Who Else Agrees!! New Evolutions, New Types, and Better Moves, and New Wii u pok

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pokemonruben10

My dream is to work in the Pokemon company to make some Much needed changes because the people om charge of everything Pokemon really disappointed me gen 6. For example Pokemon fans: the people running ( Pokémon) didn't even bother to fill the whole gen 6 pokedex ..only like 60 new Pokémon. Im guessing the people running (Pokemon) probably think they the new mega evolutions count as the other 100 Pokemon remaining.. Cause clearly Im missing something. Even worse, Mega Evolutions were introduced gen 6 and none of the Pokemon in its generation even got  an evolution.
So yeah Me and brothers love Pokémon , mostly me though but my brother loves Pokemon too, also my other brother, ..Anyways I love Pokemon but me and my brothers always talk about some new Pokemon changes should be changed or added. Like I Mentioned earlier, I think the whole temporary mega evolution is just not good and pointless to me.
-Me and my brothers are always talking about how some Pokemon really need a New Evolution like the famously forgotten dunsparce. I don't use dunsparce but it would be cool if he evolved right. Many Pokemon really need an evolution and I want to hear many other peoples dream evolutions of which Pokémon should evolve or Really need to Evolve. I personally want Seviper to evolve,Not Mega Evolve.
-I Don't like How Pokémon only released one New Type, FAIRY.  I Honestly don't like this new type mainly because i actually preferred it to be called LIGHT type instead. Also, I wished they could've thought of more types rather than 1. And I think moonblast should have been a dark type move instead of fairy. I wanna know know what fanmade types would have been cool if they were real and should be added.
- Pokemon Moves. Even this topic isn't safe from me. I want cool moves but I Don't want cheater moves either.
I love poison types and I think the (pokemon people) should really give poison type pokemonn some cool Pokemon moves and a cool poison type legendary' for god sakes. Some Pokemon cards have pretty cool sounding attacks like, I heard Empoleon have a move called Ice Blade and I just like the ring to it. Why not, there's leaf blade already. I'm not asking for a poison type move that takes like 500 special attack. Even some Pokemon types need some better moves like bug and ghost. Better moves must be made and they might as well sound cool. What do you guys think?
-I have many theories to why A Wii u Pokemon game hasn't came out. #1) The Pokemon people are just too genuinely lazy to create such a masterpiece. They haven't made Pokemon home console game since 2007, so times have changed and people expect a lot. And it must be a very daunting task like I said to create a very detailed game. #2 the Pokemon people just want it on DS because it sell better or its just somehow meant to be portable so that other Pokemon owners carry theirs DS's and trade and done. #3 I takes several several years , maybe they haven't begone the secret development or they want to but they have few ideas or its become an even bigger problem than they believed. #4 I just don't know #5 maybe they'll will make a Pokémon game but for the console after Wii u.#6 they just don't want to #7 Nintendo Creator fears this game because its just so good people will die of its sheer awesomeness.
I talk about anything Pokemon 24/7 and I want to know every bodies opinions!! I want to know your Pokemon teams and I really wanna know what you guys think
My name is Ruben and hope you guys voice your opinions

Hahex and Oshawott

To an extent I agree, there's a lack of new proper evolotuions for older pokemon, like dunsparce. Mega-Evolutions for stuff like Mawile and Audino are nice, but I can't help but feel like a next stage would flesh them out a little more. But at the same time, fourth gen had loads of evolutions for older pokemon and a few weren't totally well received. Magmortar and Electivire aren't the most popular pokemon, for example.

At the same time, there's now something like 718 pokemon running around. This is coming right after 5th gen which had a pretty damn high amount of pokemon already. I'm not personally upset that Nintendo are slowing down with new pokemon. Since Mega-Evolution is a new mechanic, it also makes sense that they're focusing on that rather than new pokemon.

I'm also totally fine with just the one new type. Even though it sounds weird to say now, type matchups actually take a while to learn and digest for new players. Changing and adding types every gen would make it much harder to keep up with for all players. Balancing the types so that each are roughly equally strong is also more difficult as more and more types get added. Similar argument for new moves as well. Cross Poison, Toxic, Sludge Wave; poison type moves aren't in an abysmal state at the moment. But a legendary poison type would be cool.

