New Mega Evolutions

[Lord Raven]

Digimon and Pokemon are two very different takes on the concept of monsters

Pokemon has much more of a collection aspect, Digimon has much more of a "defend the digital world" aspect

[Captain Jigglypuff]

Digimon are ugly! Even 'Ickyicky' looks better than they do if you ask me.

[quack98]

Digimon are ugly! Even 'Ickyicky' looks better than they do if you ask me.

For some, I'd agree. But for instance this:



Looks better than, as you said, Lickilicky, or Garbordor.

[Lord Raven]

Digimon are ugly! Even 'Ickyicky' looks better than they do if you ask me.

When someone makes a point do you literally just back yourself in a corner and throw out random nonsense just to cover up the fact that you hate it when people disagree with you?

[Spriter]

Since when did this become the digimon hate thread? It's a completely different thing.
Besides, the changes for the MEs are either very slight or quite different. From what I have seen, Ampharos only has clouds, Lucario has longer hair things and red bits, Blaziken has a small colour change and fire, Mawile got an extra jaw and a bit if colour. Absol did get a larger change. I doubt Pokemon would try and be similar to Digimon, if Digimon is a so-called ripoff of Pokemon. As LR said, they have different purposes in them.

Tldr, Digimon is different to Pokemon, it isn't as much of a ripoff as one claimed blahblah.

[Webby]

Digimon and Pokemon are two very different takes on the concept of monsters

Pokemon has much more of a collection aspect, Digimon has much more of a "defend the digital world" aspect

Sadly, this is not strictly true - as in Pokémon, where collecting Pokémon allows you to thwart an evil team and challenge the Pokémon League, in Digimon you must aim to collect stronger Digimon in order to defend the digital world and challenge the strongest Digimon in the world, so in both series the former and latter go hand in hand. Besides this, Digimon is becoming more concerned with the collection aspect, in both the series and the video games. The original Digimon video game (Digimon World) involved the collection of Digimon which often stopped you from embarking on the limited storyline, and the newest game (Digimon World Re:Digitize) was apparently intended to be a return to the original format of games, which proved to be more successful than a plot driven game where you had a limited option of monsters (like Digimon World 3).

If anything, the collection aspect of Digimon is a lot more free and unpredictable than in Pokémon; although most Digimon are grouped into families, they can digivolve beyond it or cross over, like Rosemon being a natural digivolution for both Lillymon and Lilamon, who are of separate (yet similar) Digivolution families, and also being a digivolution for Angewomon in Digimon World 3, who is completely unrelated to either of Rosemon's other Ultimate forms.

It'd be more correct to say that Digimon is a "rip-off" of Tamagotchi, since the idea of raising Digimon began as a V-Pet, where you begin with a very young creature which has a determinite lifecycle which involves evolving from one form to another, an idea which eventually evolved into the use of Digivices in the animé to trigger Digivolution, and V-Pets that followed the animé began to be shaped like Digivices. Digimon was just a natural evolution of a simple virtual pet, which became a concept of creatures living in a world parallel to our own.

For me, the main difference between Digimon and Pokémon is that Pokémon, being Pocket Monsters, are simpler in design and made to be contained for convenience, giving a Master-Pet kind of relationship, whereas Digimon, being Digital Monsters made entirely of data, are more complex in their entirety, and act as friends and partners who choose to embark with their chosen partner rather than be chained to them against their will. Digimon are a lot more ornate and complex in design than Pokémon, who often seem to be minimalistic in design. So I think anyone who says "Oh, X looks like a Digimon!!!" is just finding some excuse to not like something because they actually have no good reason to.

[Lord Raven]

Admittedly, I was comparing the anime to the Pokemon video games (and the Pokemon anime while we're at it).  But the general fact appears to me that the purpose of Digimon is moreso to actively fight and defend themselves whereas the purpose of Pokemon is almost sportful in nature.

But yeah the video games do make the two very comparable.  But they still remain a pretty different take on the concept because Digimon, I've felt, was always much darker than Pokemon.  I feel like in order to say that Digimon is a ripoff or vice-versa you have to acknowledge the fact that one's success didn't influence the other to exist or vice-versa; they're very different entities, which is more what I was trying to get at than anything else.

