I know, I know, lapras doesn't need an evolution, it's stats are already good. But this is supposed to be a creature of legend, maybe even a mega evolution for Lapras? Anyway, here it is:
(http://s22.postimg.org/3kxj928zl/image.jpg)
Please excuse both the faintness of the drawing, and the awfulness of it.
Here's the info on it:
Laprantis
Type: Water/Dragon
Abilities: Shell Armour/Water Absorb
Hidden Ability: Marvel Scale
Weight: 350kg
Height: 3.2m
Base stats/Lapras base stats (for comparison)
HP: 145/130
Atk: 90/85
Def: 90/80
Sp Atk: 105/85
Sp Def: 110/95
Spd: 60/60
BST: 600/535
And it's level up moves:
Start: Watergun/Growl/Sing
4: Icy Wind
8: Confuse Ray
14: Water Pulse
20: Aqua Ring
26: Rain Dance
32: Dragon Pulse
38: Ice Beam
44: Brine
50: Hydro Pump
56: Megahorn
62: Sheer Cold
70: Hydroshock (signature move, explained below)
Hydroshock:
Type: Water/Dragon (Uses waters STAB & Rain, but Dragons Weakness & Resistance)
Power: 80 (seems low, but with dual STABs, any higher would be broken)
Category: Special
PP: 5 (Max. 8 )
Accuracy: 95%
Tutor moves
-> Aqua Tail
-> Block
-> Draco Meteor
-> Dragon Pulse
-> Drill Run
-> Earth Power
-> Heal Bell
-> Hyper Voice
-> Icy Wind
-> Iron Head
-> Iron Tail
-> Outrage
-> Signal Beam
-> Sleep Talk
-> Superpower
-> Zen Headbutt
TM list
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM29 Psychic
TM30 Shadow Ball
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM52 Focus Blast
TM53 Energy Ball
TM55 Scald
TM59 Incinerate
TM68 Giga Impact
TM69 Rock Polish
TM78 Bulldoze
TM79 Frost Breath
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM85 Dream Eater
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Pluck
TM90 Substitute
So, any ideas or criticism is welcome, I just want to make it as close to decent as I can. I want it to be roughly top OU in terms of competitive-ness, if that helps gauge how powerful it's intended to be.
I think it could have moves like Toxic/Draco Meteor/Earth Power/Focus Blast/Recover/Megahorn/Horn Drill and possibly a fire move? Fire Blast is a no-no for something like Laprantis. Possibly Flamethrower...or not, maybe a simple useless Incinerate in the move pool would suffice.
About that move...that essentially means that the power is huge under the rain, like near to 250? Typing it as either water or dragon would be easier, as a 95 accuracy move like that is broken in the rain, so you've got your Top OU title straight away.
I'll work on the TM list/tutor list ASAP, but I certainly agree with the ones you've posted. I agree that fire blast would be a little OP, but flamethrower wouldn't be overpowered.
As for the move, I honestly forgot about rain. It'd basically be as powerful as hydro pump but with better accuracy. Maybe it could work as Water for STAB but dragon for damage? I just want it to be something obscure for a signature move. (As this is going to be part of a trio, alongside Torkoal & Tropius evos)
Ill help tweak the movelists if you wish.
I do like that last idea. You could essentially use that for everything not Steeltype, and Surf for Water STAB. Go ahead with it if you wish.
Oh, thank you, that would be a great help! I'll fix the original post with the new mechanics for the signature move, and I'll make a start on tutor moves
Good list there. Most of them bar Superpower and the Dragon moves are what Lapras gets anyways, so it's realistic.
For TM moves, I would say Dragon Claw shouldn't be able to be taught to Laprantis because it has no real claws as far as I can tell. Volt Switch/X-Scissor/Stone Edge/Psyshock shouldn't either, but the rest are up to you.
Yeah, they all make sense not to be on, I can't imagine it would have much use for dragon claw anyway.
You've done well with the TM list there too. I do think that Energy Ball is somewhat strange for a pokemon like Laprantis, but the Dragon typing makes that seem alright. Dragon Tail and Scald are great additions (though how did Lapras not get Scald anyways?!?).
Is there anything else for the movelist? I'm pretty sure the egg moves will remain the same.
Now as for abilities, Hydration is Lapras' hidden ability...should it stay like that, or could Laprantis gain something like...Marvel Scale or possibly Rain Dish. What do you think?
Quote from: Spriter SR|XL on August 24, 2013, 12:01
You've done well with the TM list there too. I do think that Energy Ball is somewhat strange for a pokemon like Laprantis, but the Dragon typing makes that seem alright. Dragon Tail and Scald are great additions (though how did Lapras not get Scald anyways?!?).
