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CoroCoro leaked and there may be something call mega evolutions, but for certain pokemon. Note, this is not 100% confirmed.

Here's some that are showcased in the info

MegaMawile with huge power
MegaAbsol with magic bounce (what the Hell?)
MegaMewtwo (Legend so, really just a form)
MegaAmpheros
MegaLucario with adaptability

And my personal favorite:

MegaBlaziken with speed boost.

*Starts drooling*

So, I don't think it's true, but what are your thoughts?

Edit: It is now confirmed! It's legit!

I wasn't too crazy about the idea at first, but I looked at them on blocked and I have to admit they look pretty cool.

And normally I wouldn't believe in a rumour like this, but blocked and ONM have both reported it as fact, so it does seem probable.

I'm hoping these mega evolutions aren't real. I don't really like them, aside from Mawile.

all of my what.

is anyone else reminded of digimon?

Quote from: Sappy on August 08, 2013, 16:26
is anyone else reminded of digimon?

Yeah, it was one of the first things that came to mind. :s

This is all confirmed, thanks to corocoro's cover.

YES! MegaBlaziken! Goodbye derpape! woot woot. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Also, there's a MegaMewtwo, which explains what that Newtwo is.

Also, did anyone catch the abilities? Speed Boost MBlaziken, HUGE POWER MMawile and Magic Bounce Absol.

Might wanna edit in that this is confirmed, SB2000.

I don't know I feel this is a step in the wrong direction.

I've loved every bit till now, hell I adore the 3 new Pokemon.

Just I liked the idea of a maximum of 3 stages. I know Pokemon can have more than one option to evolve into, but there was only a maximum of "3 stages". Why not just make the Absol and Mawile ones evolutions? :(

they look so dumb
please let them be fake
PLEASE let them be fake

Quote from: Liam on August 08, 2013, 16:26
Yeah, it was one of the first things that came to mind. :s

Thank you, now I can come out and say this with pride.  My GOD

Where was it confirmed?

This better lead to a MegaLapras. Sure, I'm certain not every final form evolution/non-evolving/legendary's going to get one (That would be a lot more work for Gamefreak onto of designing new Pokemon), but I want my MegaLapras damnit!

And possibly a scary MegaTyranitar too. XD

Quote from: Lord Raven on August 08, 2013, 16:43
Thank you, now I can come out and say this with pride.  My GOD

Where was it confirmed?

blocked got it from the cover:

"16:30: This is all confirmed thanks to CoroCoro's cover"

You go to blocked too?

When I heard the names I rolled my eyes. Then I saw them.

I really don't like the Ampharos, but Mawile really needs a boost, and I quite like the Blaziken and Lucario.

... And that Absol. My GOD, that Absol, I am in love. I could be brought around to this. I guess the moral of this generation is, let's not have knee-jerk reactions to silly names - when you actually see what it is, it might not be as bad as you think.

If Blaziken gets a mega evolution, could it be assumed that the other starter Pokémon will also receive one? :-/

The best case scenario for the mega- prefix is that the localization crew are most likely going to change it.  Remember Megayanma?

EDIT:  Mega-megayanma...  -_-

Hey hey hey, can we also look at some of the abilities these Pokemon are getting? Provided it finds a way to overcome its pathetic Sp.Def/Speed, powered up Mawile with Huge Power could become a MURDEROUS physical sweeper - plus that Fairy typing, though it is now going to /seriously/ fear Fire types.

Speed Boost MegaBlaziken is undoubtedly going to be banned within a week. OP by far.

Adaptability... Might be good on MegaLucario if the Steel Type gets some better moves. After all, it's a sweeper, so additional STAB doesn't hurt at all. It's not incredible, but it's not bad either; better than Inner Focus, arguably better than Justified.

MegaMewtwo, Insomnia... Meh. I guess if it becomes used in Uubers, this might affect Darkrai or something, but then again dark type.

But that Absol. Magic Guard? Are you serious? Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is a bid to give Absol a much-needed boost. Sure, it's fragile, but then it's going to be brilliant at instilling paranoia. I'd bet my bottom dollar this MegaAbsol is going to show up in OU, at least for a bit.

Quote from: Liam on August 08, 2013, 17:02
If Blaziken gets a mega evolution, could it be assumed that the other starter Pokémon will also receive one? :-/

Hopefully, I don't like the limelight it'll be getting if at least MegaSceptile and MegaSwampert don't exist. There's too many Blaziken fanboys in the world already -.-

They've shown MegaBlaziken but nobody else.

Proof of a Ruby/Sapphire remake?! :police: :police:

Quote from: Liam on August 08, 2013, 17:24
They've shown MegaBlaziken but nobody else.

Proof of a Ruby/Sapphire remake?! :police: :police:

MegaAbsol and MegaMawile too, did you notice? ;)

I hate to say this but...

I NEED THAT MEGA BLAZIKEN NOW!!!

These new mega evolutions look hella swish, I like them. I'm interested to see how many Pokémon get them too, are they gonna go full out and give one to every Pokémon or just a select few?

And then there's the effect they'll have on competitive battling. I'm not a big Pokémon guy nowadays but I'm kind of excited to see what will happen to the metagame now that these Pokémon exist.

Just thought I'd point out that all of these are fan-favourite Pokemon often making it onto peoples' top ten lists, but are, with the exception of Blaziken, not great for competitive play. Mawile and Absol in particular are always being complained about - people love them as Pokemon, but they'd be destroyed in tournaments. Maybe GF is trying to fix that.

^Lucario is good in competitive battling, too, and I don't think we can assume that these are the only mega evolutions. Although, I think you may have a point in making some of the Pokémon more available to battle with.

Quote from: Liam on August 08, 2013, 17:24
They've shown MegaBlaziken but nobody else.

Proof of a Ruby/Sapphire remake?! :police: :police:

Blaziken is Pokemon #6 in the ruby Pokedex

There are two games in this generation revealed so far

6/2 = 3

Half-life 3 confirmed

Quote from: Lord Raven on August 08, 2013, 17:48
Blaziken is Pokemon #6 in the ruby Pokedex

There are two games in this generation revealed so far

6/2 = 3

Half-life 3 confirmed

And Blaziken is 3rd Generation.

HALF-LIFE 3 AND R/S/E REMAKE!

Is it weird I started watching my Mighty Morphin Power Rangers DVD Boxset this week?

Now I can't stop imagining those Pokemon transforming into their Mega forms like a Megazord sequence.... XD

I really want megasceptile to exist it would just be unfair not to on the other starters when choosing them in a remake! Hope megasceptile gets part dragon haha even though he won't be weak to fire :L also ampheros is now dragon? Whut...

MEGA EMBOAR! MEGA EMBOAR! MEGA EMBOAR!

you know, part of me wants to love this.  And I think I may.

It does sound an lot like late 90s GS Pokemon rumours.

I'm not disappointed or overly impressed wit any of the mega evolutions. However, I'm more fussed about the adorable bunny that was revealed <3 Looks like it's going to be one of my favourite pokemon ever tbh.

This is why you don't use a magazine to spread your information.

Heard a lot of bad things said about it, and I agree. As it is, this is just random powerups of random Pokemon with some lame additions, rather than offering anything new. It seems to be designed to appeal to the 'OMG More Numbers' crowd and especially the Japanese sorts - the special form from anime and sentai series.

If they'd revealed this with more of an explanation and a better reveal, there might have been something here, but right now it's us having to accept ridiculous-looking slightly improved version of Pokemon that could have been handled more nicely by adding new Pokemon or doing more with existing ones, instead of giving them a fancy haircut.

And to be honest, the 'powered up mode' look they seem to show here (like seen in, for an example I know of, the Dragonball series) feels too cutesy, anthropomorphic and bland. It' doesn't feel creative, which is part of what's so disappointing, anyone could have done this and it's more a tool of fake Pokemon creators than something that seems official.

Why not just make them evolutions? 4 stages won't break the game, this all just seems pointlessly convoluted.

That fairy mouse thing is adorable though.

They all just seem to be the standard 'mon with Sylveons scarf on  :dry:

They remind me of Burst Modes in Digimon, rather than the Mega stage...

Edit: I just saw MegaAmpharos... I think I love him already ;D

It feels like these mega evolutions would be something the enemy team would do, changing their DNA as a way of making them super-charged to make them stronger. Though it seems is this is something you can actively do in the game, so who knows...

They certainly look more badass. I do like the MegaBlaziken, I must say.

Holy crap this looks....kind of ridiculous and kind of awesome at the same time. But seriously did BLAZIKEN need another power boost? Jesus christ.

I'm really hoping that this ties in with the DNA theme of X/Y and that this is some kind of lesson on horribly mutated Pokemon that have crippling setbacks or some kind of out-of-control power thingy.