[SirBlaziken]

Alright, let's get off of digimon please. So, your thoughts on mega mewtwo? I think that that just gave mewtwo another reason to be banned. Oh well, at least the ability sucks, I my opinion.

[Turner]

I think Mega Mewtwo is the best thing about the Mega Evolutions.

Why?

1) Mega Mewtwo is featured in the Genesect movie, meaning that we should have a proper canon explanation of 'mega evolutions' rather than being a shoehorned 'digimon' battle feature. This will no doubt be expanded upon in the games.

2) This means Mewtwo will probably play a part in the plot of the games too. Given Mewtwo is DNA altered, and there's evidence to suggest that Mega Evolutions will use some kind of DNA altering technology...I am going to speculate that Team Flare is responsible, meaning that there must be some kind of ties with Team Rocket involved. Maybe the two collaborating or fighting? The leak did say that Mewtwo has TWO new forms...maybe the game features a race between Rocket and Flare (man those names go well together) of who can use their 'mewtwoite' on Mewtwo and evolve it into X or Y Mewtwo...

[Richard and Blaziken]

@SB2K: Insomnia is actually Mewtwo's best ability, currently. It can't be put to Sleep via Dark Void, which makes things annoying for Scarf Darkrai. Current Mewtwo outspeeds Darkrai, and if that remains true with this form, it can switch in on an expected Dark Void, outspeed, and strike back with Aura Sphere if it's not choiced, or setup a Calm Mind if it is. Insomnia is not a bad ability by any means. Much more useful than Pressure or Unnerve.

[Spriter]

@SB2K: Insomnia is actually Mewtwo's best ability, currently. It can't be put to Sleep via Dark Void, which makes things annoying for Scarf Darkrai. Current Mewtwo outspeeds Darkrai, and if that remains true with this form, it can switch in on an expected Dark Void, outspeed, and strike back with Aura Sphere if it's not choiced, or setup a Calm Mind if it is. Insomnia is not a bad ability by any means. Much more useful than Pressure or Unnerve.

I'm gonna enjoy that a lot. StallTwo might be a bit more viable, as it's bulk is by no means bad, so a Life Orb unboosted Dark Pulse might not KO...

I think I'm more interested in how the abilities they get will affect them.

[Specstile]

2) This means Mewtwo will probably play a part in the plot of the games too. Given Mewtwo is DNA altered, and there's evidence to suggest that Mega Evolutions will use some kind of DNA altering technology...I am going to speculate that Team Flare is responsible, meaning that there must be some kind of ties with Team Rocket involved. Maybe the two collaborating or fighting? The leak did say that Mewtwo has TWO new forms...maybe the game features a race between Rocket and Flare (man those names go well together) of who can use their 'mewtwoite' on Mewtwo and evolve it into X or Y Mewtwo...

Would be interesting to see if you got a different mega stone depending on which game you get

[SirBlaziken]

2) This means Mewtwo will probably play a part in the plot of the games too. Given Mewtwo is DNA altered, and there's evidence to suggest that Mega Evolutions will use some kind of DNA altering technology...I am going to speculate that Team Flare is responsible, meaning that there must be some kind of ties with Team Rocket involved. Maybe the two collaborating or fighting? The leak did say that Mewtwo has TWO new forms...maybe the game features a race between Rocket and Flare (man those names go well together) of who can use their 'mewtwoite' on Mewtwo and evolve it into X or Y Mewtwo...

I would very much like that, and it would make the plot very interesting.

[Captain Jigglypuff]

Insomnia DOES work better since Unnerve is usually useful in online batteles since not many in-game trainers have Pokemon hold berries aside from Rangers and Gym Leaders. But you can only battle them once normally. Pressure is probably best for Walls like Blissey to make them less of a threat with no PP left for powerful attacks.

[Dudugs]

I hope there's a mega Swampert, cause Blaziken and Torchic are both pretty overated.