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Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« on: October 06, 2013, 20:47 »
I'm doing a Tag Team of Blissey and Gengar, and I'm rather new to the competetive battling scene...
The stuff in red text is what I'm not sure about, though any other input will be helpful. I will not change things in Blue Text for obvious strategic reasons. (In this case... Coverage of every type)

Blissey
EV Def/HP
Leftovers/King's Rock
Natural Cure/Serene Grace
Bold/Relaxed

*Softboiled
*Sing
*Rock Slide
*Ice Beam


Gengar
EV Spe/SpA
Choice Scarf/Big Root
Levitate
Timid
*Focus Blast
*Dream Eater
*Shadowball/Trick Room
*Thunderbolt
« Last Edit: October 06, 2013, 21:09 by Steel Winters »

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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2013, 23:27 »
I'm not quite sure what blissey is doing, if I'm honest.

It's too slow to flinch hax, which seems to be the aim.
It can't wall, because walls don't work in doubles.
Rock Slide isn't great coming off of 10 base attack

Jirachi seems to do the job you want, but presuming you couldn't get him, Togekiss.

A small paragraph about what your strategy would be useful, as I can't quite tell what it's supposed to be doing?

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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2013, 00:13 »
Gengar needs substitute, and dream eater is useless with out sleep, besides, they switch out anyways. Always use shadow ball. Do not use choice scarf on it, use a Life orb or leftovers.

Blissey should never run any attacking move besides seismic toss. Toxic or thunder wave. Protect or aromatherapy. And Wish. Leftovers, natural care. and he ev spread is: 4hp 252def 252SpD

Also, here's the site that host pokemon showdown, it has the sets and pokemon in each tiers. Good luck:
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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2013, 00:17 »
Blissey can work well with any special move, actually, such as Ice beam and Flamethrower, not just Seismic Toss (which, IMO, is a very poor choice), it's just it's near useless in doubles, where walls don't work

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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2013, 00:19 »
Sorry I didn't read this earlier... I was toying around with the team for a while... And now I have something that works-ish.

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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2013, 00:37 »
Blissey can work well with any special move, actually, such as Ice beam and Flamethrower, not just Seismic Toss (which, IMO, is a very poor choice)

Well, not many people use Blissey for its SpA. They use it as a cleric, well in singles, which IMO, is better and easier.
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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2013, 00:42 »
But flamethrower and ice beam are both better for this role; they have a chance of inflicting status, and flamethrower takes out one of the most common Thunder wave users; Ferrothorn.

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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2013, 00:43 »
Well, you usually use unorthodox sets. Plus ST is constant, reliable damage
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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2013, 00:45 »
You said yourself; Blissey is a cleric. Not intended to be doing damage, and as Seismic toss has very little damage output, Flamethrower is a very good choice for its SE coverage (Ferrothorn, Scizor, Forretress, Venusaur)

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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2013, 00:50 »
ST does 100 a hit, about 1/3 the health of most pokemon.
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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2013, 00:52 »
But blissey isn't for doing damage! Ferrothorn, a hazard setter and status spreader is murdered by flamethrower, and would simply leech seed if you run seismic toss.

Anyway, blissey isn't great in doubles full stop, it doesn't have the offense needed

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Re: Quick Questions about my Double Battle team...
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2013, 08:25 »
I agree with Robin, I followed what Blaziken said... I ran into a Ghost type that sweeped my entire party... I couldn't do anything against it when it narrowed it down to Blissey... By the way... I just pulled off an "Uber-Blissey" Sweep on a Single Battle.
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/ou-55169617