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Started by Webby2, March 20, 2010, 14:42

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RyoMashii

OK. I have another question. Dose anybody know the pomeg glitch/

tomkang

Is it worth EV training a Jolly Gyarados with only 6 Attk IV and 8 Spd IV?
Thanks to Psychic Fire for this! :)

RyoMashii

Quote from: tomkang on March 30, 2010, 11:40
Is it worth EV training a Jolly Gyarados with only 6 Attk IV and 8 Spd IV?

Well, I believe it would be very powerful in-game, however, many people IV breed for pokemon like Gyarados. So online you might see people with IVs up to 31 in speed and attack, so I am not very sure. Some people don't IV breed though. I got my LoR Gyarados, and I was lucky to get one with 30 in attack and 29 in speed.

tomkang

ugh i hate IV breeding. I miss my 31 IV all stats gyarados from diamond :(
Thanks to Psychic Fire for this! :)

RyoMashii

I have a question: Is dragonite better as a Tank or a sweeper. I have a Lonely Dratini that could make it a SpD Tank, or my Jolly one that could make for a good physical sweeper. Here are my desired sets for each.

Dragonite@ Life Orb/Lefties/Lum Berry
{Jolly} 252 Atk 252 Spd 252 Def

Steel Wing
Outrage/Dragon Rush
Roost
Thunder Wave

Dragonite is a bulky Pokemon, so it's speed stat, even with EV training isn't the best. SO , if I try to wave a fast looking opponent, I can have a better chance of winning with cut spped and 50% chance of paralysis. Steel wing can cover pesky ice types like Regice and Dewgong with high defense . Outrage is a pretty strong dragon move that can be covered with a lum berry after confusion. Dragon rush has no after effects, but the lower accuracy is a problem.

                                                                              -OR-

Dragonite@ Life Orb/Lum Berry
{Lonely} 252 Atk 252 Spd 6 HP/Spd

Dragon Claw
Fire Punch
Rest/Protect
???

Dragon Claw applies decent STAB. Fire Punch help cover pesky ice types and Scizor, which some sets might have trouble handling. Rest and Lum berry work nicely in irritation of my opponenets so the loss concentration for a bit, alowing me to devise strategies if they mess up. Protect can help do the same thing. So, which set works better for Dragonite, and, any imrovments on said set?

Laprabi

Quote from: RyoMashii on March 30, 2010, 21:06252 Atk 252 Spd 252 Def

You've put 252 EVs in 3 stats. You mean 6 EVs in Defence, right?
hahahahahahaha

RyoMashii

Quote from: Laprabi™ on March 30, 2010, 22:25
You've put 252 EVs in 3 stats. You mean 6 EVs in Defense, right?

Yeah I did. I meant 6 in Defense.

Enigma

Suppose Kyogre and Groudon are sent out against one another. Which weather ability will prevail?

Furthermore, suppose Kygore and Groudon are sent out on a 2v2 battle on the SAME TEAM. Which weather would stick around?

Thanks. =)

Laprabi

^I think the slower one's weather would prevail, because it's the speed that determines the order in which the weather appears.
hahahahahahaha

Enigma

Hm...that's a pretty interesting though.

What if Choice Scarf was attached to Groudon? Would it then mean that Rain was around because Kyogre would be technically 'slower?'

Afro-Disiak

With scarf attached, Kyogre would be slower so the rain would prevail. It's been that way since RSE, it's not a new thing. Sassy Abomasnow beats them both though, and can bring Hail ;P

Enigma

Quote from: Dan Dan on April 15, 2010, 12:55
With scarf attached, Kyogre would be slower so the rain would prevail. It's been that way since RSE, it's not a new thing. Sassy Abomasnow beats them both though, and can bring Hail ;P

No, I'm sure it's not new, I've just never really dabbled in 2v2 or Ubers, and now that both are only a month away...I need to expand my knowledge! =P

...what about Brave Hippo? =P

Afro-Disiak

#57
Again, it's slower but it can't do much to Kyogre, Groudon or Abomasnow.

Agatha

Quote from: RyoMashii on March 30, 2010, 21:06
I have a question: Is dragonite better as a Tank or a sweeper. I have a Lonely Dratini that could make it a SpD Tank, or my Jolly one that could make for a good physical sweeper. Here are my desired sets for each.

Dragonite@ Life Orb/Lefties/Lum Berry
{Jolly} 252 Atk 252 Spd 252 Def

Steel Wing
Outrage/Dragon Rush
Roost
Thunder Wave

Dragonite is a bulky Pokemon, so it's speed stat, even with EV training isn't the best. SO , if I try to wave a fast looking opponent, I can have a better chance of winning with cut spped and 50% chance of paralysis. Steel wing can cover pesky ice types like Regice and Dewgong with high defense . Outrage is a pretty strong dragon move that can be covered with a lum berry after confusion. Dragon rush has no after effects, but the lower accuracy is a problem.

In any situation where you'd use Jolly Dragonite, use Salamence. Seriously. Physically offensive Dragonite should always run an attack boosting nature (Adamant, or Lonely/Naughty if you use Fire Blast). A Jolly Dragonite has 369 Attack and 284 Speed, an Adamant Salamence has 405 Attack and 299 Speed. There's really nothing important in OU that you outrun by having a +spe nature on a base 80 Pokemon, other than +spe base 70's, which don't really exist outside of Scarf Breloom and Metagross who have a speed boost anyway. Never use Jolly Dragonite is a general rule of thumb. The only reasons to use Dragonite over Mence are for its defensive abilities or wall breaking, so abuse them with a bulky Dragon Dance set, or a Mixed set with Superpower.
 
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2.If I EV train a nincada, would both pokemon get the Evs when he evolves into them?
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