would run Nazi Germany parallel to then Soviet Union until both eventually collapse. You never know. I'd save millions of lives even though I may wipe my existence forever through some change in history. Saving millions of innocents is more important than giving them up for a selfish 90's soul. :'(
Quote from: MnMs™ on May 16, 2013, 21:48
I don't really accept the idea of time travel and I explained my reasons for that a couple of years ago on here.
it doesn't make sense to go backwards in time cause we can't break the speed of light (and it would violate causality too)
Quote from: Draghost999 on May 16, 2013, 22:54
I would go back in time and kill Adolf Hitler before his had-been decision to invade Poland. Perhaps then someone with less of a warlike mindset would run Nazi Germany parallel to then Soviet Union until both eventually collapse. You never know. I'd save millions of lives even though I may wipe my existence forever through some change in history. Saving millions of innocents is more important than giving them up for a selfish 90's soul. :'(
Or you would be arrested for killing an innocent man...
Adolf Hitler was on the German people's good side then. I'd assassinate him
But don't you think I'd warp back quickly to my time and disintegrate there instead? :yeswink:
Something soppy. :/
Probably go back and say "OH GOD YES!" when my best friend of all time said she'd go out with me. Still don't know why I said no, just couldn't believe it I suppose. Yay.
I'd stop Ganondorf from ever taking over Hyrule.
But really, I don't know if I'd want to tamper with anything in my life. All of the absolutely horrible things I had to go through directly led me to meeting my girlfriend, and that's not something I'd want to have a chance at ruining. But if I had to pick something, I'd go back and try to stop my cousin from committing suicide. =/
Quote from: sylar on May 12, 2013, 17:23
nothing
havent you heard of the butterfly effect
This. Think on a small scale what would happen if you went back a week in time and stopped something from happening. The world you'd be in today would be different, wouldn't it? Multiply that by a lot and see what happens, imagine if you stopped WWII from happening? Killed all of the world leaders before the mess occured? Or stopped WWI from developing before it got the chance to begin (WWI was basically a chain reaction anyway) or something?
Well that's what I believe anyway.
If there were no WWI there would be no Shadow Hearts and Shadow Hearts: Covenant
You do not want to remove those games from this world.
Forgetting about all the butterfly effect/kill hitler serious stuff I'd just do it all over again. Relive my life if I could, check places out, watch stuff I think is cool happen. I'd particularly love to see things with my 'adult eyes' that happened around me as a child, from serious stuff to things like old toys I used to play with but threw out. It'd be like a huge nostalgia rush.
i'd probably go back to 1986 when the chernobyl disaster happened, it really interests me so being in the time it happened would be awesome
I would probably go and meet places that arent there anymore. Like ancient temples and cities. Maybe even try to see Jack the Ripper in action. I would try not to affect the past and just watch a few important events.
I would go into the future and ask 45-year-old Draghost how he would've acted in intense situations that would come ahead of me, which he would've already gone through. Then the right thing may come out of my mouth in an intense situation where my future self would've wished to have said something different.
i already replied to this topic next october.
Quote from: Sebastian Moran on June 05, 2013, 12:08
i already replied to this topic next october.
Did you now? I would go back in time and tell my 13 year old self to not be such a punk, and to not let others push him around so much.
Quote from: well then we'll have a tonic water party on May 14, 2013, 03:17
what no mention of the second law of thermodynamics??????????????????? for shame
Well, seen as though you asked ;D An isolated system can't decrease in entropy due to it alway evolving toward Thermodynamic Equilibrium (TE from now on). The universe is classed as an isolated system, as (as far as we know) matter and energy can't enter or exit (law of conservation of energy (and matter, but as matter is a form of energy (sort of) I only really need to say energy)). As the cause of action in the universe is heading towards TE at all times, then technically any change in the course of time would minutely alter this, meaning it would either be impossible to time travel (but that defeats the object of the topic) or the universes time lines would meet (ending in no net change in entropy)
Dick, you're trying a bit too hard. xD
xD
Btw I would go back in time to watch my childhood and see Jesus.
Huh. Not bad... 8)
I would go back Before all the trolls registered and chop their heads off OH YEAH!
Quote from: sylar on May 12, 2013, 17:23
nothing
havent you heard of the butterfly effect
oh i agree with this
i mean i'd happily make sure hitler wasn't born but think of the families that wouldn't have ever started and the people that wouldn't have existed that were good people...