As for why there isn't a Pokemon WiiU game... well I'd be suprised if there wasn't one in the works as we speak right now. I don't know if it'll be a "main series" game like X/Y, but even if it's something like Pokemon XD or colleseum then I'll be over the moon.

pokemonruben10

Believe me, I genuinely love Pokemon but It actually hurts me when The Pokémon designer's fudge up some things that were already fine in Pokémon.  I dislike mega evolutions because some look terrible & some look over exaggerated. I don't think all mega evolutions are terrible like LUCARIO ~ but I don't think this new game "mechanic" was brilliant or even necessary. I know , I know .. I sound like gen 6 totally sicks but oh' there's nothing wrong with gen 5. No no no, gen 5 was also disappointing, Reshiram and Zekrom are fudging cool don't get me wrong, they took the cake in their roles as the mascots in bw. But I just don't like the other legendaries like the 3 flying genies or the other 3 musketeers as legendaries. I don't wanna sound like a negative Nancy but I just didn't like their designs overall. I like the other bw legendaries because the others were cool or just not as terrible looking. Compare Raikou, entei, suicune with the 3 genies and 3 musketeer's and you'll understand why I'm bugged .  Maractus, Basculin, Stunfisk and some other gen 5 Pokemon looked less than stellar in my opinion and just horrible. I just recently found out that slowbro has a mega evolution and i wasn't too thrilled about that. Audino looks fine but Why not just give it an evolution? Have you seen Kangashkans's mega? He looks so drastically different, The baby is out of its pouch, no way, so different right. Why does Charizard only get two megas? Why Does Gardevoir look like a bride? I can go on all day about the things wrong with megas but Ill stop and I hope you can understand where I'm coming from. I just feel like the Pokemon designer and his coworkers are just fiddling with their pencils and drawing anything and calling it a Pokemon. Hawlucha looks weird but somehow it made the cut rather than have a few tweaks before release. I feel like the Pokemon designers just sometimes draw anything but who cares, people will buy it anyways. The designers really need to step it up gen 7 because gen 6 was frankly a disappointment.

the bread dragon

''why does charizard only get two megas?''
the real question is, why does it get 2 and nothing else

Spriter

I disagree. I think what they are doing is pretty solid.

I must say, they are trying to make things like shiny hunting much more accessible, which is bringing in more shiny hunters to Pokémon. I think that's pretty good myself.

But I think the sheer amount of Pokémon around nowadays means it is fairgame for them to slow down with how many they are churning out per generation. A new player wouldn't take kindly to having to learn about over 700 Pokémon that exist. It would take a while to digest. Even now, we all forget about that one Pokémon.

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pokemonruben10

@caught bread handed- It was stupid to give charizard 2 megas for no reason but not the other starters.Just like mewtwo but not mew, that's just stupid and I don't care about charizard

@Spriter- No, I disagree with you. Im not a shiny hunter so I don't really care for it but I do know about it. Yes, we all do forgot some Pokemon now and then. But its not the end of the world if we did, and that's why our "common sense" helps us differentiate who's who or making educated guesses. You won't learn everybody Or everything right away, and I think the same goes when playing yugioh like xyz, synchros, and so on. I personally don't have any life or death situations if I forgot my opponents Pokemon types.

@sappy- and no, I'm not 12 you weirdo and that's probably just your hormones raging. Talk to your parents about that

Sappy

Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 14, 2014, 06:52
@sappy- and no, I'm not 12 you weirdo and that's probably just your hormones raging. Talk to your parents about that

He's totally 12.

Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 12, 2014, 08:16
My dream is to work in the Pokemon company to make some Much needed changes because the people om charge of everything Pokemon really disappointed me gen 6.

Really those graphics disappointed you? Y'know the much desired 3D graphics sucked?

That trainer customization was terrible too?

QuoteFor example Pokemon fans: the people running ( Pokémon) didn't even bother to fill the whole gen 6 pokedex ..only like 60 new Pokémon. Im guessing the people running (Pokemon) probably think they the new mega evolutions count as the other 100 Pokemon remaining.. Cause clearly Im missing something. Even worse, Mega Evolutions were introduced gen 6 and none of the Pokemon in its generation even got  an evolution.

