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General Pokémon Discussion / Re: Terrible Pokemon ideas
« on: June 30, 2013, 03:34 »
...Why has no one mentioned Superdesukawaiieon yet?

Those bow's and ribbions aren't removable folks, they're large growths of asymmetrical flesh.

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1. Misty was the first classic Kanto character to leave the show. Ash, Brock and Team Rocket all lasted in the anime for 13+ years (and Brock only just recently left)

Brock left before Misty and was replaced with Tracey, and then brought back.

2. As we can see now, Misty's departure at the end of Johto was indeed quite permanent. Misty stayed gone permanently for the entire duration of the series and was never allowed back into the main cast in any of the following arcs.

So are all of the other of the female leads. Misty got 3 arcs, Kanto, the Orange Islands, and Johto. May got Hoenn and the Battle Frontier, Dawn got Sinnoh, and Iris so far has only gotten Unova. Additionally, Misty got mentioned in Hoenn, and even got a few episodes to allow Togepi to evolve. She also got some episodes in Chronicles. By comparison, Misty lasted the longest of the female counterparts of Ash.

3. Misty's cameos/guest appearances have stopped entirely. The last time Misty had a real appearance in the show was way back in 2005 when Ash came home from the Hoenn league. That was 7 years ago! She appeared in flashbacks in the recent Best Wishes series, but flashbacks don't really count. The writers don't even allow Misty to come back for 2-3 episodes anymore like she did during Hoenn, now she's completely ignored.

So has May's, she doesn't even get recalled in flashbacks. The anime seems to follow the trick of 'Bring back the most previous female counterpart to meet the new one' rather than 'Let all female counterparts get a few cameo episodes each new arc'.

4. All the biggest water-related plotlines in the anime happened AFTER she left. Hoenn had Team Aqua which was a villain team all about water. Movie 9 was a blatantly water-themed Pokemon movie with a legendary who was the "prince of the sea." Wallace appears in the DP series as a, "Water Pokemon Master coordinator" and Misty doesn't get to meet him. They gave May blatant water-themed plotlines instead of using Misty for them.

A large majority of the pokemon in the world are water types, dragging Misty back into the plot every time there's a theme dealing with Water reduces the character development of the new female lead.

5. Dawn got a Togekiss. Back at the start of the anime, Togepi was exclusively associated with Misty and no other character ever had a Togepi in fillers in the series. Then instead of Misty reuniting with her Togetic, the writers decide to debut Togekiss with Dawn instead.

May recieved a bulbasaur and squirtle, and Dawn also received a cyndaquil, which were exclusively owned by Ash, and Dawn was the first main character in the anime to get an electric type besides Ash. Not really seeing the issue with Togekiss, it was a Sinnoh-evolution, just like Mamoswine. I personally think it was just to be able to give her and display more region centric pokemon.

6. With the current 5th gen anime drawing to a close, this is the second generation in a row where Misty did not get to return. The writers didn't have her appear in a single episode over the entire span of the DP arc, and it looks like she won't appear in the Best Wishes series either.

Addressed earlier, the formula has mostly been having the last main female lead making a cameo. And pokemon is all about following formulas... We're still getting 8 gym badges and challenging the pokemon league after all.

7. She was probably the worst treated of all the female leads in the series. She barely got much screentime and was always kept on the sidelines while Ash did everything. In many ways May, Dawn and Iris all got bigger roles in their respective sagas than she got, making it seem like Misty wasn't very important.

Misty's character was not as developed as the additional female leads, but she did have some backstory here and there. However, at the time, Pokemon was geared more towards the male demographic, it was only at Crystal were you able to select a female character, and as I recall, the character' Crystal' didn't appear in the anime until much later, in Hoenn/Chronicles. It was only around Hoenn did Pokemon start focusing on the more 'feminine' aspect of Pokemon, activities outside of battling, such as contests, and thus began developing the female characters to be a counter-part to Ash.

8. Misty did not get an ending theme in the Japanese version of the anime, while other female leads did.

Same as above

9. The writers dropped Misty the first opportunity they got, which leads me to believe they might have dropped her at the end of Orange Islands if a female lead from the games existed with G/S instead of Crystal.

Brock was dropped first in the Orange Islands for a character who drew Pokemon, which are essentially drawings. I believe (havn't checked) a general dislike of Tracey made the show bring back Brock, and Misty stayed with us through Johto.

..So, yeah. They didn't drop Misty first opportunity, they dropped Brock first opportunity.