A time machine like... a Tardis but without the space bit? Where I could make multiple trips back and forth? I'd do a lot of stuff!
I'd travel back to every epoch through biological evolution and watch how far different animals had progressed and diverged. I might even travel through every 1000 years or so to really see how an animal progressively changed.
I'd cuddle a dodo. I might even bring one back to the future as a pet. Or several for breeding. I don't care what effect this would have because I would be the crazy dodo-lady.
Go meet Darwin et al. I wouldn't want to sail with him though, I hate sailing :s
I don't think I'd like to travel back too much into our recent human history, though... I'd certainly be branded a witch.
actually forget making out w/ past me i would go back to when puk was good whenever that was
Quote from: Робин on July 13, 2013, 16:32
Well, seen as though you asked ;D An isolated system can't decrease in entropy due to it alway evolving toward Thermodynamic Equilibrium (TE from now on). The universe is classed as an isolated system, as (as far as we know) matter and energy can't enter or exit (law of conservation of energy (and matter, but as matter is a form of energy (sort of) I only really need to say energy)). As the cause of action in the universe is heading towards TE at all times, then technically any change in the course of time would minutely alter this, meaning it would either be impossible to time travel (but that defeats the object of the topic) or the universes time lines would meet (ending in no net change in entropy)
i didn't really ask it was more the dude gave the worst definition of entropy i ever saw but dS = dQ/T or S = k
Bln(W) would have been a quicker answer than the macroscopic arrow of time asymmetry principle
thanks for playing anyway tho little girl
Quote from: ShinyInfernape2000 on July 18, 2013, 22:09
xD
Btw I would go back in time to watch my childhood and see Jesus.
"why is he an arab dude? are you sure this is jesus?"
Quote from: well then we'll have a tonic water party on July 21, 2013, 17:13
i didn't really ask it was more the dude gave the worst definition of entropy i ever saw but dS = dQ/T or S = kBln(W) would have been a quicker answer than the macroscopic arrow of time asymmetry principle
thanks for playing anyway tho little girl
You contradict yourself. I am, as you put it, 'the dude', yet you then say 'thanks for playing anyway tho little girl', you refer to me as both genders despite the fact my profile clearly says male.
Also, I know that my definition of entropy isn't great; I'm awful at explaining/defining, and Entropy isn't exactly on the GCSE curriculum.
Back on topic; I'd probably go back to 1980ish and shoot Joel Schumacher before he even went near a camera
Quote from: Робин on July 21, 2013, 17:24
You contradict yourself. I am, as you put it, 'the dude', yet you then say 'thanks for playing anyway tho little girl', you refer to me as both genders despite the fact my profile clearly says male.
Also, I know that my definition of entropy isn't great; I'm awful at explaining/defining, and Entropy isn't exactly on the GCSE curriculum.
Back on topic; I'd probably go back to 1980ish and shoot Joel Schumacher before he even went near a camera
"the dude" is the quack98 guy who weaved some yarn about entropy being part of some wishy-washy abstract butterfly timeline effect stuff and i sat there being self-righteous because im doing a degree in chemistry
i called you a girl b/c well i'd say "figure it out" but in your last post you wrote "but he asked" and well lets see if you can figure it out now
It's still the username you registered with, so it's your official username.
I might go back in time and correct the things that may have been unreasonable coming from me.
Quote from: well then we'll have a tonic water party on July 21, 2013, 17:13
actually forget making out w/ past me i would go back to when puk was good whenever that was
that was the day before i joined for the first time :D
really interested to go back in time and steal every religious book in the world, hide them, go to the future, and see what changes.
BUT AGAIN, butterfly effect. Maybe in a 'whatif' alternate dimension or something.