Mega Diancie just happened. Plus Game Freak wanted you to experience the place. Why'd you need over 100 Pokemon anyway? I mean, they tried that and people like you moaned about 5th Gen. Srsly make your mind.

QuoteSo yeah Me and brothers love Pokémon , mostly me though but my brother loves Pokemon too, also my other brother, ..Anyways I love Pokemon but me and my brothers always talk about some new Pokemon changes should be changed or added. Like I Mentioned earlier, I think the whole temporary mega evolution is just not good and pointless to me.

GUYS, THIS GUYS BROTHER KNOWS EVERYTHING. Also Mega-Evolutions changed the metagame completely. It was hardly a pointless change.

Quote-Me and my brothers are always talking about how some Pokemon really need a New Evolution like the famously forgotten dunsparce. I don't use dunsparce but it would be cool if he evolved right. Many Pokemon really need an evolution and I want to hear many other peoples dream evolutions of which Pokémon should evolve or Really need to Evolve. I personally want Seviper to evolve,Not Mega Evolve.

Probably the only valid thing.


Quote-I Don't like How Pokémon only released one New Type, FAIRY.  I Honestly don't like this new type mainly because i actually preferred it to be called LIGHT type instead. Also, I wished they could've thought of more types rather than 1. And I think moonblast should have been a dark type move instead of fairy. I wanna know know what fanmade types would have been cool if they were real and should be added.

Seriously, they're running out of things to make types upon. Also hating something because of it's name is plain stupid unless the name is offensive.

Quote- Pokemon Moves. Even this topic isn't safe from me. I want cool moves but I Don't want cheater moves either.
I love poison types and I think the (pokemon people) should really give poison type pokemonn some cool Pokemon moves and a cool poison type legendary' for god sakes.

"pokemon people"

lol.

Game Freak design Pokemon because the designs are good, not because there is a desire for something. It is they Game Freak have designed some gems. Seriously Design is more important than type.

QuoteSome Pokemon cards have pretty cool sounding attacks like, I heard Empoleon have a move called Ice Blade and I just like the ring to it. Why not, there's leaf blade already. I'm not asking for a poison type move that takes like 500 special attack. Even some Pokemon types need some better moves like bug and ghost. Better moves must be made and they might as well sound cool. What do you guys think?

TCG is completely unrelated to the games. It's like saying why was Ash's Pikachu born with the most varying Sp Atk stat ever. New moves have been added... Parting Shot, Moonblast and Flying Press include some.

Quote-I have many theories to why A Wii u Pokemon game hasn't came out. #1) The Pokemon people are just too genuinely lazy to create such a masterpiece. They haven't made Pokemon home console game since 2007, so times have changed and people expect a lot. And it must be a very daunting task like I said to create a very detailed game. #2 the Pokemon people just want it on DS because it sell better or its just somehow meant to be portable so that other Pokemon owners carry theirs DS's and trade and done. #3 I takes several several years , maybe they haven't begone the secret development or they want to but they have few ideas or its become an even bigger problem than they believed. #4 I just don't know #5 maybe they'll will make a Pokémon game but for the console after Wii u.#6 they just don't want to #7 Nintendo Creator fears this game because its just so good people will die of its sheer awesomeness.

There's already a Pokemon Wii U Game - Rumble U. If you're expecting a Colloseum/XD kinda game yeah that would be cool if they handled the catching mechanism better.

Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 13, 2014, 08:25
Believe me, I genuinely love Pokemon but It actually hurts me when The Pokémon designer's fudge up some things that were already fine in Pokémon.  I dislike mega evolutions because some look terrible & some look over exaggerated. I don't think all mega evolutions are terrible like LUCARIO ~ but I don't think this new game "mechanic" was brilliant or even necessary. I know , I know .. I sound like gen 6 totally sicks but oh' there's nothing wrong with gen 5.