It's like uber went dangerously out of control, I'm still not sure what to think. Mawile does look very awesome though, and I'm kind of happy that we understand Newtwo a little better now.

So Ampharos's evo line is now  Barnyard animal to eventually Dragon?

OK. I like.

thouuuugh it does seem sort of a cop out rather than designing new evos eh, I wait to see it in full but I'm intrigued.

Quote from: Ledyba on August 08, 2013, 19:07
So Ampharos's evo line is now  Barnyard animal to eventually Dragon?

You gotta keep them wolf like Pokemon away from the herd of Mareep somehow.....

...DRACO METEOR! XD

I really want a MegaTropius, and a MegaPorygon-Z. And, what we all want, MegaArceus  :tongue2:

A Mega Emboar...

The almighty lord of Bacon.

MegaBlaziken is a crime against nature.

MegaMawile, however, is something I very much approve of. <3

[Obi Wan] - "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

'Mega-Mawile' and 'Mega-Absol' should have just been flat out evolutions of both Pokémon. Really do not like anything about the concept of a 'Mega' evolution, just feels like they're taking the basic biology of Pokémon evolution away from it and trying to cover up a drought of ideas with some very risky, shiny features.

Really not warming to me at the moment, not a knee-jerk or anything, just one of the few things I never thought would get introduced..

Quote from: f3raligatr on August 08, 2013, 21:02
[Obi Wan] - "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

'Mega-Mawile' and 'Mega-Absol' should have just been flat out evolutions of both Pokémon. Really do not like anything about the concept of a 'Mega' evolution, just feels like they're taking the basic biology of Pokémon evolution away from it and trying to cover up a drought of ideas with some very risky, shiny features.

Really not warming to me at the moment, not a knee-jerk or anything, just one of the few things I never thought would get introduced..

Same here, though I am willing to wait it out and see what form it takes. In over 10 years GameFreak haven't let me down. Thankfully it seems like it's initiated with a stone item, which means its somewhat artificial in game-canon so it could be phased out right away if it's not successful.

I guess the mewtwo movie will explain more about it, now that newtwo is confirmed for mega-mewtwo.

I love that Ampharos. Love it. Need it.



I'm pretty much convinced it's my role in this fandom to love stuff everyone else hates.

it seems very odd and un-pokémon-like... which i guess is the point of something being New. 
i think theyre quite cool looking woo. 
theyre not different enough to be evolutions all of them, but random power-up forms... sure, why not. 
some pokémon have already had other formes anyway. 
 
or maybe im not put out by them because ive been playing a lot of digimon recently.
resisting with all of my might to refer to them as "burst mode". 
 
i hope they are still called MEGA EVOLUTIONS. 
otherwise itll be the disappointment with yanmega not being called "megayanma" all over again :( 
 

They don't look as bad as i thought.

mawile looks cool! Ampharos tho <3

Quote from: Clairefable on August 08, 2013, 21:13
I'm pretty much convinced it's my role in this fandom to love stuff everyone else hates.

if not that then i can appreciate it or be more patient about it

Mega Blaziken reminds me of White Kyurem.
Mega Lucario reminds me of Giratina Origin Form.

Pokemon were once beautiful...

I am so torn right now. On the one hand, I kiiiind of like the new Blaziken, but on the other... Blaziken and Lucario didn't really need/deserve this. I mean, Blaziken is already Uber tier with Speed Boost, and they gave this new one... Speed Boost, with presumably better stats. I feel like I should be the last one to complain about Blaziken being broken, but... r-really?

I do like his color scheme, though. I can't decide whether this is the most awesome thing ever, or if I don't particularly like it. I'll need to see more clear pictures/models.

Mawile, though. YESSSS. Mawile and Absol look great, I am so excited for this. Ampharos looks okay too. I just... I don't know how to feel at all right now.

Edit: pretty sure Game Freak just follows me around and puts whatever they think I'll like into the new games (http://imageshack.us/a/img42/5465/blazikenanm.gif).

ampharos got some nice hair going

Three words.

Mega.

Yan.

Mega.

its a kids game if there aren't enough MEGAs and BRAND NEW NEXT STAGE EVOLUTIONS in it they get bored
cue 1000 nerds somewhere too old for pokemon going "but but but but!!! megaevolutions??? this goes against my headcanon!!! IMMERSION RUINED"



having said that though i really like megamawile cos ive always had a soft spot in my heart for mawile b/c of its nifty design and huge chomping jaw thing and cos im generally gay for anything steel/ghost/dark type ever (see Scizor, Honchkrow, Bronzong, etc.)

hopefully megamawile wont be horridly overused cos of its typing and i can continue being a hipster w/ pokemon no-one really likes (its been about 14 years but i still love Ditto as much as ever lmao)

MegaHariyama would be great because I was hoping get a Hariyama pre-national Dex in X and Y anyway, provided Makuhita/Hariyama are part of the new region and Hariyama wasn't just tech demo material, and also assuming I don't just stick with Pangoro. My hopes aren't very high, though. Hariyama isn't very popular and apparently not every fully-evolved (or otherwise) Pokemon is gonna get a Mega-Evolution... which anyone would be crazy to think they would anyway, but whatever, I like the six we have so far. (btw am I the only one who is reminded of Iris when I look at MegaMawile? Just a tiny bit? )

As for the other three Pokemon introduced:
*Pre-evo of Gogoat's pretty cute I suppose.
*I really like that rabbit. Was just thinking of how neat it'd be to have another rabbit Pokemon. Can't wait to see what it evolves into.
*I've sort of accepted the Pika-clones as a "thing" that the Pokemon universe just kind of sort of... has, like, discounting the fact that Pikachu is super popular so they thought "let's make more of the same" and then we got Pichu and the rest is history. But holy crap this thing looks so tiny that if it doesn't get an evolution I am going to flip. Then again I'm just sore that Emolga didn't evolve... but hey, maybe it'll MEGA-evolve! Hahahaha hum.

Looks like we have an update!

MegaEvolutions will indeed have stat increases. MegaLucario will have an increased attack, and MegaAbsol will have increased attack and speed. (I am now convinced that MegaAbsol is going to become killer in metagame.)

MegaEvolutions are confirmed as temporary in-battle features - the Pokemon can only evolve into its Mega form when holding the MegaStone for its species. Also apparently the Blazikenite isn't found within normal gameplay...?

Not all Pokemon will get MegaEvolutions, but with that being said, we are due to see a couple more in next week's Corocoro. The Master Tower has some connection with them, but we don't really know what The Master Tower /is/.

And regarding other stuff, Meekuru has the ability 'sap sipper', and it looks like we'll have a Super Training facility to raise EV points. Hopefully this will be a way for people to focus on EVs - maybe they'll have sections for different stats?

Herbivore Mega Swampert, or Utack and I riot.

But it's interesting that it's temporary in battle... does that mean it has to/can be activated whenever you want? And if so... how do you do it? This is getting more confusing by the moment, but what's clear is that you can't permanently have Mega Evolution forms, at least, not by what they've described. This could change up the metagame in huge ways...

I'm going to guess they change forms using hold items? :/ Like, if your Blaziken has the BlaziWhatsit when you go into battle then it'll be MegaBlaziken? So you can have you super special awesome Megamon but would have to sacrifice other hold items. If you get what I mean. It'll probably be nothing as simple as that.

@ RandB So, whilst we're wondering about the impact on the metagame, what will this do?

Personally, Blaziken will become solid Uber. An attack boost will give it a better chance of getting through it's main counter, Giratina/Giratina-O.

Absol will still be dark typed, so it can't make it up to OU, even with large attack and speed. This does depend on typing and defenses, which will probably remain the same. BL?

Mawile may still have a solid place in OU thanks to it's typing. Steel is good, but we don't know what a Fairy type does to the typechart. We'll see, but Huge Power may send it up to RU/UU

Newtwo will probably remain Uber like its counterpart.

Ampharos may well move out of NU, away from the depths where Raichu, Pikachu, Pachirisu and company reside. Electric/Dragon and Mold Breaker make it a mini-Zekrom, which is no doubt a good thing. It's speed may still suck, so higher RU at best.

But until we get the stats, these remain theoretical.

Anyways, new Pokemon, new MEs and the coveted typechart for the Fairy type next month. Let the speculation continue!

Why are we talking about their place in the metagame when we hardly know anything about them, don't know new moves, abilities and Pokemon and don't know all of the changes to the game mechanics? :P

Anyone think this sounds like Digivolution Disks in Digimon world DS? Y'know, they transform you into mega generation for one turn!

It's still fun to speculate, but anything we say here should be taken with a grain of salt, of course. But Claire, I heard it's something about activation or something, so maybe the item allows you to activate the form in battle, but doesn't necessarily auto-change it? Or maybe it does? (I'd prefer if it did, tbh)

I'm willing to bet Blaziken will remain Uber, yeah. Boost stats and Speed Boost seems crazy good.