Quote from: Робин on July 21, 2013, 20:23
Quack98 is my old username
well this is awkward
i guess we BOTH learned an important lesson in looking at peoples profiles properly today! (i noticed you left this bit out in your reply but i hope you didn't assume i was a dude b/c science speak because that'd be sexist and scientific academia already has a sexism problem)
im not sure if you're going to persue science beyond mandatory GCSE Science so i dunno if you'll read all this so im gonna fake-quote it so you can skip if it you don't care but im hoping someone will find it useful so here's a small lesson on entropy up to pre-statistical thermodynamics
Quotebut what you were proposing (entropy = time) involves talking about quantum mechanics and time asymmetry and macroscopic/microscopic states and something called "Loschmidt's Paradox", i was just being crabby b/c you were an idiot and didn't look at my gender symbol there on the left but yeah like i said its a bit too wishy washy for a proper definition of entropy w/o sitting there and actively talking about certainty of Arrow of Time and superimpositions of things and invoking statistical thermodynamics
if you choose to persue physics or chemistry past GCSE which i think is a good idea (im obvs biased), until you get up to undergrad level, entropy is more best described as "disorder in a system" and "things like to be disordered = they increase in entropy" which is very laymans terms but it has to be up until uni level/A level physics without saying stuff that makes arsehole scientists like me mad or ultimately confusing/boring the hell out of teenagers and annoying teachers with faux-smartass questions "but like, if its MORE entropy then like, why is ΔS negative? like ohmygod, talk about stupid?"
until then its about stuff like "solid ---> liquid" or "liquid -> gas" = an increase in entropy b/c the particles are more disordered (and vice versa, a liquid becoming a solid means the molecules are less disordered and thus an overall decrease in entropy)
a process like X ----> Y + Z is also an increase in entropy (one molecule to two [or more] molecules) and again, vice versa b/c entropy favours more seperate molecules rather than less molecules b/c of stuff to do with Configurations of States which you won't learn about for a good while yet
from there you combine it w/ Thermodynamic Mathematic Principles to go onto stuff about something called "gibbs free energy" which tries to predict whether stuff will or won't happen by itself via entropy and basic thermodynamic principles
gibbs free energy explains why ice melts and why liquids mix if left over time and how you can smell a fart on a bus (most of these have a "negative gibbs energy change") and helps to explain why entropy is a factor with regards to the heat of things making stuff happen i.e. why sometimes you need to be above a certain temperature to make a reaction happen
and then it gets into complicated stuff like Actual Reasons why people salt the roads when its icy (stuff about molalities and equilibrium chemistry and solvents/solutes and an impure solvent having a lower melting point than a pure solvent] and how you can explain it all w/ the power of Maths
but even to understand how it works properly even at that level you gotta be solid w/ algebra and calculus and basic thermodynamic principles MATHEMATICALLY otherwise its just dG and dU and VdP and funny ∫ symbols and you have no idea why one equation = the other and you get an F in the exam
hence why its handwaved in general until uni-level thermo classes/A Level Physics and its left to be this magical force of disorder b/c thats the only real way of getting it across until then
and then you get to statistical thermodynamics and quantum mechanics and then suddenly it's magical forces again but you kind of have powerful Maths Theory behind it this time as opposed to having read a half-remembered New Scientist article like most peoples ideas of entropy
this is what people mean when they talk about the second law of thermodynamics and entropy because a lot of things prefer a higher entropic state and tend to evolve unreclaimable entropic energy (commonly another way to think of entropy in a more real-world sense is "entropy as unreclaimable energy in the form of inevitable heat loss" if that helps you understand the 2nd law of thermodynamics better)
and eventually all energy in the universe will become unusable energy hence the whole thing about thermal equilibrium you were alluding to which is heat death
there's talk at the moment about gravity being something to counter this heat death and a lot of cosmological quantum theory that i only know a little bit about only b/c MY PARTNER (megaphone feedback sounds) did his PhD in black holes and knows a tonne more about cosmological quantum physics gravitational su(N) crap than i do but he's a maths lecturer and im a chemist in training
i guess i get too caremad when people talk about science principles and it turns out they're actually doing a bunch of handwaving and navelgazing about stuff like entropy being a magical force of chaos cos of The Scientists Dialemma where people think they understand quantum mechanics b/c they read/saw The Watchmen once and they try to talk to me about How Much They Know About Quantum Mechanics its all in the mind maaaaan the universe is infitnite possibilities maaaaaan
and they do a meandering stoner rant which ends up them less admitting they don't actually understand the Copenhagen Interpretation at all and more "i did a form of neuro-linguistic programming without realising it" but its a feelgood story about how they solved their own self-esteem problems via willpower so i keep quiet cos its easier and also polite
but entropy deffo ain't a feelgood story ever in science at all thats literally the first thing you find out about it
obviously im a lot less anal about it in real life b/c this is the internet and its easy to sit around and be an arsehole like i am on here but ehhhh
well that was my boring science rant thanks for listening like i had fun talking about it because im gay for science anyway so everyones a winner
i wish i could get in a time machine and escape my own boring rant about physics
p.s. if anyone else wants to get into a time machine and escape my crappy/boring posting sorry in advance but it's a universal constant no matter which universe you escape to unfortunetly
I'm not sure why I put 'he', Ive known your female for ages :( oh well...