Lucario was an awful Mega. (Yeah, it's good competitively, but it just looks awful)

Fans like you need to appreciate what Game Freak does. They build a whole new game on a new piece of hardware and you assume the game's a failure on a lack of Pokemon (Cause 700+ isn't a big enough number already..) and an awesome battle mechanic. Stop moaning for just one second and appreciate the marvel that is X and Y. Look at the graphics. They look much better than you. Trainer customization has been the most wanted thing since everyone realised Charizard was bad up until Mega Evolutions. The only thing dire about X and Y is the inability to take off your hat, postgame and the story.

QuoteNo no no, gen 5 was also disappointing, Reshiram and Zekrom are fudging cool don't get me wrong, they took the cake in their roles as the mascots in bw. But I just don't like the other legendaries like the 3 flying genies or the other 3 musketeers as legendaries. I don't wanna sound like a negative Nancy but I just didn't like their designs overall.

Sorry my lordship they didn't meet your standards. I'll talk to Game Freak, I'm sure they'll understand a 12 year old isn't happy and need to fix them.

QuoteI like the other bw legendaries because the others were cool or just not as terrible looking. Compare Raikou, entei, suicune with the 3 genies and 3 musketeer's and you'll understand why I'm bugged .  Maractus, Basculin, Stunfisk and some other gen 5 Pokemon looked less than stellar in my opinion and just horrible.

bro, Maractus is perfect. Don't you dare mess with Maractus.
QuoteI just recently found out that slowbro has a mega evolution and i wasn't too thrilled about that.

PSST IT'S A BEYBLADE

QuoteAudino looks fine but Why not just give it an evolution? Have you seen Kangashkans's mega? He looks so drastically different, The baby is out of its pouch, no way, so different right. Why does Charizard only get two megas? Why Does Gardevoir look like a bride? I can go on all day about the things wrong with megas but Ill stop

But you don't stop moaning lmao. What's wrong with a baby jumping out of a patch? What's wrong with a bride? Omg lol.

Quoteand I hope you can understand where I'm coming from.

Nope.

QuoteI just feel like the Pokemon designer and his coworkers are just fiddling with their pencils and drawing anything and calling it a Pokemon.

Your lack of appreciation of how much hard work is put into a video game is plain rude and ignorant.

QuoteHawlucha looks weird but somehow it made the cut rather than have a few tweaks before release. I feel like the Pokemon designers just sometimes draw anything but who cares, people will buy it anyways. The designers really need to step it up gen 7 because gen 6 was frankly a disappointment.

Guys a 12 year old doesn't like Hawlucha send it back for a refund!

Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 14, 2014, 06:52
@Spriter- No, I disagree with you. Im not a shiny hunter so I don't really care for it but I do know about it. Yes, we all do forgot some Pokemon now and then. But its not the end of the world if we did, and that's why our "common sense" helps us differentiate who's who or making educated guesses. You won't learn everybody Or everything right away, and I think the same goes when playing yugioh like xyz, synchros, and so on. I personally don't have any life or death situations if I forgot my opponents Pokemon types.

That's his point. You have so many that you forget about some. (LOL XATU, PARAS LOL)

Why do you need more if you don't care for the Ledians and Sewaddle's you already have?

Also thank god you found the enter key in the last post, I was starting to cry.

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I'm going to keep this brief, so I stay inoffensive. There was 1 year between Black2/White2 and X/Y. One. Go pop in B2/W2 for seven minutes and run around, move Pokemon around in PC boxes, and do a battle. That's all I want you to do. Done that? Pop X/Y back in. Do those same things. The difference is astounding.

Game Freak designed 721 3D models, which isn't counting any alternate forms or mega evolutions, which brings the number up a considerably high amount. This is why gen 6 had 69+3 Pokemon. Mega Evolutions are new Pokemon, both in functionality and appearance, they just don''t function like typical Pokemon. They had to put the same amount of effort into them.

I won't be responding to this topic again because I'm fairly sure I'll pull a Sappy and have a wall of text for you, which neither of us need, but I will say that just because you and your brother agree with each other on things, does not mean you're necessarily right, since I disagree with damn near every point you made.
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Ok, I won't have much to say here, because everyone else has said it already.

For one, there are awesome moves already. For example, there's Hidden Power, which varies on IVs and other stats. Judgement is Arceus exclusive and varies on what plate it holds. High Jump Kick makes you take major damage if you miss, the poster child of high risk, high reward.  However, I do think there are some moves that need to be made, like a will-o-wisp version that freezes, and awesome depends on the person.