Absol could have a spot in OU, for sure! Depending on how much Speed and Attack it gets, it could be a major player. And another Magic Bounce Pokemon? Sounds like potential OU material to me!

I'd see Mawile in UU or so, personally. Do we even know all of Fairy's strengths and weaknesses? Sure it can come in on Dragons, but that's not everything.

Newtwo is gonna be Uber, blah blah blah, nobody cares xD

Electric/Dragon will be amazing for Ampharos. No longer needing HP Ice will free a spot for HP Fire, allowing it to deal with Scizor and Ferrothorn. Ampharos already has great SDef, and possibly buffed stats will only make it harder to kill.

As for new Luke, double-STAB on Fighting (and Steel, which could be more important next gen) and higher Attack and probably other stats will probably bring about the second coming of SD Luke, as Luke this generation was pretty disappointing when we had access to Terrakion and such.

I'm quickly gaining excitement for all of these and have warmed up to new Blaziken very quickly. It seems like these are more akin to temporary forms, than evolution, and I like that. :>

There's an updated video, looks like they are definitely called 'mega evolutions' in english too.

Also rollerblading gym anyone? The vs screen looks cool.

But seriously GameFreak or TPCi...please change the font, it looks terrible. This is one of my biggest complaints so far.

Mid-battle changes too, so it doesn't appear to be just "hold the stone and auto-change", unless it happens upon being sent out, but that's not the impression I got.

...I'd be lying if I said I wasn't super excited for Mega Blaziken after seeing normal Blaziken freaking erupt into Mega Blaziken and shoot fire at my face. October please come sooner.

I suppose this was sort of cameo'd last gen, with Meloettas relic song, so could this play out in a similar way? i.e. spend a turn transforming? If it were to be move activated, it may not be as game changing as it seems (Yeah, Ampharos won't need HP ice, but he'll still lose a move slot for transforming moves)

Obviously, this is purely an idea of how the mechanics may work, no evidence or anything. But it does see, fairly likely, as Gen V did seem to be a bit of a testing ground.

Well the Mega Stone is needed for transformation, with no mention of needing a move slot for it. It may take a turn to activate, or perhaps it just does so upon being sent out (which, after seeing the video again, seems entirely more possible than I first thought)

Do you have a link for the video? I can't find it and I kinda want to see it...

Here's the new video, for anyone that hasn't seen it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHgE0vtOXU)

I thanks the creators of pokemon for making blaziken even more op and awesome than he already was! Luke looks cool as well, mewtwo looks way too op, and the other 3 needed it a lot.

Oh my God, I just realized, the Torchic event with Mega Stone is distributed from launch date. Which means I can begin X/Y with a Torchic starter with Speed Boost.

Oh yes. Oh God, I love this. The whole galaxy is just coming together for me right now and I am loving every second of it.

Richard, it seems that they are making X/Y just to please the two of us.

Quote from: Richard and Blaziken on August 09, 2013, 15:21
Here's the new video, for anyone that hasn't seen it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHgE0vtOXU)

Ah, thank you Richard.

I hope they make an Empoleon one, or a Meganium one.

I repeat...

MEGA EMBOAR MEGA EMBOAR MEGA EMBOAR

I wonder if they'll expand on these after the game's release via free DLC. Sort of like "Hey kids! A MegaTauros has just been discovered! Hook your 3DS to the Internet now to download the new item required to evolute Tauros!". Sort of like updating the game for new MegaEvolutions and whatnot.

I mean hey, if a game like Mystery Dungeon came have paid DLC...

(Continuing from ShinyEmboar's post)


Would get crushed be MegaBlaziken.

Robin, MegaEmpoleon would be awesome.

There's a MegaKangaskhan that looks like the baby Kangaskhan with Kangaskhan, and it has the ability to hit twice in one turn

damn

supposedly limited to one per party or something

Seeing pokemon that could use a REAL evolution get these crappy gimmick things instead is starting to piss me off now. >.<
If I see a mega farfetch'd there'll be hell to pay.

Seeing the baby out of Kangaskhan's pouch has blown my tiny little mind

Imagine battling against 5 Mega Kangaskhan in a horde battle.

That would be downright insane!

i wonder if it is limited to the last stage of evolution, if so then it looks like absol and the rest are stuck with never getting an evolution. Imagine if every stage had a mega evolution haha

Double Fake Out. That is all.

Mega Kangaskhan I don't know what I should think about it.

The second hit is apparently weaker than the first hit, so Parental Bond isn't as broken as it might seem...

double dragon dance doe

So long as Manaphy never gets that ability... Double Tail Glow would hurt. Badly.

>.< That sounds painful.

Quote from: Lord Raven
double dragon dance doe

Quote from: Робин
So long as Manaphy never gets that ability... Double Tail Glow would hurt. Badly.

Hang on, all I've heard is that ATTACKS get doubled up. Nothing about non-damaging moves. Can someone confirm this?

Quote from: Richard and Blaziken on August 11, 2013, 04:44
Double Fake Out. That is all.

Making a pokemon flinch twice in the same round is a bit redundant? O.o

^could you target more than one Pokémon in double battles, though? If you could it would be horrible.

But is that the mom attacking twice, or the child getting a turn too?

I think the child getting a turn, as the second hit is weaker, I believe.

Quote from: RocketMember002 on August 11, 2013, 22:40
Making a pokemon flinch twice in the same round is a bit redundant? O.o

It's more about two hits with a flinch, rather than one. This turns Kangaskhan into a very good revenge killer, not only having priority in Double Fake Out, but Double Sucker Punch as well.

Wait, double priority moves?! *Throws table*

I'm a litt.e upset he doesn't learn selfdestruct/explosion...

Double Hit turns into Quadruple Hit, which is pretty useless considering that the repeat is weaker than the first already is by base power. It's a shame Kangaskhan doesn't learn Fury Swipes and/or Pin Missile. If only Triple Kick could be more than Hitmontop's Signature Move... If Kangaskhan could learn it, its Mega Form may use it well. =)

I'm just GUESSING that multi-hit moves don't double up either, but I wouldn't say no to "Quadruple Hit". Wasn't obvious in my last post, but I'd totally use MegaKangaskhan, pretty hyped.

Kangashkhan has comet punch, potential 10 hits there.

I can still see Double-Edge or Return bring the way to go with STAB attacks, as even if multi-hit moves happen twice, you're taking too much of a gamble when Return or Double-Edge will almost certainly do more. Fake Out and Sucker Punch are the main things I can see Kangaskhan getting more use out of. Parental Bond now removes Scrappy, and with it, the ability to reliably smash through Ghosts, especially defensive ones like Jellicent that can just Will-o-Wisp you without risk of Sucker Punch. While Kangaskhan has access to Crunch, it already almost needs to run Fake Out and Sucker Punch to give it a niche in the metagame, plus a STAB, and a way to hit Steel types through Hammer Arm or something.

Crunch could be used over Sucker Punch, but I think (in higher tiers at least), it would be more detrimental to it than helpful, as double priority two turns in a row could be enough to put down a lot of setup sweepers. Should be interesting to see what becomes of Kangaskhan from here on, but in my speculation, it'll remain in lower tiers, only due to the fact that you can only use one Mega per team, but it should pop up in nearly every tier it's allowed in as a sort of anti-metagame Pokemon.

Quote from: ディック on August 11, 2013, 22:58
I think the child getting a turn, as the second hit is weaker, I believe.

So the child has the same moves as its mother, not its own moveset? XD

I believe so, I think it has to use the same move as well, but I don't know this for certain. (Can anyone confirm?)

Man check out the announcer's awesome voice in this new trailer.Oh, and that sick guitar. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BftrqE2CQiQ)
Also forgot to mention this earlier when I saw the trailer of just the first three, but wow, are all the older Pokemon's cries getting redone? Or is that just a new cry for MegaMewtwo? Either way, it's a pretty cool cry.

ABSOL!!!
Whilst I'm still in two minds about this mega evolution business, at least ABSOL is getting an attack increase and, more importantly, speed increase out of it. Oh, and MegaAbsol's design is pretty cool too.
I quite like most of the new mega-evolutions, with the exceptions of MegaMewtwo (which is going to be hideously powerful) and MegaKangaskhan (which looks somewhat plain).
Intrigued about how much the stats will be boosted for each of these Pokémon. If Absol's base speed is raised to 100 or more and it's base attack is raised to about 150, it's going to become massively powerful.
Officially hyped for these games now!

The trademarks leaked the mega evolutions;

Charizard, Blastoise, Gengar, Kangaskhan, Pinsir, Jynx, Gyarados, Aerodactyl, Mewtwo, Ampharos, Scizor, Houndoom, Tyranitar, Heracross, Gardevoir, Absol, Medicham, Banette, Latias, Latios, Aggron, Abomasnow

Dunno how official this is.  Siced for Tyranitar though!