As for pursuing science, I don't think there's enough money in science based jobs, so it'd probably only be to A-level, but I read your speech(?) anyway ;D
As for whatever principle I was using; I'd just assumed that to make sense based in my knowledge of both entropy and 2nd law, I didn't realise it was an actual theory...
Back on topic; changed my mind, I'm now shooting either Adam or Eve and see how nature meets those timelines up >:D
Quote from: Робин on July 22, 2013, 09:28
As for pursuing science, I don't think there's enough money in science based jobs
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ok (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/article-2269520/Best-paid-jobs-2012-Official-figures-national-average-UK-salaries-400-occupations.html)
idk what youd count as science-based. it depends if you include maths/tech/engineering or not, maths opens up a whole load of boring-looking but high-paying accountancy jobs.
/beaten to death by angry mathematicians
but that average yearly salary for bog-standard straightforward physical scientists aint looking all that shabby, even if you ignore all of the not-100%-science-just-using-bits-of-it jobs.
iirc STEM subjects are used in a lot of jobs or are generally good degrees to have because it makes you Look Good and like you can handle... sciencey stuff??
wait, are the government still waxing lyrical about how the countrys running out of scientists or did i imagine that to make myself feel better?
not that it matters all that much, do something that You Enjoy because its not worth doing something thats high-paying but (you cant stand) if you develop an alcohol dependence just to get through the course and/or the job you wind up with.
im just saying if thats the only reason youre dismissing science then maybe Reconsider.
but if thats just the cherry on the icing of the I Dont Want To Do Science cake then fair enough haha.
welp all that is what i keep telling myself (sighs), maybe i should use a time machine to go back and give myself a boot up the arse when i least expect it, to get my act together and work hard.
at this rate all im hoping for is a job which pays off my student loan and hopefully doesnt make me want to stab myself in the face 8+ hours a day.
id say "ill go back in time and save myself the debt and sense of crushing failure" but then i wouldnt have met Cool People and learnt stuff about this course/done stuff that i do love... honest... i have to... i love chemistry..
um.
stay in school kids.
do something you like.
be happy.
......
peace.
Well, I've got a time machine now! Hmmmm..... I know! Let's kill Hitler!
OK, bad joke.....
First I'd go forward in time to find the best cure for cancer that is available, then I'd go back in time and save my friend.
If I told you, I'd have to eradicate you.
I would've drafted Sammy Watkins and not Justin Gilbert
Also would've kept Cleveland from selling to Haslam.
My friend's mother.
So I can be his dad.
Still not going to say sunce I would have to make sure no one would ever know what I did but some of the deeds would benefit the future.
id stab my past self thru the heart with an ice pick so i wouldnt have to read their terrible posts. jesus christ. //drowns self in saucer of water//
I'd watch the Egyptians build the pyramids. And film it.
'It was aliens'. Honestly...
someone else has probably already said it, but i'd go to where the winning powerball ticket was sold the day before it was sold, never worry about anything with money again, and buy a whole bunch of planet fitnesses for that guaranteed ROI, use that money for other fun adventures in time.
Quote from: Milsap on October 12, 2015, 09:20
'It was aliens'. Honestly...
tell me about it lmao
a lot of "it was aliens" sentiment re: egyptians is dogwhistle racism, because people literally can't believe black people in the past are capable of building that stuff on their own
Slave labour, wasn't it? Lottie would know more than me.
Most of them would have been paid. Possibly decent wages too, seeing as they were building the legacy of their ruler, who was effectively a God on earth. Probably a few slaves too though
i would go forward 10 years on my present trajectory to see how i am/if i'm alive so that i can come back and correct and take action to optimise happiness at that point so that even if it all falls apart after that i can in that one moment be happy