Yeah, I thought Lapras should have scald as well, especially with its Dragon-esque form. As for energy ball, I thought it went well with lapras learning things like Psychic & 'energy' moves like thunderbolt/hyper beam etc.
Quote from: Spriter SR|XL on August 24, 2013, 12:01
Is there anything else for the movelist? I'm pretty sure the egg moves will remain the same.
I'd say they'd stay the same as well, after all, Lapras isn't being changed (bar being able to use eviolite, which could be interesting)
Quote from: Spriter SR|XL on August 24, 2013, 12:01
Now as for abilities, Hydration is Lapras' hidden ability...should it stay like that, or could Laprantis gain something like...Marvel Scale or possibly Rain Dish. What do you think?
I like the idea of Rain Dish, but I don't know if it quite fits, however marvel scale suits both its looks and stats, so I think that may be the best option.
So, that's abilities and moves done now, I think. That is, if it is fine and you like how it is now.
We need pokedex entry, possibly location and evolution method...I would suggest for the entry that a reference to the horn, the energy based attacks (as in, it has a capability of generating limitless energy? Or it lives in an area where it can generate energy limitlessly?) or a reference to its' nature might suit.
I think for evolution, maybe either level up holding a unique item (named something along the lines of 'Atlantis scale') or maybe make it so that it is an evlution, but no evolution method has been discovered
As for the Pokédex entry, I haven't thought about it yet, but I definitely think the points you made need to be explained in the entry.
And the location would likely be a one-off encounter as part of the story (like how the lake guardians were part of DPPt, but weren't the title legendaries)
The location could be some underwater encounter, after some evil team gains the power to reduce the seas to nothing because they angered Laprantis and you need to battle it to stop the rampage or something. But that's a new kettle of fish that doesn't need messing up yet...
As its part of a trio, I suppose that event could be part of a story where you'd need to becalm all 3, and then battle the title legendary (whatever it's be)
I agree, that would be good if not challenging.
As for height and weight...weight could be 350 kg and height could be 3.2 meters?
Classification: Atlantis/Submerging/Limitless Generation/Energy Source Pokemon?
Height and weight look fine, as 3.2m is about twice a short person, isn't it?
As for classification, I think Submerging Pokémon is good, but I also quite like Atlantis Pokémon, which of the two do you think is best?
Classification wise...yeah, Atlantis seems best.
I think the last thing is done, unless there's other stuff I missed...
I think that is it, I'll upload Torkoals evolution later today (2nd in the trio)
So, if the Lapras Evo was a dragon type, does that mean the other two will be Fire/Dragon and Grass/Dragon? Looking forward to them now.
Yep, that's right. Here's Tokoals evolution:
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Torkoalsaur (Any ideas for better names are more than welcome)
Type: Fire/Dragon
Abilities: White Smoke/Flame Body
Hidden Ability: Shell Armour
Weight: 450kg
Height: 2.9mm
Base stats/Torkoals base stats (for comparison)
HP: 120/70
Atk: 100/85
Def: 170/140
Sp Atk: 100/85
Sp Def: 80/70
Spd: 30/20
BST: 600/470
And it's level up moves:
Start: Ember/Smog/Withdraw
4: Rock Throw
8: Curse
14: Fire Spin
20: SmokeScreen
26: Flame Charge
32: Dragon Claw
38: Protect
44: Lava Plume
50: Iron Defence
56: Eruption
62: Fissure
70: Pyroshock (signature move, explained below)
Pyroshock:
Type: Fire/Dragon (Uses fires STAB & Sun, but Dragons Weakness & Resistances)
Power: 80
Category: Special
PP: 5 (Max. 8 )
Accuracy: 95%
Tutor moves
-> Outrage
-> Stealth Rock
-> Draco Meteor
-> Iron Tail
-> Zen Headbutt
-> Drill Run
-> Dragon Pulse
-> Iron Head
-> Signal Beam
-> Superpower
-> Dark Pulse
-> Magic Coat
-> Earth Power
-> Sleep Talk
-> Snore
-> Heat Wave
-> Thunder Fang
-> Fire Fang
-> Endeavor
I'm going to start working on tutor moves and TM moves, so any suggestions would be helpful!
Tutor Moves should include Outrage, Draco Meteor, Zen Headbutt, Dragon Pulse, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Signal Beam, Thunder Fang, Fire Fang, Uproar, Block, Magic Coat, Hyper Voice, Earth Power, Superpower, Dark Pulse, Snore, Heat Wave, Pain Split and Role Play.
That looks good to me, but you can chop or change easily, if needed.
Thanks! I've heavily based the list of yours, but swapped/removed/added a few. I really appreciate all your help though, thanks!
Looks awesome then.
TM list could be Torkoal's normal list, but with stuff like Dragon Tail/Thunderbolt/Focus Blast/Rock Slide included.