Odd that Blaziken isn't mentioned on the list when the others that've been revealed are. If it's true, I'm still pretty excited to see them. Fire/Dragon for Charizard is almost guaranteed and maybe Water/Dragon Gyarados. Aside from that, though, I'm interested to see what happens with the rest of them.

Yeah this list is suspect to me.  It's possible the Blaziken trademark was already bought or something.  Venusaur also doesn't have one.  I'll find the article if you remind me tomorrow

I'm not surprised Heracross and Pinsir got new Mega Evolutions. Thank you for the update.

If that list is real, Mega Scizor is going to kill everything.

I agree it'll be frightening, but remember that you can only have one mega evo per team. Scizor already has a number of checks and counters, so unless it suddenly jumps up 70 base Speed points and doesn't have to rely on Bullet Punch, it'll still be manageable, I think. I mean, obviously anything could happen, not saying it couldn't be overpowered, but I think it'd take a huge boost in either Attack or Speed, or both, to make it broken.

I want Mega Poliwrath so it's not completely overshadowed by Politoed and Keldeo :<

MegaJynx and MegaBanette come to papa! although I do wish these were just "evolutions", not this weird mega thing. kind of sounds like something digimon would do.

So, regarding the Mega Pokémon, what Mega Pokémon are available? Will there be a Mega Pikachu?

Never was into Digimon in the slightest, but hearing people make the comparison so frequently is making me curious how form change, something that's been in Pokemon since FR/LG, is being compared to Digimon. Not that it's even necessarily a bad thing, but I mean... I don't get why now. They revert post-battle, and you can only use one per team, so... I don't understand. If someone could explain it to me, I'd honestly like to know.

Quote from: Richard and Blaziken on August 16, 2013, 13:02
Never was into Digimon in the slightest, but hearing people make the comparison so frequently is making me curious how form change, something that's been in Pokemon since FR/LG, is being compared to Digimon. Not that it's even necessarily a bad thing, but I mean... I don't get why now. They revert post-battle, and you can only use one per team, so... I don't understand. If someone could explain it to me, I'd honestly like to know.

Mmm im not the biggest digimon fan though I did use to watch the show, and IF my memory is correct (which to be honest, its probably not) im pretty sure digimon could "evolve" into megaforms, and then reconvert back intos original forms, though I think it might be because they lost the battle or ran out of data/energy. Im pretty sure one of the evolution stages in digimon (they name their various stages, because digmon can like evolve 4 or 5 times i think) is actually called "Mega Evolution" or something.

Oh, it's just the phrasing, I see. I agree, the terminology could have been much better, but I also think it's fitting since it's not quite evolution, nor is it quite form change. I have to say, I quite like the idea, after my initial hesitation. Putting self-imposed limitations on what a franchise can do will always lead to disappointment.

Please make mega Gengar Dark/Ghost. Alakazam needs to be taught a lesson.

mega jynx

mega abomasnow

MEGA JYNX

M E G A  A B O M A S N O W

hyperventilating please let these be real oh my god

Quote from: SpinnelSun on August 16, 2013, 13:11
Mmm im not the biggest digimon fan though I did use to watch the show, and IF my memory is correct (which to be honest, its probably not) im pretty sure digimon could "evolve" into megaforms, and then reconvert back intos original forms, though I think it might be because they lost the battle or ran out of data/energy. Im pretty sure one of the evolution stages in digimon (they name their various stages, because digmon can like evolve 4 or 5 times i think) is actually called "Mega Evolution" or something.

yeah, its pretty much just making fun of the name/concept. 
some digimon's perfect or ultimate forms look more or less like the adult form, but with armour/more arms/idk. so they use the name of the adult form plus a prefix... and a common one is "mega-". so yknow, megaseadramon (http://wikimon.net/images/3/32/Megaseadramon.jpg) is just seadramon (http://dma.wtw-x.net/DMA/DigimonStands/Toei/G/Seadramon.png) but hyped up a bit, with some spikes and a different colour. 
sooo with these you can see the comparison... megablaziken is blaziken with added bells and whistles. 
 
obviously people have been saying "[new thing] looks like digimon" for a long time now, its got to be tradition. but the comparison this time around particularly amuses me. 
and for that reason alone i really hope that they keep the names... theres something fantastically banal about the "mega-" prefix... "yeah its a blaziken but its like a SUPER blaziken.. no no, MEGA." 
 
welp ill just sit here and will Mega Meganium into existence. 
 
(also yes more jynx, there was that fake jynx evo going around a while back and gdi she needs one because i say so. and also because of electabuzz and magmortar). 
 

Quote from: Lord Raven on August 16, 2013, 05:12
Yeah this list is suspect to me.  It's possible the Blaziken trademark was already bought or something.  Venusaur also doesn't have one.  I'll find the article if you remind me tomorrow

I also find it odd how 5th gen isn't even touched upon.

Mega Absol....

Freakin' majestic.

Quote from: Sappy on August 16, 2013, 22:38
I also find it odd how 5th gen isn't even touched upon.

This is probably way too early for me to speak on this, and before anyone flips out about it - this is some really abstract speculation built on nothing but gut feeling but...

I wouldn't honestly be surprised if Gen V was largely forgotten. I feel as though it was trying so hard to be a 'reboot gen' that they just ended up creating a Gen I clone (only different). I do have a feeling that in both plot/Pokemon/characters we'll see Gen V almost entirely forgotten and Pokemon will continue on. Weird huh? It might not happen though, of course. It's just a personal inkling I have right now.

Quote from: Richard and Blaziken on August 16, 2013, 13:02
Never was into Digimon in the slightest, but hearing people make the comparison so frequently is making me curious how form change, something that's been in Pokemon since FR/LG, is being compared to Digimon. Not that it's even necessarily a bad thing, but I mean... I don't get why now. They revert post-battle, and you can only use one per team, so... I don't understand. If someone could explain it to me, I'd honestly like to know.

In digimon games there was an item called a digivolution disk, which basically evolved your digimon to its mega form for one turn, it attacked, then reverted to its ordinary form.

Aside from that, it's pretty much what ores have said

Speaking of Digimon, I've LOATHE them SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much! I think they're a rip off of Pokemon.

Digimon and Pokemon are two very different takes on the concept of monsters

Pokemon has much more of a collection aspect, Digimon has much more of a "defend the digital world" aspect

Digimon are ugly! Even 'Ickyicky' looks better than they do if you ask me.

Quote from: Captain Jigglypuff on August 20, 2013, 20:43
Digimon are ugly! Even 'Ickyicky' looks better than they do if you ask me.

For some, I'd agree. But for instance this:

(http://s21.postimg.org/bry7kxpg3/image.jpg)

Looks better than, as you said, Lickilicky, or Garbordor.

Quote from: Captain Jigglypuff on August 20, 2013, 20:43
Digimon are ugly! Even 'Ickyicky' looks better than they do if you ask me.

When someone makes a point do you literally just back yourself in a corner and throw out random nonsense just to cover up the fact that you hate it when people disagree with you?

Since when did this become the digimon hate thread? It's a completely different thing.
Besides, the changes for the MEs are either very slight or quite different. From what I have seen, Ampharos only has clouds, Lucario has longer hair things and red bits, Blaziken has a small colour change and fire, Mawile got an extra jaw and a bit if colour. Absol did get a larger change. I doubt Pokemon would try and be similar to Digimon, if Digimon is a so-called ripoff of Pokemon. As LR said, they have different purposes in them.

Tldr, Digimon is different to Pokemon, it isn't as much of a ripoff as one claimed blahblah.

Quote from: Lord Raven on August 20, 2013, 16:48
Digimon and Pokemon are two very different takes on the concept of monsters

Pokemon has much more of a collection aspect, Digimon has much more of a "defend the digital world" aspect

Sadly, this is not strictly true - as in Pokémon, where collecting Pokémon allows you to thwart an evil team and challenge the Pokémon League, in Digimon you must aim to collect stronger Digimon in order to defend the digital world and challenge the strongest Digimon in the world, so in both series the former and latter go hand in hand. Besides this, Digimon is becoming more concerned with the collection aspect, in both the series and the video games. The original Digimon video game (Digimon World) involved the collection of Digimon which often stopped you from embarking on the limited storyline, and the newest game (Digimon World Re:Digitize) was apparently intended to be a return to the original format of games, which proved to be more successful than a plot driven game where you had a limited option of monsters (like Digimon World 3).

If anything, the collection aspect of Digimon is a lot more free and unpredictable than in Pokémon; although most Digimon are grouped into families, they can digivolve beyond it or cross over, like Rosemon being a natural digivolution for both Lillymon and Lilamon, who are of separate (yet similar) Digivolution families, and also being a digivolution for Angewomon in Digimon World 3, who is completely unrelated to either of Rosemon's other Ultimate forms.