10. She's the only female lead with no ongoing rivals, unlike May/Dawn/Iris.

Same as 8, which is the same as 7.

Thoughts on this? It almost felt like they treated her as a placeholder character until they had others to replace her with. Even though both May and Dawn left the show too (and Iris will leave shortly), they all just feel like the writers cared about the way they handled them. Any thoughts?

I think you're correct that Misty didn't get as much character development as the newer leads, but the show really wasn't about her. It was about Ash and his journey, and Misty and Brock were really there to act as guides and support, not for their own character development.

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Role Play / [Disc] D20 Roleplay
« on: May 03, 2013, 06:05 »
After reading a bunch of R.A. Salvatore's books, I went and learned how to play Dungeons & Dragons (3.5 edition), which is essentially a giant role playing game, but uses dice to help determine the outcome in situations.

I was just curious if anyone else had ever done a role playing game with dice before, and what their thoughts were when comparing it to non-dice role playing like we typically see on pkmn.net. I have found I prefer role playing with dice, because it solves that problem of applying damage or chance situations.

So yeah.. Discuss away 8D

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Hm? The series isn't over, our fun as ghosts is, now we begin the exciting adventure of finding a new place to sleep!

...I won't be updating any quicker than usual though  :tongue2:

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Gen 1: Squirtle
Gen 2: Totodile
Gen 3: Mudkip
Gen 4: Turtwig
Gen 5: Tepig
Gen 6: Haven't picked

I tend to prefer the water starters, with Mudkip being the overall favorite of course.

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General Pokémon Discussion / Re: Buizel's spinning tail
« on: April 19, 2013, 21:48 »


Buizel: All that and a can of Magikarp.

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Well Mewtwo is genderless, so it can have whatever voice it wants... XD

[spoiler]Mew will also make a guest appearance with the voice of Dan Green.[/notreally]

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Debate / Re: #YOLO
« on: April 16, 2013, 07:41 »
Up until I read this topic, I just thought it was a fancy way of asking for lowfat yogurt.

..Man, I'm behind with the times.

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X and Y/OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire / Re: Favourite Starter?
« on: April 05, 2013, 23:52 »
Mudkip! ..Oh, wait..

Eh, Fennkin for now, but I'm also not overly fond of any of them at the moment.

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Random Randomness / Re: Question for American members
« on: April 05, 2013, 23:43 »
It's as big a deal as your social circle makes it. Eh? Me? I didn't go to prom, so it wasn't a big deal to me  ^.^

Prom is basically one of those 'memory-making' events they have you do in school, the same as Homecoming or School Basketball games. But like anything in life, it only holds value if you assign value to it. I put more value on going to regular school dances as a single with less strict dress code and dancing the night away than on going to an extravagant (expensive) evening with formalized dress code and required date.

Before anyone freaks out that I didn't go to prom, let it be known that I also had a lot of social events with the Marching Band, which reduced the pressure to go to prom.

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Random Randomness / Re: Happy Birthday, Utack (and Swampy?)
« on: April 05, 2013, 06:27 »
Thanks guys, we had a very fun birthday, filled with tromping around Swamps and mud wrestling 8D

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Random Randomness / Happy Birthday Richard & Blaziken!
« on: April 03, 2013, 07:03 »
Ha! This year, I'm the first one to make this topic, in your face everyone else!  ;D

Richard & his Blaziken are very fantastic fellows! One of them writes the Pokemon of the Week Articles, while the other regularly spends time owning people in Ubers matches... I'll let you figure out which one is which!

Yup, he's turned 22, and a really fantastic writer, battler, imagination-er and friend! Happy Birthday buddy, may your year be filled with awesome victories, and awesome 6th generation Pokemon that aren't Fire/Fighting!

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Customizable player character is generally on the top of most people's lists.

Personally, I'd like my starter to evolve into something decent this time around, preferably not Fire/Fighting. Not holding my breath though...

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General Pokémon Discussion / Re: Least Favorite Pokemon
« on: March 24, 2013, 05:31 »
I'm not overly fond of Licatung, Lickilicky, or the Eggexcute line

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X and Y/OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire / New Evolutions Speculation
« on: February 13, 2013, 23:06 »
If we can evolve Eevee again, then the whole Pokemon world is open to new evolutions! So, what sort of evolutions do you think are coming, funny or otherwise?

Me? I'm thinking...

Fat-Linoone
Wolf-Man Mightyena
Giant-crested Swellow

Your thoughts?

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