Topic: PKMN.net's Tier Lists

[Laprabi]

Porygon2 may be good, but it isn't OU. It can't really take a Close Combat.

Dragonite should stay in OU. Otherwise it would dominate the BL Tier. Basically, what Crystal said.

EDIT: I meant Close Combat. I think. The point was that I was disagreeing with the previous poster.

[TCoZ]

BL isn't a competitive tier as such. It's just for pokémon that are banned from UU.

Unless PKMN.net wants to go against the norm.

[Afro-Disiak]

Porygon2 may be good, but it isn't OU. It can't really take a physical hit.

Dragonite should stay in OU. Otherwise it would dominate the BL Tier. Basically, what Crystal said.

...have you even used Porygon2 before? It can take plenty of abuse, cripple with status and then Recover off damage. It's ability makes it an almost perfect counter for DDmence/gyarados and also let's it come in on pokemon with abilities like Levitate, Volt Absorb, Flash Fire, Water Absorb, Arena Trap, Magnet Pull.....

As TCoZ said, there isn't really a BL tier, just limbo between UU and OU.

[Agatha]

Porygon2 can definitely take a physical hit. It is comparable to Zapdos.

It is not OU because A. It doesn't overcentralise UU, and B. It's not used that much.

[Laprabi]

Damn. I meant it can't really take a Close Combat. D:

[Afro-Disiak]

Why on earth would you let the magical duck of awesomeness take a Close Combat >>

[Laprabi]

...A lapse in prediction, maybe?

[Lucariojr]

Mmmm, I think Wynaut should be UU or NU. Sure it has Shadow Tag, but that's not really good enough for Uber. It's VERY underpowered, and having 95 base HP and 48 base defenses says something about it's power as a CounterCoater. Besides, do you really want to ban something that lulzy?

[Agatha]

Damn. I meant it can't really take a Close Combat. D:

Celebi cannot take a Scizor U-Turn or Tyranitar Crunch. But it's still one of the most resilient defensive Pokemon in OU.

[Zy]

But even so, Porygon2 shouldn't be an OU. The sheer amount of other things which can take it down when it can simply counter Gyarados, Heatran and Salamence is just un-canny. It may be good at annihilating said threats, which are incredibly common, but otherwise, it falls to the likes of Scizor, Heracross and others.

Mmmm, I think Wynaut should be UU or NU. Sure it has Shadow Tag, but that's not really good enough for Uber. It's VERY underpowered, and having 95 base HP and 48 base defenses says something about it's power as a CounterCoater. Besides, do you really want to ban something that lulzy?

Yes. It's base Stats are unimportant. Not everything will OHKO it, and you have a Focus Sash. Either way, the fact remains that Shadow Tag + Encore + Mirror Coat/Counter is more than enough to make it horribly broken. it's evident you've never been up against a Wobbuffet, and just because Wynaut is less powerful doesn't mean it can't do the same job.

[Scwib]

I can't find Cresselia anywhere in the tier lists on the website.

??

[Lord Raven]

Argue with Dan about Porygon2.  I just know that logically, Wynaut is far from Uber.

Yes. It's base Stats are unimportant. Not everything will OHKO it, and you have a Focus Sash. Either way, the fact remains that Shadow Tag + Encore + Mirror Coat/Counter is more than enough to make it horribly broken. it's evident you've never been up against a Wobbuffet, and just because Wynaut is less powerful doesn't mean it can't do the same job.

Yes it does.  Where Wobbuffet can take out 2-3 Pokemon, Wynaut can at best only take out one if even that with its 95 HP base and 48 in each defense.

[Agatha]

But even so, Porygon2 shouldn't be an OU. The sheer amount of other things which can take it down when it can simply counter Gyarados, Heatran and Salamence is just un-canny. It may be good at annihilating said threats, which are incredibly common, but otherwise, it falls to the likes of Scizor, Heracross and others.
Yes. It's base Stats are unimportant. Not everything will OHKO it, and you have a Focus Sash. Either way, the fact remains that Shadow Tag + Encore + Mirror Coat/Counter is more than enough to make it horribly broken. it's evident you've never been up against a Wobbuffet, and just because Wynaut is less powerful doesn't mean it can't do the same job.

What do you mean 'the sheer amount of other things'? Porygon2 is tough for nearly anything without boosted, high powered STAB or super effective (IE Fighting) moves to take down.

[Raphetty]

Is Latias holding Soul Dew allowed in OU? If not, better make that clear.

[Laprabi]

Soul Dew is banned outside of Ubers, as far as I know.