It'd be more correct to say that Digimon is a "rip-off" of Tamagotchi, since the idea of raising Digimon began as a V-Pet, where you begin with a very young creature which has a determinite lifecycle which involves evolving from one form to another, an idea which eventually evolved into the use of Digivices in the animé to trigger Digivolution, and V-Pets that followed the animé began to be shaped like Digivices. Digimon was just a natural evolution of a simple virtual pet, which became a concept of creatures living in a world parallel to our own.

For me, the main difference between Digimon and Pokémon is that Pokémon, being Pocket Monsters, are simpler in design and made to be contained for convenience, giving a Master-Pet kind of relationship, whereas Digimon, being Digital Monsters made entirely of data, are more complex in their entirety, and act as friends and partners who choose to embark with their chosen partner rather than be chained to them against their will. Digimon are a lot more ornate and complex in design than Pokémon, who often seem to be minimalistic in design. So I think anyone who says "Oh, X looks like a Digimon!!!" is just finding some excuse to not like something because they actually have no good reason to.

Admittedly, I was comparing the anime to the Pokemon video games (and the Pokemon anime while we're at it).  But the general fact appears to me that the purpose of Digimon is moreso to actively fight and defend themselves whereas the purpose of Pokemon is almost sportful in nature.

But yeah the video games do make the two very comparable.  But they still remain a pretty different take on the concept because Digimon, I've felt, was always much darker than Pokemon.  I feel like in order to say that Digimon is a ripoff or vice-versa you have to acknowledge the fact that one's success didn't influence the other to exist or vice-versa; they're very different entities, which is more what I was trying to get at than anything else.

Alright, let's get off of digimon please. So, your thoughts on mega mewtwo? I think that that just gave mewtwo another reason to be banned. Oh well, at least the ability sucks, I my opinion.

I think Mega Mewtwo is the best thing about the Mega Evolutions.

Why?

1) Mega Mewtwo is featured in the Genesect movie, meaning that we should have a proper canon explanation of 'mega evolutions' rather than being a shoehorned 'digimon' battle feature. This will no doubt be expanded upon in the games.

2) This means Mewtwo will probably play a part in the plot of the games too. Given Mewtwo is DNA altered, and there's evidence to suggest that Mega Evolutions will use some kind of DNA altering technology...I am going to speculate that Team Flare is responsible, meaning that there must be some kind of ties with Team Rocket involved. Maybe the two collaborating or fighting? The leak did say that Mewtwo has TWO new forms...maybe the game features a race between Rocket and Flare (man those names go well together) of who can use their 'mewtwoite' on Mewtwo and evolve it into X or Y Mewtwo...

@SB2K: Insomnia is actually Mewtwo's best ability, currently. It can't be put to Sleep via Dark Void, which makes things annoying for Scarf Darkrai. Current Mewtwo outspeeds Darkrai, and if that remains true with this form, it can switch in on an expected Dark Void, outspeed, and strike back with Aura Sphere if it's not choiced, or setup a Calm Mind if it is. Insomnia is not a bad ability by any means. Much more useful than Pressure or Unnerve.

Quote from: Richard and Blaziken on August 21, 2013, 03:19
@SB2K: Insomnia is actually Mewtwo's best ability, currently. It can't be put to Sleep via Dark Void, which makes things annoying for Scarf Darkrai. Current Mewtwo outspeeds Darkrai, and if that remains true with this form, it can switch in on an expected Dark Void, outspeed, and strike back with Aura Sphere if it's not choiced, or setup a Calm Mind if it is. Insomnia is not a bad ability by any means. Much more useful than Pressure or Unnerve.

I'm gonna enjoy that a lot. StallTwo might be a bit more viable, as it's bulk is by no means bad, so a Life Orb unboosted Dark Pulse might not KO...

I think I'm more interested in how the abilities they get will affect them.

Quote from: Turner on August 21, 2013, 01:58
2) This means Mewtwo will probably play a part in the plot of the games too. Given Mewtwo is DNA altered, and there's evidence to suggest that Mega Evolutions will use some kind of DNA altering technology...I am going to speculate that Team Flare is responsible, meaning that there must be some kind of ties with Team Rocket involved. Maybe the two collaborating or fighting? The leak did say that Mewtwo has TWO new forms...maybe the game features a race between Rocket and Flare (man those names go well together) of who can use their 'mewtwoite' on Mewtwo and evolve it into X or Y Mewtwo...

Would be interesting to see if you got a different mega stone depending on which game you get

Quote from: Turner on August 21, 2013, 01:58
2) This means Mewtwo will probably play a part in the plot of the games too. Given Mewtwo is DNA altered, and there's evidence to suggest that Mega Evolutions will use some kind of DNA altering technology...I am going to speculate that Team Flare is responsible, meaning that there must be some kind of ties with Team Rocket involved. Maybe the two collaborating or fighting? The leak did say that Mewtwo has TWO new forms...maybe the game features a race between Rocket and Flare (man those names go well together) of who can use their 'mewtwoite' on Mewtwo and evolve it into X or Y Mewtwo...

I would very much like that, and it would make the plot very interesting.

Insomnia DOES work better since Unnerve is usually useful in online batteles since not many in-game trainers have Pokemon hold berries aside from Rangers and Gym Leaders. But you can only battle them once normally. Pressure is probably best for Walls like Blissey to make them less of a threat with no PP left for powerful attacks.

I hope there's a mega Swampert, cause Blaziken and Torchic are both pretty overated. :-/

MS would be cool, but Blaziken is Ubers because of this:

Blaziken
4 HP/ 252 Attack/ 252 Speed
Speed Boost
Life Orb
Adament

Swords Dance
Protect
Flare Blitz
High Jump Kick

I think if there's a Mega Blissey a LOT of people will dread it as normal Blissey take FOREVER to KO if you don't have/use the right moves.

I heard that you can get Mega Venusaur, Mega Charizard and Mega Blastoise! They confirmed it (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blhaSxUJ-OU").

^Thanks for beating me to the punch.

I like Mega Blastoise

Both Mega Blastoise/Charizard look good.

... now this is getting ridiculous. :|

I have to say I was not impressed for a number of reasons when I saw Mega Garchomp.

What next? Mega Spiritomb? Mega Blissey? Mega Scizor? I quit life if we get Mega Salamence, I will slowly and painfully 'Fairy Wind' it to death.

I honestly can't think of a way for Wailord to become a Mega evolution other than possibly making it part steel amd giving it steel armor plates. That thing already has enough HP and cannot possibly get any bigger.

...It looks awful. Why does it look so awful.

I'm not impressed with Mega Garchomp. :police:

What a letdown.

why do we even need Mega Garchomp, is it not ridiculously powerful as it is? D:

another mega mewtwo form relaeased

I don't see the point in Mega Garchomp... nor most of these Mega Evolutions. Garchomp in particular is one of my favourite Dragon types and I love its design, whereas Mega Garchomp loses all of its subtle charm and replaces it with overbearing and unnecessary "ARGH I'M A STRONG DRAGON RAAAAAR".

I mostly don't like Garchomp's face. It's got this weird square jaw and it's like... what? It reminds me of this (https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2518199040/hndbagsc1787u9ystlrk.jpeg)

Garchomp has always been a top tier Pokemon, banned in 4th gen and only allowed into OU in 5th because of Rough Skin becoming an ability it has access to, since Sand Veil is broken. Giving Garchomp more power is kind of ridiculous, especially given the wonderful STAB coverage and movepool. Depending upon the Mega Ability, I can see this being banned easily.

Can mega evos hold items? Like, don't they need to hold a stone?

Quote from: ディック on September 11, 2013, 22:33
Can mega evos hold items? Like, don't they need to hold a stone?

Yes, but for offensive Pokemon, the boost in power mitigates the need for an item like a Life Orb or Choice Band, especially for a Pokemon like Garchomp that also has Swords Dance, who can Mega Evolve and SD in the same turn, skyrocketing his Attack stat in a single turn. Blaziken falls under this category as well, and I'm sure it'll remain banned this generation, as they have definitely broken it beyond how broken it was last generation.

Do we know stats now? As 'a boost in power' could be anywhere between an extra 5 Base Attack to an extra 50.

But I agree gen VI isn't looking good for competitive

(http://pokebeach.com/2013/09/news/0913/mega-mewtwo.jpg)

oh no
nintendo, please stop

I like Mega Garchomp. I am especially fond of the spikes on its body. I can see it being capable of using Spikes by shooting spikes from its body. Toxic Spikes would be a nice bonus.

That would be quite nice.