Quote from: Sappy on August 14, 2014, 09:13
Lucario was an awful Mega. (Yeah, it's good competitively, but it just looks awful)

Fans like you need to appreciate what Game Freak does. They build a whole new game on a new piece of hardware and you assume the game's a failure on a lack of Pokemon (Cause 700+ isn't a big enough number already..) and an awesome battle mechanic. Stop moaning for just one second and appreciate the marvel that is X and Y. Look at the graphics. They look much better than you. Trainer customization has been the most wanted thing since everyone realised Charizard was bad up until Mega Evolutions. The only thing dire about X and Y is the inability to take off your hat, postgame and the story.

This, so much yes (minus the mega lucario part).

Rubin, Game Freak has made 721 pokemon, not counting alt. forms, just for people like you. Then people like you complain that there weren't enough new pokemon or the new ones sucked. They could've just ended the series any time they wanted to. Be thankful for what they've added. With the alt. forms included, i'd guess that there are about 800 pokemon total. That's a lot to design, tweak, approve and finalize. Then they go back and update the old ones with each new generation. Don't believe me?

Wigglytuff- Gen 5 Normal, Gen 6 Normal/Fairy

Blaziken- In Gen 4, the best fighting move it had was superpower. Gen 5 it got HJK. Did I mention Speed Boost?

Blastoise- In gen 6, it got aura sphere as an egg move. Did it in Gen 5? No

Scolipede- It got Speed Boost as the hidden ability this gen. Not in gen 5.

Roserade- Defense was boosted from 55 to 65 from gen 5 to gen 6.

A lot of pokemon from gen 4 to gen 5 gained Hidden abilities, then some changes in gen 6.

And so on and so forth. I'm not giving anymore, because i'd be typing all day.

Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 13, 2014, 08:25
I just feel like the Pokemon designer and his coworkers are just fiddling with their pencils and drawing anything and calling it a Pokemon.

Are you really that clueless? Like I said before, they have to design, tweak, edit, approve and tweak each pokemon they make. They don't just draw some blob and call it a pokemon. If that was so, there wouldn't be all these generations. If it was like that, would people buy it? I bet you couldn't make a pokemon that would pass the people who make these.

Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 13, 2014, 08:25
I feel like the Pokemon designers just sometimes draw anything but who cares, people will buy it anyways.

Same as above.


Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 14, 2014, 06:52
@sappy- and no, I'm not 12 you weirdo and that's probably just your hormones raging. Talk to your parents about that

And maybe you should talk to your parents about what manners are. (hypocritical statement I know)

Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 13, 2014, 08:25
Why does Charizard only get two megas?

Why, are 2 megas not enough for you? Mewtwo has 2 megas and you aren't complaining about that, now are you?

Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 13, 2014, 08:25
Why Does Gardevoir look like a bride?

You have something against brides?

Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 13, 2014, 08:25
gen 6 was frankly a disappointment.

Woah, hold it there. I know it's an opinion, but gen 6 brought so many new things, just for fans like you and me. 3D, megas, trainer customization. You say it's a disappointment?! They did all of this just for you and you're saying it all sucks? They didn't have to put all these new features in. Fairy types are new, do you think they suck? I don't for one. A type immune to dragons is something really cool and has produced some funny memes in the process. Did they have to make it in 3D? No! They did it for the fans. Everything they add is either for the fans or is something groundbreaking that is taking advantage of new technology.

Quote from: pokemonruben10 on August 13, 2014, 08:25
Believe me, I genuinely love Pokemon

I don't believe you. If you really do, you have a funny way of showing it.

I'm going to stop now before I have to type more, but I hope you get my point.
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^I just don't like the idea. I honestly have NEVER played a Smash Bros. game before, any of the Pokemon console games, OR LOZ: Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, or Skyward Sword because I never got the systems they were on. The ONLY reason I played Ocarina of Time was because of the 3DS. So yeah, I missed out on a LOT of great games because I'm on a budget. Plus I'm never home long enough to finish a console game in under a month so tne 3DS is the best system for me.
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