Quote from: Captain Jigglypuff on September 12, 2013, 01:34
I like Mega Garchomp. I am especially fond of the spikes on its body. I can see it being capable of using Spikes by shooting spikes from its body. Toxic Spikes would be a nice bonus.

Well, as for Mega Blastoise it would be the same Blastoise I would expect... and a lot more

I think a Mega Evolution for Banette would be cool. I'm thinking it could be a more sinister looking doll with hints of a voodoo doll such as a stitched evil smiling mouth instead of that zipper thing Banette has and it becomes part Dark type to represent black magic. And make it bigger and perhaps holding large pins which it uses as weapons and inflicting self-induced pain. It could learn Pin Missle and Twineedle. What do you think?

A rumor has been revealed, and although it isn't confirmed yet, the following Pokemon are said to get Mega Evolutions:

Gen 1: Alakazam, Machamp, Gengar, Golem, Exeggcute, Lapras and Dragonite

Gen 2: Meganium, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Xatu, Sudowoodo, Wobbufet, Scizor, Heracross, Tyranitar, and Celebi.

Gen 3: Sceptile, Swampert, Gardevoir, Sableye, Aggron, Zangoose, Tropius, Salamence and Metagross.

Gen 4: Torterra, Infernape, Empoleon, Luxray, Drifloon, Drapion, Carnivine, Abomanasnow, Porygon and Gallade.

Gen 5: Serperior, Emboar, Samurott, Zebstrika, Cofagrigus, Zoroark, Galvantula, Druddigon, Bouffalant, Volcarona, Genesect and... SCRAFTY!

Yep, I'm really psyched to see if we get a Scrafty one.

Note: I've left out the Mega Evolutions that have already been revealed.

Quote from: A Wild Scrafty on September 25, 2013, 16:22
Alakazam
I shall wield the mega spoons...
Meganium
YES I LOVE MEGANIUM <3
Heracross
Yay! Pink shiny!
Swampert
Also, Yay! Pink shiny!
Aggron
Hell yeah, Mega triceratops
Tropius
OMG A MEGA BANANASAUR <3
Salamence
Well... I wasn't banned in Gen V...

Meh, didn't want to quote like fifty times, so my additions in bold

If Druddigon gets a mega evo and not Hydreigon I will be extremely upset.

Quote from: Wolstenholme on September 25, 2013, 16:55
If Druddigon gets a mega evo and not Hydreigon I will be extremely upset.

I too would much rather see a Mega Hydreigon rather than a Mega Druddigon, due to Druddigon's abismal stats... And of course Hydreigon is a freaking Hydra.

Yeah but Druddigon is cooler

Quote from: Liam on September 25, 2013, 17:05
Yeah but Druddigon is cooler

Say it again, I dare you!


Aside from this, MEGA ZEBSTRIKA OMG.

Druddigon sort of needs it a lot more than Hydreigon does, but I'd still rather see Mega Hydreigon.

Mega Porygon please - Porygon 3D would be awesome.

Quote from: Turner on September 26, 2013, 01:15
Mega Porygon please - Porygon 3D would be awesome.

This. So much. Although, maybe a new porygon3, and then a mega for it and Z?

In an unexpected twist, Mega Charizard X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WFoT9oGtfc) was revealed today, with a typing of Fire/Dragon, no less.

Thoughts? Personally, I think this is pretty cool. Gives a reason to own both X and Y, and this is something Charizard really needed. The design is pretty cool, though the flames spewing out of the mouth kinda look weird to me.

This raises the question though... will all Mega Forms have separate X and Y Mega Evolutions?

Not sure I like the idea of pokemon operating differently in different versions. These megastones better be tradeable between them.

Aww man... Charizard X is too awesome to pass, but I already know I want Y...

if there is charizard x/y there would be x/y forms of venusaur and blastoise, too, quite exicted for those

and YESSSS CHARIZARD IS FINALLY DRAGON IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR TOO LONG AHHH :) :) :)

This is getting terribly interesting.

Aerodactylite is in the leaked games, now we have a pic of it:
(http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1380826242621.jpg)

That is almost too awesome xD

Shame it's only one per team... (It is, right? I haven't misheard?)

It looks like Lugia.....

Quote from: ディック on October 03, 2013, 20:11
That is almost too awesome xD

Shame it's only one per team... (It is, right? I haven't misheard?)

One per team, and it takes priority I believe (so if you chose to mega it will happen before the enemy attacks even if they're much faster).

^ah, okay thanks! Aww man, tough choice... I might get as many megastones as I can, and then switch around every now and again... Have different megas

According to a leaker, Aerodactyl has an Aerodactylite...so it has a Mega Evo!

Quote from: Spriter SR|XL on October 03, 2013, 20:17
According to a leaker, Aerodactyl has an Aerodactylite...so it has a Mega Evo!

I've seen a picture of it, it looks like Serj Tankian from SOAD. I like it, it's basic without being too cluttered and apparently its base speed looks to be around 150 (170 with beneficial nature).

(http://i.imgur.com/u2Jpwal.jpg)

POSSIBLE mega gengar, no idea if source is reliable.

(http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1380834532631.jpg)
And abomasnow.

(http://gifs.gifbin.com/032010/1269259657_omg_cat.gif)

Mfw MEGA ABOMASNOW

mega gengar is kinda lame but who cares ABOMASNOW please let this be real

Mega gyarados. Where is your god now?
(http://i.imgur.com/FbSiuN6.jpg)

Dragon type, please! xD

I wonder if it'll get Moxie as well? That'd be horrible, most likely...

Just... six... more... days...

Mega Gyarados looks awesome, I can't even believe all the fan service we're getting.

Notice Yveltal in the bottom there...looks like it's quite bulky from that HP stat.

I had no god so idc about MegaGyara killing everything

(http://i.imgur.com/mtgtVj7.jpg)
appears to be mega aerodactyl or however its spelled
also the battle background things lok pretty cool like is gyrados fighting in a volcano or something???

edit: mega gardevoir (http://i.imgur.com/UenL8Kp.jpg)
it is used by the champion, whos name is diantha

Rich where are you? You'll enjoy seeing that I'm certain :P

king apple, the background is likely to be near here:

(http://www.blocked.net/xy/th/desert.jpg)

My friend would probably squeal in excitement seeing a Mega Gardevoir. That is his favorite Pokemon and he always catches and trains a female with Trace.

Aww, Gardevoir's Mega Evo is really cute! I love the fancy ball dress, it's very pretty! Well, with MegaKen likely to be sent to Ubers, I can at least try out Mega Gardevoir! :3

Rich, I see it as more elegant. I can't see the cute, maybe it's the camera angle....

The big dress is cute, in my opinion. Elegant is a good word to describe her, but her big poofy dress just makes me think cute. I don't really think there needs to be an etiquette on describing Pokemon. xD

I know, but also, it's giving me this kind of "I'm going to kill you" look.

Quote from: Richard and Blaziken on October 07, 2013, 02:03
Aww, Gardevoir's Mega Evo is really cute! I love the fancy ball dress, it's very pretty!

Pretty much this. I didn't care much for Gardevoir, but this mega looks pretty cute!

Poofy-dragon slayer?

I wonder if there are gender difference Mega Evolutions like there are with normal Pokemon? The friend I mention whose favorite Pokemon was Gardevoir thinks a male Gardevoir is just wrong.

Some of these Mega- Evolutions are looking epic... Gonna have to keep switching my mega stones around so I can use all the ones I like. Of course, I'm mostly gonna use Mega Absol.

I am so excited by these megas! I can't wait to use them in-game!

So, uh, Corocoro have shown Mega Tyranitar and Mega Aggron. Not keen on either, which sucks because I love Aggron to bits.

BIG NEWS:

Someone just found a Medichamite which means Medicham also gets a mega evolution.

But why is this big?

Because way back in August a blog leaked a list of trademarks registered for Mega Pokemon and so far EVERY Pokemon in the list has gotten a Mega Evolution. The list?

Charizard,
Blastoise,
Gengar,
Kangaskhan,
Pinsir,
Jynx,
Gyarados,
Aerodactyl,
Mewtwo,
Ampharos,
Scizor,
Houndoom,
Tyranitar,
Heracross,
Gardevoir,
Absol,
Medicham,
Banette,
Latias,
Latios,
Aggron,
Abomasnow

YES YOU READ 'JYNX' CORRECTLY

That list is missing some, though (Venusaur, Blaziken, Lucario, Mawile, and Garchomp, off the top of my head), so it's possible that there's even more than what that list includes. I really hope so! Still, Mega Jynx sounds like a cool idea, and Medicham could use a boost.

Mega Pinsir becomes bug/flying...THE TYPE COMBO NOTHING WANTS TO BE. Urgh at least I'm getting Y so I don't have to shed a manly tear using it, poor Pinsir.

^You didn't notice Mega Pinsir's new ability, did you? It is called Aerate (I think) and turns all Normal attacks into the Flying type which makes Fury Attack doubly super effective against Heracross and Breloom. The typing isn't so bad. Pinsir needed another typing to begin with.

Fury Attack is still garbage unless it gets a power and accuracy increase. Think more on the scale of Return, Double-Edge (essentially Brave Bird) and the like. Body Slam has utility in that it can Paralyze, but isn't powerful enough to consider on such a fragile Pokemon whose health is ripped in half upon entry.

Prankster Banette could be interesting. Hard to tell what could become of this one.

Clefable is pure Fairy, turning her Fighting weakness into a resistance, gaining a resistance to Bug and Dark, and becoming immune to Dragon, while gaining a weakness to Poison and Steel. Quite a good trade, in my opinion.

Edit: One thing to consider about Pinsir is that you can choose if and when it's most beneficial to Mega Evolve (as with all Megas), so he'll only take 25% from Stealth Rock until you determine when it's to your advantage to Mega Evolve. Could be a late-game sweeper, when the opponent's team is weakened. I'd be very interested to see if it has the stats to pull this off.

Quote from: Captain Jigglypuff on October 11, 2013, 10:00
^You didn't notice Mega Pinsir's new ability, did you? It is called Aerate (I think) and turns all Normal attacks into the Flying type which makes Fury Attack doubly super effective against Heracross and Breloom. The typing isn't so bad. Pinsir needed another typing to begin with.

Yes I did, a more powerful aerial ace is not worth gaining weaknesses to two of the most common attacking types and a 4x weakness to another.

^Well I for one am sick of Normal/Flying types. We only have ONE pure Flying Pokemon and it is a Legendary. I'd rather see more Bug/Flying Pokemon than ten new Normal/Flying Pokemon in each gen released. The latter HAS to be the most common typing ever.

No, pure Water is the most common, iirc. The reason everyone's annoyed with Bug/Flying is due to the fact that it's both common, and terrible. Bug/Flying is horrible defensively, with 5 common weaknesses, one of which being a quad weakness to (Stealth) Rock. Offensively, Flying brings little of value to the table that Bug doesn't already have going for it, other than a STAB move to hit Fighting types with, and an immunity to Earthquake.

ANYWAY, Mega Medicham and Heracross have been revealed:

(http://www.blocked.net/xy/temp/00519.png)
Retains type and ability

(http://www.blocked.net/xy/temp/00540.png)
Bug/Fighting, Skill Link ability

Skill Link is odd... unless Heracross gets a new move, all it has to make use of it is Fury Attack, and I've discussed how pointless and useless that is already.

Additionally, Mega Gyarados is Water/Dark, and has Mold Breaker as it's ability. Stops Water Absorb, Storm Drain and Dry Skin from working, which is nice.

MEGA HERACROSS. My life is complete because a couple of weeks ago Dick caught a shiny Heracross and said I could have it. Shiny Mega Heracross, guys.


You saw it here first.

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Psychic, Trace

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Dark/Fire, Solar Power

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Electric, Intimidate

I'm gonna pass out, too much hype @_@

I can't see the pictures :( ^

Manetric looks... Interesting?

Omg that Manectric is simply amazing. I WANT IT NOW!! Wish I didn't preorder with Amazon hoping to get it early now, I could have it right now!!!

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Mega Scizor retains type and Technician ability. The only ones not on the list Turner posted are Jynx, Latias, and Latios, and those will probably be found in due time.

Damn it guys, wait for me, it's still Friday here ;-;

(Tablet working again, YESSSS)

I still await Mega Scrafty... I really need to get X and Y. After I get a 3DS.

Mega Heracross! it is glorious.

I was gonna get X but since it's a Y execlusive,  I'm going to switch.

Unless you can trade stones.  HMMM.

You can trade Mega Stones! It just might be difficult to find someone willing to part with one, but you can definitely trade Mega Stones :>

Oooooh, the base stats are hella huge.

Heracross has monstrous stats...185 base attack is insane. Mewtwo has 194 special attack too, and Alakazam is just...175 base special attack and 150 speed. Talk about powerful.

Also, I am really enjoying Lucario's Mega ingame, it's so fun to Mega Evolve and then smash face. Charizard's Mega Evo X has an amazing cry too.

So, is anyone particularly sold on any of these Mega Evolutions? Some of them are pretty damn lethal, or at least are huge improvements on old Pokémon.

Mega Mawile with base 105 attack and Huge Power is both a Dragon and Fairy slayer, and its pitiful base 50 speed can be mitigated by Sucker Punch and Pursuit. And if you de-Mega Evolve, you can use Intimidate on every switch in. And Steel/Fairy is amazing defensive typing (despite Steel being nerfed by no longer resisting Dark)

Mega Pinsir, unlike other Bug/Flying types is not double weak to Stealth Rock on switching in, and with Aerilate, it effectively gets Brave Bird out of Double Edge, and Qyick Attack becomes Flying type Priority. And it also gets Close Combat. So Mega Pinsir could be interesting, if a little predictable.

Mega Lucario has Adaptability Mach Punch and Bullet Punch. Need I say more?

And Shadow Tag Mega Gengar could be dangerous too.

So is there some stone to make Mawile into Mega Mawile?

Though I am a bit disappointed that there isn't a version-exclusive Mega Blastoise or Mega Venusaur like Mega Charizard has.

Sorry about the long post following, but in response to Webby, here are the only ones I'm excited about for the OU tier. Skip if you're uninterested, and again, I apologize:

Mega Venusaur is decent enough, I think it'll have a place somewhere, and has only a few exploitable weaknesses.

Mega Charizard Y will be popular on Drought team. Requires a spinner to be even remotely effective, but base 159 Sp. Attack will definitely see some use. Mega Charizard X has real potential with Dragon Dance boosting his base 100 Speed and buffing his nice base 130 Attack stat, while giving him a great offensive and good defensive typing.

Gengar looks like it could easily face a ban, even with the slight nerf to Shadow Tag, it's just too easy to revenge weakened threats with that base 130 Speed and 150 Sp. Attack. Zam will see a lot of use if it isn't banned, as it returns to the glory days of RBY where it has nearly unrivaled power and Speed in the OU tier. Trace is really interesting too, it could be a determining factor in many matchups.

Gyarados is hard to determine, but his new type is welcomed for sure. Not too sure what he'll bring to the table. Aerodactyl looks like it could see some real use this generation, though, since Tough Claws boosts a bunch of his moves to great or good levels of power. Scizor will be OU, enough said.

Mega Tyranitar... oh God this thing is going to be ridiculous. Absurdly high defenses in Sand and 164 base Attack... this is terrifying. Low Speed is low, but it's never stopped Tyranitar in the past. Loss of Leftovers could be an issue here, but I imagine it'll play like Choice Band Tyranitar with better defenses and the ability to switch moves.

Mega Blaziken is OP, but is he really with all the new Megas running around with insane Speed? Still, nothing can theoretically switch into any move he has access to, possibly even 2HKOing Slowbro after Stealth Rock with Shadow Claw off unboosted Attack (no calcs done, don't quote me on this). But the straw that breaks the camel's back is that Speed Boost and Baton Pass are legal on Blaziken now, since MegaKen has Speed Boost regardless of what normal Blaziken has.

Mawile has a nice niche, but it's yet to be seen how well it will perform. Remember, you're giving up something like Mega Alakazam to put a stop to Dragons and Fairys, the first of which will take a major hit in basically not having Outrage as a viable option anymore.

Mega Aggron. Filter. Dat Defense stat. I don't even know, Aggron looks like he could really be dangerous this time around. Loses STAB on Head Smash, as well as recoil-free Head Smash, but... base 230 Defense is kinda nuts.

Medicham has like... the highest unboosted Attack stat in the game after Pure Power or close to it? Base 100 Speed, but it has access to Bullet Punch and Fake Out, so that's something.

Manectric will have a lot more use this time around with huge Volt Switches, and he has tons of really awesome moves like Overheat and stuff that works well with Volt Switch's ability to do damage while escaping. Really excited to try him out.

Banette has Prankster and high Attack, so that'll be interesting to see what it does. Absol's Magic Bounce is great, until you factor in horrible defenses. Still, bounces status moves, so that's cool I guess. SD Luke will make a comeback this gen for sure.

Abomasnow fights back with some pretty good boosts to Ice and Hail in general this time around, but base 30 Speed is like... wow, you'll win weather wars until you have to actually battle something. Hope it doesn't have a Fire move and doesn't resist Ice Shard.

...You'll probably think twice about asking no one in particular next time. :<

I basically beat the game with Blaziken alone. Except for Siebold's battle, winning against the Elite Four and Diantha was too easy. The first time I only used two Pokemon with the others as decoys if I had to use a Revive. The Steel battle was over in only four minutes. One Blaze Kick to Klefki, Scizor, and Aegislash and they were done for. Probopass only took awhile due to it having Sturdy and two turns being spent on a Full Restore. I swear, as long as you have Speed Boost Torchic, you can practically beat anyone in the in game battles. Ramos and Wulfric's battles against me were over under two minutes. It was a bit sad.

Wall of text ahead... lots of individual comments on Pokémon~
Comments in bold~

Quote from: Richard and Blaziken on October 20, 2013, 14:16
Sorry about the long post following, but in response to Webby, here are the only ones I'm excited about for the OU tier. Skip if you're uninterested, and again, I apologize:

Mega Venusaur is decent enough, I think it'll have a place somewhere, and has only a few exploitable weaknesses.

I suppose Mega Venusaur is good enough to use over standard Venusaur outside of Sun teams, but I think this is one of the smallest changes of all the Mega evolutions.

Mega Charizard Y will be popular on Drought team. Requires a spinner to be even remotely effective, but base 159 Sp. Attack will definitely see some use. Mega Charizard X has real potential with Dragon Dance boosting his base 100 Speed and buffing his nice base 130 Attack stat, while giving him a great offensive and good defensive typing.

As you said, it requires a spinner. That's always been poor Charizard's problem. :(

Gengar looks like it could easily face a ban, even with the slight nerf to Shadow Tag, it's just too easy to revenge weakened threats with that base 130 Speed and 150 Sp. Attack.

Possibly, Gengar's gonna rip through pretty much anything now.

Zam will see a lot of use if it isn't banned, as it returns to the glory days of RBY where it has nearly unrivaled power and Speed in the OU tier. Trace is really interesting too, it could be a determining factor in many matchups.

Mega Alakazam will definitely split how Alakazam will play. Special sweeping will be left to Mega (I think Mega Zam hits harder than Life Orb Zam?), while standard Alakazam can continue to revenge kill with Focus Sash. It's just a case of working out which variant you're dealing with.

Gyarados is hard to determine, but his new type is welcomed for sure. Not too sure what he'll bring to the table.

Gyarados could work well, just like Mega Mawile - bring it in with Intimidate, then switch to Mega Gyarados for Mold Breaker, effectively giving it the full use of two abilities. Not so keen on the typing, since Gyarados's Dark movepool is as shallow as its Flying one, and it brings in 4 new weaknesses rather than a 4x weakness. The increase in stats could be worth it though, although it might not be worth using over other Megas.

Aerodactyl looks like it could see some real use this generation, though, since Tough Claws boosts a bunch of his moves to great or good levels of power.

And that speed, dayuuuum.

Scizor will be OU, enough said.

Nothing really to add here.

Mega Tyranitar... oh God this thing is going to be ridiculous. Absurdly high defenses in Sand and 164 base Attack... this is terrifying. Low Speed is low, but it's never stopped Tyranitar in the past. Loss of Leftovers could be an issue here, but I imagine it'll play like Choice Band Tyranitar with better defenses and the ability to switch moves.

Or here, but that's because I'm not aware of how Tyranitar plays either way.

Mega Blaziken is OP, but is he really with all the new Megas running around with insane Speed? Still, nothing can theoretically switch into any move he has access to, possibly even 2HKOing Slowbro after Stealth Rock with Shadow Claw off unboosted Attack (no calcs done, don't quote me on this). But the straw that breaks the camel's back is that Speed Boost and Baton Pass are legal on Blaziken now, since MegaKen has Speed Boost regardless of what normal Blaziken has.

Mega Blaziken's split a lot of opinions. Some people are happy that since Mega Evolution naturally increases Blaziken's Speed (before Speed Boost) you can now afford to put more investment into Attack - apparently running Jolly is no longer a necessity, meaning Blaziken doesn't lose out on power from moving from Life Orb to Blazikenite. On the other hand, a lot of people are calling Mega Blaziken a redundant choice since Mega Blaziken won't play any differently and doesn't massively affect what it did before this Gen.

But then again I can't stand Blaziken and I'm not 100% aware of how it plays but I think you'll be the best judge of that.

Mawile has a nice niche, but it's yet to be seen how well it will perform. Remember, you're giving up something like Mega Alakazam to put a stop to Dragons and Fairys, the first of which will take a major hit in basically not having Outrage as a viable option anymore.

I don't think having the highest natural Attack stat in the game pre-boosts is just a niche... Mega Mawile has the potential to be seriously dangerous. Its speed and HP may be pitiful at base 50, but its typing and movepool can mitigate that. 2 immunities and 9 resistances with only 5 types hitting it for neutral and 2 weaknesses makes Steel/Fairy a good defensive typing. 125/95 are passable defenses even with its minimal HP stat, and it can always use Pain Split to seriously dent other Pokémon and follow up with Sucker Punch or Pursuit to pretty much guarantee a KO.

Mega Aggron. Filter. Dat Defense stat. I don't even know, Aggron looks like he could really be dangerous this time around. Loses STAB on Head Smash, as well as recoil-free Head Smash, but... base 230 Defense is kinda nuts.

Not much to say here either.

Medicham has like... the highest unboosted Attack stat in the game after Pure Power or close to it? Base 100 Speed, but it has access to Bullet Punch and Fake Out, so that's something.

Medicham comes second on Attack; Mega Mawile has 105 base and Huge Power, although Medicham has HJK so wins out on damage output, which also leaves it as the riskier choice, since it's not so bulky and any Ghost switch in will ruin it.

Manectric will have a lot more use this time around with huge Volt Switches, and he has tons of really awesome moves like Overheat and stuff that works well with Volt Switch's ability to do damage while escaping. Really excited to try him out.

Again, not much to say.

Banette has Prankster and high Attack, so that'll be interesting to see what it does.

Banette's also got a huge movepool of Status moves to play with. He's already looking to be much better at what Prankster Sableye's been doing.

Absol's Magic Bounce is great, until you factor in horrible defenses. Still, bounces status moves, so that's cool I guess.

65/60/60 compared to Xatu's 65/70/70 and Espeon's 65/60/95 isn't much of a big deal as far as Magic Bounce goes. Absol's definitely got a niche as a purely offensive Magic Bouncer though.

SD Luke will make a comeback this gen for sure.

Nothing to say here~

Abomasnow fights back with some pretty good boosts to Ice and Hail in general this time around, but base 30 Speed is like... wow, you'll win weather wars until you have to actually battle something. Hope it doesn't have a Fire move and doesn't resist Ice Shard.

Abomasnow's another one that's split the board. The boosts to its stats have been well received but Grass/Ice is still really bad defensive typing. That base speed is just gonna make it even more of a sitting duck.

...You'll probably think twice about asking no one in particular next time. :<

Nope, I was kinda hoping for this~

I'm also looking forward to seeing how Mega Kangaskhan plays. Attacking twice means that Power-Up Punch gives +2 attack every time, and it gives Mega Kangaskhan the strongest Fake Out in the game.

And this has been Webby pretending to know more than he actually does~

Huzzah, some discussion!

Mawile: Yeah, you're right, I actually kind of forgot it had Huge Power somehow. It has a worse offensive type than Medicham, but a wonderful defensive type to make use of, so it'll be very interesting to see how much use it actually gets.

Blaziken: I've actually been debating Adamant vs. Jolly, and there is a LOT to take into consideration. Sticky Web, other Megas, and Scarfers all suggest Jolly to be the safest option, but Adamant's power with Protect giving a free Speed Boost is certainly appealing. I feel like Jolly will become standard eventually, just like it did in 5th gen, because you're losing Speed ties to base 100 Scarfers on the second turn if you run Adamant.

Absol: While this is true, Psychic/Flying is a much better defensive typing in gen 5 than Dark is... ever. A quad resistance to Fighting, and being the absolute best switch-in to Ferrothorn made (and probably still makes) Xatu the best Magic Bouncer for pure defensive purposes. Xatu is also deceptively speedy and I always had it make use of Light Clay dual screens. I think for Absol, it'll mainly be a stop to things like priority Thunder Wave, Will-o-Wisp, etc.

Banette: While that's true, Sableye has a bit of a better typing I think. Having a great Attack stat will help Banette further carve it's niche, but it has some pretty shaky defenses.

Abomasnow: It's hard to say how well it will do, but base 30 Speed isn't good in anything but Trick Room.

Kangaskhan: Yes, I meant to talk about this one! Double Fake Out is the very first thing I brought up many pages back when Mega Kanga was first shown, but I had not thought of Power-Up Punch, that is a very good point! Kangaskhan could easily become a frightening threat very quickly in a match, and do it repeatedly with Fake Out if necessary.

Mega Scizor, which doesn't appear on the list. It has an aura of. 'Kick Ass' to it.